Mullen will get another year and probably has earned a chance to turn it around.

Hanmudog

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After having some time to get off the ledge I think Dan has done enough to warrant a chance to fix his mess.

However that being said, he should be asked to clean out his offensive staff completely and if he loses to USM next year he should be fired too on the spot with no questions asked.
 

jdbulldog

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People are literally out of their minds to talk about firing Coach M...

when we lose, those types come out of the woodwork demanding the head of our coach. Win and they say nothing. I am glad they aren't in charge....if they were, we would get a new coach every year at the very least and in some cases we might get two or three in one year even! Unfortunately there are people who love it when they can cause misery to another. Their happiness is measured by how often they can complain and by how much grief they can bring to another person. Sick. Over and out.
 

seb304

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Is that literally not what was said about Houston Nutt

3 straight bowls has become the equivalent to "back-to-back Cotton Bowls for the FIRST TIME IN FIFTY YEARS"
 

muddawgs

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Did you let our AD know?

After having some time to get off the ledge I think Dan has done enough to warrant a chance to fix his mess.

However that being said, he should be asked to clean out his offensive staff completely and if he loses to USM next year he should be fired too on the spot with no questions asked.

Good grief dude. how many bowls has Dan taken us too? How many had we gone to before that? I mean **** we are only 3 games into the season. You guys have lost your damn minds
 

Dawg1976

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If we get blown out by the bears in the egg and finish 4-8 or worse, will you say the same thing?
 

skb124

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You are an idiot. Houston Nutt was fired 2 years after going to back to back Cotton Bowls and enduring arguably one of the worst seasons in SEC history. Mullen has gone to a bowl the past three years.
 

skb124

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Yes. Mullen will not and should not get fired this year. If we go 4-8 this year he will still have an above .500 record at State. And you want to run him off? How dumb can you be?
 

seb304

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You are an idiot. Houston Nutt was fired 2 years after going to back to back Cotton Bowls and enduring arguably one of the worst seasons in SEC history. Mullen has gone to a bowl the past three years.

So far, the path looks pretty similar. 2009: Mullen beats Nutt's team to cap a 'disappointing' season for the Rebels that still ends in a good bowl. 2010: Ole Miss misses a bowl. 2011: The wheels come off. 2012: Freeze beats Mullen's team to cap a 'disappointing' season for the Bulldogs that still ends in a good bowl. 2013: State will, in all likelihood, miss a bowl. 2014: Let's see.

I'm not aboard the firing Mullen bandwagon full-on, but in the SEC we live in now, I don't know if there's a such thing as "earning another chance to fix it."
 

Dawg1976

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It's all about the trend. The trend is losing. Can't you see that? Based on your thinking I guess you would have let Stansbury coach forever since he had an overall winning record.
 

Hanmudog

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Good grief dude. how many bowls has Dan taken us too? How many had we gone to before that? I mean **** we are only 3 games into the season. You guys have lost your damn minds

Um exactly what did you disagree with in my post?

I said Dan has earned a chance to get his **** together because of what he has done so far at MSU.

Do you think we should keep him if he breaks USM's 24 game losing streak in our newly expanded stadium next season? I might punch him myself if that happens.
 

skb124

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We have lost to Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss (our rival at their place), Northwestern (people act like they were a bad team, they are obviously a good team), Oklahoma State, and Auburn. 5 of those 7 were ranked teams, 1 a rivalry game, and 1 game we actually should have won. Under what coach would you expect us to have different results? We are Mississippi State. We play in the most difficult division in the history of college football. People are upset with what Mullen has done, but he is having the second most successful run we have had since the 1940s. We will never be a top flight team. I'm very disappointed about last night, but at the same time I am a realist.

I wanted Stansbury to take the Clemson job 3 years before he actually was let go. Stansbury consistently underachieved, Mullen has not underachieved. There is a big difference in basketball and football where half your games in basketball are non-conference and 33% of your games are non-con in football. Also, the SEC is a little bit better in football than basketball. I'm sure you are smart enough to know the difference.
 

skb124

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So far? We are three games into the season. Most people before this season expected us to struggle. Also, most people expect us to be pretty dang good next year. So why is everyone calling for Dan's head for us actually struggling so far this season when this was expected? He lost us the game last night. I know that. But that does not warrant his firing. He has this year and next year. He has earned that. If next year is a bust, he will be gone. But our fans calling out our players and coaches is going to do far more damage to recruiting than losing a few games.
 

Hanmudog

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We have lost to Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss (our rival at their place), Northwestern (people act like they were a bad team, they are obviously a good team), Oklahoma State, and Auburn. 5 of those 7 were ranked teams, 1 a rivalry game, and 1 game we actually should have won. Under what coach would you expect us to have different results? We are Mississippi State. We play in the most difficult division in the history of college football. People are upset with what Mullen has done, but he is having the second most successful run we have had since the 1940s. We will never be a top flight team. I'm very disappointed about last night, but at the same time I am a realist.

I wanted Stansbury to take the Clemson job 3 years before he actually was let go. Stansbury consistently underachieved, Mullen has not underachieved. There is a big difference in basketball and football where half your games in basketball are non-conference and 33% of your games are non-con in football. Also, the SEC is a little bit better in football than basketball. I'm sure you are smart enough to know the difference.

I would call going from preseason number 15 to 7-6 an underachievement.

This season is not over but if Mullen does not wise up and quit doing the same crap over and over then it is goin to be over sooner rather than later.
 

TheBigDA

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We have lost to Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss (our rival at their place), Northwestern (people act like they were a bad team, they are obviously a good team), Oklahoma State, and Auburn. 5 of those 7 were ranked teams, 1 a rivalry game, and 1 game we actually should have won. Under what coach would you expect us to have different results? We are Mississippi State. We play in the most difficult division in the history of college football. People are upset with what Mullen has done, but he is having the second most successful run we have had since the 1940s. We will never be a top flight team. I'm very disappointed about last night, but at the same time I am a realist.

I wanted Stansbury to take the Clemson job 3 years before he actually was let go. Stansbury consistently underachieved, Mullen has not underachieved. There is a big difference in basketball and football where half your games in basketball are non-conference and 33% of your games are non-con in football. Also, the SEC is a little bit better in football than basketball. I'm sure you are smart enough to know the difference.

This line of thinking will forever keep us in the SEC basement. If our fans openly think, say, and admit this than we are getting what we deserve. Why is it so hard to expect more and have high aspirations at MSU? Ole Miss does and they were on par with us.
 

jakldawg

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if he loses to USM next year he should be fired too on the spot with no questions asked.

Considering USM will be working on something like a 26-game losing streak by that point, that would be a gotta-go situation.
 

skb124

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Because it is the truth. And if we don't understand that, we will never be pleased and football season will always be miserable. We will never surpass Alabama, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, or Georgia. We will generally be above Vandy, Kentucky, and Missouri. That leaves us, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Auburn, Tennessee, and Arkansas battling it out. Ole Miss and us will always be at a disadvantage strictly due to the population of our state. Ole Miss is not that great of a team. They have played three crap teams so far and beaten them. They are not about to jump up into the top tier of the SEC west. Our expectations should be to reach a bowl 3 out of every four years. Anything more is gravy. Our fanbase EXPECTS us to win the national championship in every sport every year. We get disappointed every year. Heck, we had fans pissed off after baseball season this year. WE FINISHED 2ND IN THE NATION.
 

Dawg1976

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There is a difference in the two. But let's take a look at Mullen's record. 30-24 overall and 13-20 in conference. Well over half his wins are out of conference even though only 33% of our games are out of conference. True, football in the SEC is played at a much higher level and is more difficult to win.

I just see a downward trend that I believe he will have a difficult time turning around. We can debate how much time he should be giving, but it really doesn't matter. If we are competitive the rest of the year, I'm sure Mullen will be giving another year. But I'm not so sure if we go 4-8 or worse and get blown out by OM.
 

drummerdawg

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He gets a pass this year. I hate we lost last night but that was basically next years team on the field and with them having this experience has me optimistic for the future. Yea we got some things to work on but I think it's all fixable. If Dan leaves then I think Staley wouldn't come next year and probably more recruits. This year will be tough but the future looks pretty good.
 

dannyripms

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That dude is a retard. We are msu and we will always be in the bottom? You are a idiot. No we deserve better and those excuses are stupid. You must think real low of yourself. I don't. I was very pleased with baseball. But Dan is on a downward spiral. You can't deny that. Everybody sees it. And I hate when people talk about ole miss. Always worrying about them. I hate to tell you but they are not using excuses, they are getting it done. They don't use the excuse that our states population is the problem, they have went out and got top recruits. They will skull drag us. And it's not the players fault, it's all on the coaches. Look at Perkins, remember when he shredded ole miss? Why isn't he explosive now? It's because of the play calling, not getting the most of his talent. Jeff Scott is getting it done, do you think he's better than Perkins? I don't. It's the coaches that are better.
 

skb124

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We can agree to disagree about how long he will be here. I just feel there is no way he is gone after this year unless he leaves on his own. But 13-20 in the SEC at Mississippi State is very respectable. Heck Jackie Sherill was 43-59-1, and the SEC was nowhere near what it is now when he was here. I don't know why, but people have way too high of expectations for us in football. Baseball, I understand the highest of expectations. Basketball, we should have higher expectations than in football. But Mullen is the reason for our high football expectations at this point, and now people are pissed at him.
 

skb124

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You are calling me a retard? This is your quote on another site yesterday, "That's what I've been saying. Offensive line not too good. I think we can beat them. Bama will lose to lsu, tam, and us. Count it" You seriously say we will beat Bama? And you call me retarded?
 

dannyripms

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Yeah, I did. Are coaches get their head out of their asses and get this team ready, yeah we can beat bama. Didn't Akron almost beat Michigan? Stranger things have happened. We have enough talent to play with anyone. It's all on the coaches. I bet you've been a mediocre loser your whole life. Maybe you should switch teams cause this fan base refuses to except excuses. With 3million we want competent coaches
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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We have lost to Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss (our rival at their place), Northwestern (people act like they were a bad team, they are obviously a good team), Oklahoma State, and Auburn. 5 of those 7 were ranked teams, 1 a rivalry game, and 1 game we actually should have won. Under what coach would you expect us to have different results? We are Mississippi State. We play in the most difficult division in the history of college football. People are upset with what Mullen has done, but he is having the second most successful run we have had since the 1940s. We will never be a top flight team. I'm very disappointed about last night, but at the same time I am a realist.

I wanted Stansbury to take the Clemson job 3 years before he actually was let go. Stansbury consistently underachieved, Mullen has not underachieved. There is a big difference in basketball and football where half your games in basketball are non-conference and 33% of your games are non-con in football. Also, the SEC is a little bit better in football than basketball. I'm sure you are smart enough to know the difference.

But, but, but, when Mullen was hired, he said we were going win "championships", and our goal was to get to Atlanta. You don't suppose he was being insincere, do you, since you state we will never be a "top flight team".