Mullen's first mistake was

[vicious]

not immediately getting Carroll on board. He was fast and had a decent arm. I thought he would have been a real good fit for his system. Lee is probably going to get hurt early in the season. There is no way this guy finishes a punishing SEC schedule and survives at 5'7 and 170 lbs dripping wet. Croom's recruiting made us a joke, but Mullen should made sure he kept Wesley. This QB situation is the joke of the SEC.

 

[vicious]

not immediately getting Carroll on board. He was fast and had a decent arm. I thought he would have been a real good fit for his system. Lee is probably going to get hurt early in the season. There is no way this guy finishes a punishing SEC schedule and survives at 5'7 and 170 lbs dripping wet. Croom's recruiting made us a joke, but Mullen should made sure he kept Wesley. This QB situation is the joke of the SEC.

 

[Toag Redloh]

Carroll should have stayed himself, dude must've had an ego problem. And Croom mismanaged the QB situation from the beginning, so evident in the Louisiana Tech game. Carroll seemed to have lost all confidence between '07 and '08, but he still shouldv'e played the entire Tech game.

Don't be retarded, it had nothing to do with Mullen.

 

[Agentdog]

This QB situation is the joke of the SEC.

I certainly agree with that. However, Carrol was not much bigger than Lee. He might have been 5'11" and 180 lbs. He was fast but he threw alot picks in costly situations towards the end of his career. It would not hurt to have him on the roster. However, I don't think it was that big of loss either.

 

[JohnDawg]

My little sister could throw the ball farther than he could with a running start and a crow hop. Carroll had a noodle for an arm and isn't much bigger than Tyson Lee.

 

[Toag Redloh]

I am a practical thinker, I go by the results on the field when it comes to sports. Carroll played great when he was put in with minimal coaching in '07, very confident, very few interceptions. When he ran the team, the team ran well. As the year progressed, with more coaching and more Croom input, he got worse. Finally he basically had to tell Croom what to do in the Liberty Bowl. Then '08 came with a year of Croom coaching, and with it, loss of all confidence and too much thinking and less playing.

Now I'm not advocating a player telling a coach what to do, it should never come to that. Croom could have picked this stuff up on his own. It's a damn shame it was all at our own expense.

**@* Croom. I would love to have Carroll on this team right now, it would make a HELL of a difference, if nothing else for confidence and a running threat at QB. Relf is not the guy. We have ONE quarterback right now.

 

[whatever.sixpack]

I think your first mistake was saying that Carroll was fast. The second would be when you said he had a decent arm.
Some of you guys were blinded by the success that we had in 07 and got the idea that Carroll was better than he actually is. This guy was never good enough to be recruited to a DI school

 

[Toag Redloh]

Look, the guy wasn't a world beater. A lot of you are going to see this season how much Croom was holding us back. I myself was blinded by hope for a long time. We have a little talent, Croom was not a terrible recruiter. But he's the worst pre-during-post gameday coach I have ever seen in my life. And everybody else's too, even if they won't admit it on national TV.</p>

 

[patdog]

I think your first mistake was saying that Carroll was fast. The second would be when you said he had a decent arm.
Some of you guys were blinded by the success that we had in 07 and got the idea that Carroll was better than he actually is. This guy was never good enough to be recruited to a DI school

If you'll go back and look at the stats, the only SEC QBs worse than Wes Carroll in 2007 were Schaeffer and Henig. People act like somehow Carroll "lost confidence" or "had a bad year" in 2008, but the fact is he sucked in 2007 and he sucked in 2008. That said, I wish we still had him because we definitely needed him for depth in 2009. Unless Tyler Russell can play effectively as a true freshman (I think he really needs to redshirt if possible), we'll have to play some with a QB worse than Carroll.

 

[dogfan96]

Dude barely completed 50% of his passes last year with a 9/7 TD to INT ratio. Then he burst on the scene this year with a HORRIBLE LaTech game. I mean he was ok for a freshman but let's not make it out to be more than it really was.

 

[dogfan96]

Wes Carroll is solidly below average on his best day. I've never seen a guy one-hop and airmail so many passes. Tyson Lee is a MUCH better player than Carroll.</p>

 

[Todd4State]

think he lokos good because he was better than Henig. I think that's what he is kind of being compared to, and maybe Tyson Lee to an extent.

Tyler Russell is going to look like Peyton Manning in a year or so to all of us in about a year or so.

 

[Toag Redloh]

he even had a little streak without an interception. And most of that horrible game is on Crooms. I'm telling you, Crooms was horrible on Saturday and it will show this year. Most times you can say players win or lose games for the most part. But I firmly believe Crooms lost a lot of our games for us.

Too bad that flashy spread option was too uncharacter for Crooms.</p>

 

[dogfan96]

Croom didn't throw those footballs.. Carroll did. 52% is 52% any way you slice it and 9/7 is 9/7. If you look at that guy and think SEC QB (or anywhere near), you're high.

 

[Emanonion]

I cant believe no OM fan made a title that said "Taking the MSU job".

 

[vicious]

The guy would have been a decent QB under Mullen. I think he would have done well. To have a 5'7" QB starting in the SEC is just beyond me! The majority of schools in the SWAC have QB's that could compete to be the starting QB. Thanks Croom!

 

[patdog]

And 2 of the better QBs in the SWAC in recent years couldn't even get on the field at MSU.</p>

 

[vicious]

nm

 

[patdog]

With Carroll's rag arm, nobody is ever going to turn him into a good passer.</p>

 

[whatever.sixpack]

The fact that you guys can't see how weak his arm was is what's beyond me. And fast? 4.5? Are you serious? Pegues ran a 4.6 at the combine and Carroll runs a 4.5?
Lee may be smaller, but he's faster and quicker, not to mention he has a plus arm, whereas Carroll had one of the worst arms the SEC has ever seen. But once you got past that, he wasn't accurate.
He sure did excel at that dump off in the flat to the fullback though... 07 baby!!!

 

[fishwater99]

not immediately getting Carroll on board. He was fast and had a decent arm. I thought he would have been a real good fit for his system. Lee is probably going to get hurt early in the season. There is no way this guy finishes a punishing SEC schedule and survives at 5'7 and 170 lbs dripping wet. Croom's recruiting made us a joke, but Mullen should made sure he kept Wesley. This QB situation is the joke of the SEC.

WOWuku

 

[rebfan04]

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[DISTRICT DOG]

why do some people think that Carrol was a good QB? I think a lot of people on this board had the wool pulled over their eyes after watching the worst QB to ever play D-1 football. Its not that Carrol was good it was the fact that he better than the STD known as Henig. Ive never heard of a QB catching more Boo's from his own fans than from the opposing fans. Everyone was so happy that he was gone that they didnt care if Hellen Keller was out there throwing the ball. Carrol is where he should be...in a lower level football program, throwing to lower level recievers, with a lower level head coach. Hell no wonder he was our QB when Crooms was here, it was a perfect 17ing fit for him.

 

[Dinkle]

left before we hired mullen