My not so important thoughts

[Ewooc]

Well, We as Nebraska fan are pretty well expecting this type of stuff as a team. Cant win the games when it matters. My thoughts are unchanged of Riley. I think he is an average coach that has always produced an average team. I do not believe he will take Nebraska back to greatness. History just doesn't say it.

That being said, I will wait a bit to start proclaiming from the rafters how Riley needs to go. lol

Positives:
I was impressed with Armstrong. Granted he has work to do, but starting better than last year.
I liked our team fight, they seemed to stick together and keep playing as a team vs an I mentality with Bo.
I think we have a very talented team with great athletes. If Riley can get things all synced up and running. We may have potential. Didn't Ohio St lose their first game last year?
This was a good BYU team with a Heisman potential QB, with excellent and very tall receivers. We are not the team of the 90s no game should be considered automatic. We played them well considering.
Coaches actually made adjustments at half and it seemed to help. We haven't seen that in the last 8 years. So that was nice to see.
Most impressive was the improved tackling. Especially in the open field. Bos team was horrible at that.

Negative
Way to many penalties, but that is to be expected first game and many young players.
Some iffy play calls towards the end of game. Shouldn't see with this seasoned coaching staff.
While Armstrong has improved, he still needs to be more consistent and make better decisions. I still do not believe he will be the QB that helps turn this around.
Doesn't look good losing your first game as a head coach, while also breaking the longest opening home winning streak. He honestly didn't seem to upset either. lol Which I guess can be good, doesn't dwell on the things, keeps moving forward.
The D as a whole gave up way to many yards passing. We will play many good QBs this year and teams that are much better than BYU. If we cant get better at stopping the short passes we will get picked apart.

I still think we will be lucky to get a winning season. Besides next weeks game, southern miss, and maybe ill, and purdue. The rest could easily go either way. That would get ugly really fast.

 

[Truehuskerfan]

Not so important thoughts is being too nice. Minus your opening and closing paragraphs, I could actually take your post seriously. With them, it is garbage. Your positives and negatives simply do not add up to your ridiculously negative viewpoint of the rest of the season.Face it. You didn't like the Riley hire, and you are hoping upon hope that we are as bad as you predict, just so you can prance around and brag about how you were right. Just for once, I'd like one of you people to just admit it.

 

[Tarheelhusker]

I like the Riley hire. The man has Pelini's toxic wasteland to clean up.
I like the fact Riley played freshmen, disciplined players, coaching players up, making adjustments, didn't fold up, and is not a sideline time bomb. We are going to get better and make our return to the top.

Only delusional "fans" or pure haters would expect Riley to turn the ship around in one season.

The "Hail Mary" is now playing over BYU loudspeakers. Mormons converting to Catholicism!

 

[Ewooc]

Not so important thoughts is being too nice. Minus your opening and closing paragraphs, I could actually take your post seriously. With them, it is garbage. Your positives and negatives simply do not add up to your ridiculously negative viewpoint of the rest of the season.Face it. You didn't like the Riley hire, and you are hoping upon hope that we are as bad as you predict, just so you can prance around and brag about how you were right. Just for once, I'd like one of you people to just admit it.

Wow Seriously? That is the most idiotic reply I have ever seen. "and you are hoping upon hope that we are as bad as you predict". REALLY? That is a serious comment. Grow up. What true Nebraska fan or any fan for that matter hope against hope as you say for their team to fail. That is not really a fan.
I Disliked Bo, a lot. Go dig through my past posts. HE NEEDED OUT. I am not against Riley, and sure as hell am not sitting here cheering for him to lose. Still can't believe your comment. So dumb. lol I am and will give him his due time as I did with Solich and Cally and Bo. Proof is in the pudding. I do think it is unrealistic for him or really any coach to come in and expect to have an undefeated season. Like you probably do. Also if you didn't find anything negative about this game, you obviously don't understand the game and should start following bowling or something.
Yes I have my doubts on Riley, again if you haven't followed his past, see bowling comment. Just because I have my doubts doesn't not mean I am rooting against him or this team. Everything isn't always sunshine and rainbows. Surprisingly this game actually gave me a bit more hope. I saw things from this team we never saw in Bos in 8 years. Just as 1 game should not condemn him. The results should also not hold him on high.

 

[Truehuskerfan]

Wow Seriously? That is the most idiotic reply I have ever seen. "and you are hoping upon hope that we are as bad as you predict". REALLY? That is a serious comment. Grow up. What true Nebraska fan or any fan for that matter hope against hope as you say for their team to fail. That is not really a fan.
I Disliked Bo, a lot. Go dig through my past posts. HE NEEDED OUT. I am not against Riley, and sure as hell am not sitting here cheering for him to lose. Still can't believe your comment. So dumb. lol I am and will give him his due time as I did with Solich and Cally and Bo. Proof is in the pudding. I do think it is unrealistic for him or really any coach to come in and expect to have an undefeated season. Like you probably do. Also if you didn't find anything negative about this game, you obviously don't understand the game and should start following bowling or something.
Yes I have my doubts on Riley, again if you haven't followed his past, see bowling comment. Just because I have my doubts doesn't not mean I am rooting against him or this team. Everything isn't always sunshine and rainbows. Surprisingly this game actually gave me a bit more hope. I saw things from this team we never saw in Bos in 8 years. Just as 1 game should not condemn him. The results should also not hold him on high.

First of all, if that was the dumbest post on this board, then you haven't been reading this board long. Secondly, I never accused you of being a Boliever. If you disliked Bo and wanted him out, great. I never read anything into your post about whether you liked Bo or not and didn't even address that. I just said you clearly didn't like the Riley hire.
Thirdly, if you found the positives that you found and it gave you more hope and you still think we only will be lucky to have a winning season, then I'd hate to see what your prediction for the season was before this game. If I ignored every positive and focused only on the negatives I couldn't have anywhere near as negative an outlook on the rest of the season as you have. That's the reason why I seriously questioned why you would have such a negative outlook. I thought your positives and negatives were fair, and then you ruined it by saying you still see such a horrible season. With the positives you noticed(and even considering the negatives you noticed) I cannot reconcile that and your overall negative outlook on the season. To me, it would be just as stupid(but not any moreso) for somebody to take the positives and negatives you gave and then say you saw us running the table the rest of the way and making the playoff. That seems overly positive to me. Your outlook seems overly negative to me and it seems more based in wanting to confirm your opinions on the Riley hire than in any reality.

 

[Ewooc]

First of all, if that was the dumbest post on this board, then you haven't been reading this board long. Secondly, I never accused you of being a Boliever. If you disliked Bo and wanted him out, great. I never read anything into your post about whether you liked Bo or not and didn't even address that. I just said you clearly didn't like the Riley hire.
Thirdly, if you found the positives that you found and it gave you more hope and you still think we only will be lucky to have a winning season, then I'd hate to see what your prediction for the season was before this game. If I ignored every positive and focused only on the negatives I couldn't have anywhere near as negative an outlook on the rest of the season as you have. That's the reason why I seriously questioned why you would have such a negative outlook. I thought your positives and negatives were fair, and then you ruined it by saying you still see such a horrible season. With the positives you noticed(and even considering the negatives you noticed) I cannot reconcile that and your overall negative outlook on the season. To me, it would be just as stupid(but not any moreso) for somebody to take the positives and negatives you gave and then say you saw us running the table the rest of the way and making the playoff. That seems overly positive to me. Your outlook seems overly negative to me and it seems more based in wanting to confirm your opinions on the Riley hire than in any reality.

Fair assumption, I see your point. Here is my thoughts and why I am still predicting a lack luster season. Just season, not saying his career as of yet. Again, I saw enough good to have more hope long term
1. Statistically speaking year 1 coach almost always perform worse than the guy they replaced. Especially if that record is above .500 So right off the bat odds or down of a 9 win season.
2. Riley is switch offensive and defensive schemes. Schemes that certain players were recruited to specifically play in. So it will take time for him to get the type of guys in to fit his style of play. The current players must learn that new system. That again is tough and can contribute to close losses that may have otherwise been wins.
3. While we play some weaker team, there are few push over/ automatic W games that I see. Like I said besides probably South Bama, Souther Miss, Ill, and Purdue. This is Division 1. IF you don't bring your A game every week anyone can beat anyone now days. With new coaches comes learning and growing pains. I don't care if it Riley or Harbaugh (who even lost). That again may contribute to some losses that may have been wins.
4. Only based off of Rileys history he has a tendency to lose 1-2 games extra a year that he probably shouldn't have. Is that because of coaching or poor players, we won't know for sure. History is all we have to go on right now with him.

Let say nothing changed vs Riley and take a look at our schedule
I see BO RILEY
BYU- LOSS LOSS
South Bama-WIN WIN
Miami LOSS LOSS
Southern MISS WIN WIN
Ill WIN WIN
Wisc LOSS LOSS
Minn LOSS LOSS
Northwest WIN 50/50
Purdue WIN WIN
Rut WIN 50/50
Iowa WIN 50/50


So if we take 9-3 as the average. Give 1 loss just because he is a new coach. Give 1 loss because of new scheme, give 1 loss based on history right away we would be an extra 2-3 losses. So if predicting things this year, no coach change at 8-4. Now factor in 2 or 3 more losses just based off "newness" and growing pains,that could realistically put us at 6-6 or 5-7. Now yes some of the those "newness" losses could be the same as the already factored losses. Also some of those assumed wins under Bo could be losses too.

All in all, it really is hard to know for sure, Just my opinions and my analytical mind. lol If Riley can turn things around quicker and players start catching on to things faster that could throw my whole though out the window. My wife says I am a pessimist. Now you see why. lol

 

[Truehuskerfan]

Fair points, but I still think you are too pessimistic on the overall outcome for the season. But at least you admit you're pessimistic-that's a lot more than most people do. At least admitting that makes it clear you aren't wanting the team to lose like it seemed based on your original post.
I really have no idea what happens the rest of the season. Of course, nobody really does. My viewpoint always is I think we can win every game until I've been shown that we can't. If you press me to actually make a prediction on how we will do the rest of the season, of course I don't think we will win every game. But I do really think we will have a good season-at least enough to make a decent bowl game. I expected a close win today by about a TD. We were one fluke play and a couple of shanked FGs from being there.

 

[timnsun]

Not so important thoughts is being too nice. Minus your opening and closing paragraphs, I could actually take your post seriously. With them, it is garbage. Your positives and negatives simply do not add up to your ridiculously negative viewpoint of the rest of the season.Face it. You didn't like the Riley hire, and you are hoping upon hope that we are as bad as you predict, just so you can prance around and brag about how you were right. Just for once, I'd like one of you people to just admit it.

Truehuskerfan, you are on fire tonight taking on those who can't stop tripping over themselves to call Riley a failed hire. Keep it up!

EDIT: I should have read the rest of the thread before posting... Husker2612, at least you explained your stance thoroughly. I can respect that.

 

[Ewooc]

Fair points, but I still think you are too pessimistic on the overall outcome for the season. But at least you admit you're pessimistic-that's a lot more than most people do. At least admitting that makes it clear you aren't wanting the team to lose like it seemed based on your original post.
I really have no idea what happens the rest of the season. Of course, nobody really does. My viewpoint always is I think we can win every game until I've been shown that we can't. If you press me to actually make a prediction on how we will do the rest of the season, of course I don't think we will win every game. But I do really think we will have a good season-at least enough to make a decent bowl game. I expected a close win today by about a TD. We were one fluke play and a couple of shanked FGs from being there.

Agreed, The last 20 years of Nebraska football have made me this way. lol Keep expectations low, less disappointment. Pessimistic side of me sees 6-6
Huskerfan side sees 10-2
Realistic side sees 8-4

I have no problem people calling me out and disagree with me. As long as it is logically based and respectful. Thanks for doing so.