YOURE A FVCKING FOOL! Ridicule is not ok....bullying is not ok.....has nothing to do with your religion.
My right-wing friends, why no outrage over this teacher?
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THEIR WORK! I make no mention of their sexuality, but would never shy away from homosexual contributions.
You think that Plato doesn't have a place, DH Lawerence?
You don't think Christian kids minding their own business and "Praying" together either before having lunch or after playing sports don't feel "ridiculed" when other Leftist parents complain they are being "disruptive"?
Why are you not defending them against being singled out for being "abnormal" as quickly as you jump to the defense of gay kids?
Are they prevented from flaunting their homosexuality in front of those Christian kids?
No!
You defend and promote them as "perfectly normal" and to Hell with whether those Christian kids are offended by their openly defiant displays of sexual immorality.
But if those Christian kids attempted to Pray for those poor confused lost souls in the eyes of Almighty God, you'd shut them down as dangerous "subversives" to our "diversity".
Call me names all you want, but you must have a hard time looking simultaneously at both sides of your arrogant two faces.
If my mind is closed on this topic boomer my Man, yours is hermetically sealed.
Sure they did. But they weren't (aren't) being promoted as shining examples of homosexual contributions.
I thought that's what you were arguing that you wouldn't hesitate to point out about them if it helped your students better understand their contributions?
Maybe I missed that you said their sexuality doesn't matter.
If that's so why are we discussing it boom?
So tell me boomer my Man, how does one determine that their contributions were or were not "homosexual" unless you mention if they are or aren't?
I'm confused, or you are.
Because you said I should teach my students that homosexuality is seen as deviant and a sin by Christianity. I said I do not bring up anything about homosexuality in my classroom, but do not exclude work by homosexuals (without ever mentioning that they are homosexuals). I also said the only things no I would say regarding homosexuality is stopping someone from ridiculing a homosexual student, and saying that ridicule was wrong.
You get nasty and question my ability as an educator because I don't promote your faith in the classroom. You are all about teachers not indoctrinating students to secular viewpoints, but totally ok with indoctrination if it's Christian viewpoints being pushed. It shows your bias and the danger of your religious fervor. To be honest, to me it's unAmerican, but FOR SURE it's not legitimate education. I hope you pony up the dough for your kids to attention Christian schools.
So how "open" is your mind boom to the idea that homosexuality is a deviant Lifestyle that's immoral and a Sin against Almighty God?
Here see for yourself...or at least test your "openness" to these specific references in the Bible against it:
The Bible generally teaches against any sexual relations except between husband and wife. The Bible specifically mentions sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex as among the forbidden acts. Homosexual acts are mentioned in seven Bible passages: 1
- 2 refer to rape (Genesis 19:5, Judges 19:22)
- 3 refer to intercourse between men (Leviticus 18:21-22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:27)
- 1 refers to intercourse between women (Romans 1:26)
- 1 refers to prostitution and possibly pederasty (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
- 1 is general in nature (1 Timothy 1:8-10)
So how would they know unless you mention "homosexuality"?
What difference would it make if they were or were not unless you specifically mentioned that they were?
In which case, why mention it? If you don't mention that, what's the point of your example here?
You asked for killings inspired by Christianity or Christian groups and I provided a couple of examples.
If you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question.
Really?
Here are just a few scriptures from the Bible about stoning each other to death.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Leviticus 24:16
Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Exodus 31:15
Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death.
Numbers 15:32-36
While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron and to all the congregation. They put him in custody, because it had not been made clear what should be done to him. And the Lord said to Moses, “The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” And all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, as the Lord commanded Moses.
Leviticus 20:27
“A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
“If there is a betrothed virgin, and a man meets her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbor's wife. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.
Deuteronomy 13:10
You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
Exodus 19:13
No hand shall touch him, but he shall be stoned or shot; whether beast or man, he shall not live.’ When the trumpet sounds a long blast, they shall come up to the mountain.”
Exodus 21:28
“When an ox gores a man or a woman to death, the ox shall be stoned, and its flesh shall not be eaten, but the owner of the ox shall not be liable.
Deuteronomy 22:13-21
“If any man takes a wife and goes in to her and then hates her and accuses her of misconduct and brings a bad name upon her, saying, ‘I took this woman, and when I came near her, I did not find in her evidence of virginity,’ then the father of the young woman and her mother shall take and bring out the evidence of her virginity to the elders of the city in the gate. And the father of the young woman shall say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter to this man to marry, and he hates her; and behold, he has accused her of misconduct, saying, “I did not find in your daughter evidence of virginity.” And yet this is the evidence of my daughter's virginity.’ And they shall spread the cloak before the elders of the city. ...
Leviticus 20:2
“Say to the people of Israel, Any one of the people of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech shall surely be put to death. The people of the land shall stone him with stones.
I'm open to you taking your closed minded view of the world and praising it daily, teaching it to your children, whipping your like-minded friends into a lather discussing it, and feeling superior to others by abiding by it......but I'm not open to it being in a classroom, or discussed on the floor of the Senate without someone arguing against it. There are many on here as Christian as you, but more American as they seek not to destroy the liberty of other Americans to pursue happiness as they feel is right for themselves. You should learn from them.
My kids don't attend school boomer...they're all grown. When we educated them we taught them from home using a Christian based curriculum that explained Creation and Sin.
Public school kids have no such advantage.
Maybe that's why the vast majority of them educated by the Government are functionally illiterate.
If you aren't stoning people then you aren't following Christian doctrine from the Bible.
Rebellious sons being stoned to death in the streets.
Blasphemers being stoned to death by the congregation.
Working on the sabbath being put to death.
This stuff is in the Bible too.
Your 'list' was a joke...and it can't come close to comparing the amount of killing that is happening now that is Islam inspired.
You are the professed pontificate of diversity boomer except when it comes to Christians which is what initially got us into this scrum.
So I point out how really phony you are on one issue regarding "diversity" when it comes to Christians, and now I'm some sort of Ayatollah demanding strict adherence to my Christian teachings and none other?
Yet, you have no tolerance for what I believe or even what I say!
"I'm not open to it being in a classroom, or discussed on the floor of the Senate without someone arguing against it' (you said that boomer).
Only you are "open minded" though. I'm closed minded, yet I listen to and respect that you don't agree with me.
So in the court of public opinion, who would you say really holds the "close minded" position in this disagreement between us?
My list is honest and accurate ... you should try that sometime.
Since you didn't like the answer, you change the parameters of the question so you don't have to accept it. I prefer to look at things honestly and objectively. But that's just me ... do what makes you happy
You are just absolutely pitiful. I've lost an enormous amount of respect for you today. You are no better than those that want to form a liberal nation out of California. Maybe the South will rise again as the Christian States of America, and the giant circle jerk your longing for will finally exist. Until then, I'll be a true American educator in the classroom.
Congratulations on your knowledge of the Bible. You know more about it than many of us sinners.
Your list is short...especially compared to the number of Islam inspired killings and that is the point. I never said there weren't killings inspired by other religions...but it cannot be denied that killings inspired by Islam far out number anyone else in this day and age.
boomer you get indignant over someone else's opinion. I state that Public schools by and large are failures educating kids.
If you want to argue that OK, then let's have at it. But spare me the self righteous pontification because I've "offended" your sensibilities.
I didn't say YOU were a bad teacher boomer, I said Public education by and large is a failure. There are of course exceptions, but very few where I live, and in most places of this country Public schools are inferior to Private schools doing the same job...educating students.
Again, if you want to argue against my opinion, fine. But knock off all of the self described "disappointment" that I have an opinion of Public education in this country that runs counter to your perceptions of it's over all quality.
The audience is if you're an Israeli from BC. I don't fit that characterization.
No no no....you said public schools fail because they don't teach Christian ideology like you did. And that.....is just ridiculously foolish, self-righteous, and wrong. Stand by your ********.
I answered the question you asked ... again I point out that you change the parameters of the question after getting the answer.
But it is in the Bible ... and there are people that read the bible, particularly the man laying with mankind as he lie with a woman parts ... and they go out and kill people over it. Or they kill people over abortions or whatever because of the message they think they are getting from the bible.
Is it a majority? No ... but it's there, and people take action on it.
No, but they are inspired by the Christian holy book.
Just like these Islamic loons are inspired by the Muslim holy book.
People point out that their religion teaches them to do this, but there are millions upon millions of Muslims that say it doesn't, that decry the actions of these loons, and that say that this isn't true Islam.
Exactly as you say this is with Christianity, but you don't extend that same logic or reasoning to their religion.
Yet I said that I bring Christian perspectives into the classroom didn't I? But I do not go into the righteousness of ANY religious ideology. I only use a balance of religious perspectives to illustrate attitudes that influence our history or civics. It's impossible to not teach our history without bringing Christians ideology into the discussion. However that discussion NEVER should go into the debate on if the ideology is correct, needed, more important than other ideologies, or if it's righteous or not.
The crusades for example, need to been understood through examining Christian perspectives at the time, but also through examining Arab perspectives as well. Making a determination of which perspective was "right" or "righteous to God" is not my place. Diversity is learning different perspectives. I teach critical thinking, and allow my students to draw their own conclusions.
I find it strangely ironic how the person insisting that you aren't teaching but indoctrinating ... is also insisting that you shouldn't teach, but should rather indoctrinate.
Another Christian hypocrite? Say it aint so Joe, say it aint so
Incorrect in a big way, which is ok.
That is why a number, between 5% and 25%, are radicalized. Their book contains open ended commands. Moderates do not teach them as such. Many imams in poor Muslim countries do teach them as such.
The Christian percentage I guarantee does not even break .05%, which contain more mental issues than ideology.
You guys keep maintaining that it doesn't happen, and then when it is pointed out that it does, you start talking volume and percentages ... and then a month down the road the same discussion comes up and you keep maintaining it doesn't happen, after having already admitted before that it does but in a small percentage.
Where did I make a comparison on volume or percentages?
I'm a stay at home dad. My girls are sick, we are lying around watching cartoons, this is my escape. I taught before staying at home, and will teach again when my youngest starts school.