My Take From The Game Today
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I'm so glad I have Shelby on IGNORE.
Ha ha Mr IQ guy. You care about covering the spread. Is there a Top 25 Against the Spread poll I should pay attention to ? Because alI I care about is being competitive in the conference. Silly me I guess.
Just stop posting because it is comical . You cannot answer any of the simple questions I asked you ? Why is that simpleton ? Just take your posting elsewhere. You are embarrassment to our loyal fan base that has been through hell . You add zero to any thread. Put the keyboard down and go get some milk and cookies. You will probably feel better.
You guys are too hard on Gavin. His moving around the pocket to escape sacks is incredible. With a pocket passer we’d have 5 sacks a game or worse. So under-appreciated.
Puzzled by no adjustment to stop QB run up the middle. I know our base defense is now 2 linebackers but maybe going to 3/4 would have been the move (or putting someone following the QB).
Please just ignore the douchebag, and we will see less of his garbage.
GW played the game he was asked to and got it done. His recognition of coverages improved.
Well that is complicated. We technically run a 3-3 even front with a walk up edge rushing hybrid player who has rush/contain/RB responsibilities. We started to drop Flip down into the box but that resulted in us getting beat vertically a bit.
Our interior DL was getting double teamed and our rush players were up field. This created a gap. The problem we were having was that they did not leave the RB into pass block but delayed him into the flat. It essentially became a QB RPO with a flat pass to the HB that hit a few times for both the run and the pass. It was probably something we had to try and fix during the game, as they did not show this in their first two games.
Perfect list of take-aways from that game.
I see the comments about Schiano being too conservative. I usually place such comments in the realm of, well, we don't know how many games he wins with that, but we do all suspect we know games where we lost or nearly lost because of that.
This is now, IMHO, two games in a row where GS mismanaged the clock while having the ball at the end of the first half. Yesterday's game was the worse of the two despite getting the perfect end-result.. scoring a TD with almost no time on the clock. GS had 3 timeouts in his pocket.. had the ball at midfield to start with about 2 minutes left and worked the clock down to 23 seconds with keeping all three timeouts and seeming having little chance to score save for a possible FG attempt.
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I agree with this as Schiano was never a good clock management guy. Maybe he was not used to having 3 timeouts left with less than 2 minutes. He usually burns a timeout or two much earlier in a game.
Watching the game again today, just want to give shoutout to Chris Dremel. He doesn’t get much mention, but quietly played a great game. Sneaky receiver that is able to get free and become an outlet for Gavin. Watching his TD, he plays heads up and aware where he is. Great swivel to get TD inspite of Line Judge who made bad spots all game long
Count your blessings! Rutgers is undefeated! Rutgers has a better record than Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Florida, and Tennessee.
THAT we are undefeated is welcome news and doesn’t mean we are going to stay that way BUT, that football bounces funny every day. Anything and everything is possible is college football. Just one of many reasons i love it so much.
On to the next victim!
THAT we are undefeated is welcome news and doesn’t mean we are going to stay that way BUT, that football bounces funny every day. Anything and everything is possible is college football. Just one of many reasons i love it so much.
On to the next victim!
Yes.. major concern why this was not addressed after multiple successful runs on the same played call by VT. QB delayed run straight up the middle.
Usually that was because the the former OC couldn't get the G** d*** play in on time!!!!
I don’t know. I thought everything we did in that last drive of the first half was pretty good. We didn’t want to give VTech any time to make a play on offense again for another series. I understand your point - if that review concluded we didn’t get into the end zone then we are at risk of not having time to run another play for a TD and still guarantee time for a FG snap. But the way we were moving the ball there, I don’t think you want to disrupt game flow. In terms of leaving more time before that when VTech had the ball - that’s just not how Schiano wants to play. His top priority was making sure our possession would be the last one of the half.
It’s hard to criticize with the way the half ended.
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Was one of the things that used to drive me crazy. RU calling a time out or taking a delay of game penalty after something like a quarter end, kick off recieve etc. We didn't know WTF we wanted to do after a game stop or a commercial break? I used to go nuts and people looked at me like I was crazy.
I to was surprised we didn’t make adjustments to either add a LB or bring a nickel guy up closer. I thought our corners should have played closer as well. He either ran or threw a 1-8 yard pass ( a la Vedral) and could not throw deep (he threw 1 nice deep ball all game - luckily that was dropped). I assumed in the second half we would slow their run down and bay some of those short balls away but we didn’t.
It’s a good point. To me, the biggest criticism of Gavin’s game to focus on right now is his trouble taking the zip off the ball for the short routes. His lower completion percentage reflects us not designing many short route plays because of this. Short routes should be lower risk but if he can’t tone down the line drives the risk of tips goes up a ton in close. This seems like something that’s fixable. It seems like Kirk chose to focus on decision making first (learning to throw ball away when in trouble, learning to take off and run) and not dump too much on Gavin all at once which has worked ok so far. I get this. If we had him thinking about when to adjust his throw too some of the game speed issues from last year could creep up.
We saw the issue on the shorter line drive throw to Kyle though. Eventually we will have to mix in more shorts but we do have another 2 weeks to work on that following Michigan.
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And I thought he had cracked a rib... In the least game he got crushed on a play.. came back and dove for a ball on teh sideline exposing his body to more abuse... now that's a football player.
Chris Dremel one very necessary piece in taking the pass game up a notch. We do have some talent at WR. As mentioned Gavin needs to understand …less is not always a bad thing especially on pops over the middle.
In general I agree with you. I would have called a timeout earlier rather than running down into the 30s. I'd rather leave 20 seconds on the clock vs losing a chance to score. In the end it worked out.
That might explain why we don't see screen passes.
You know.. in that video of all his throws from the Temple game I thought I noticed something interesting. I had (mildly) criticized him for not stepping into his throws.. which, I think, would make him more accurate on longer routes.. more consistently accurate. What I thought I saw in that video was that his footwork is consistent, if not ideal. GW seems to pivot on his left foot and kicks his right heel up.. almost like a 2nd basement trying to turn a double play. Very open stance to his throws.. which needs "width".. which is hard to come by in a collapsing pocket.
Now, I appreciate the consistent motion.. that helps.. but perhaps that is why he cannot control "touch" on his throws.. his motion doesn't allow for it.
BEAT LSU.. brian kelly cannot lose enough for me.
Thanks.
First time attending with my kids and I feel like I saw about 7 plays total.
Between missing 2nd quarter to line up for halftime, getting back and then immediately going to get ice cream, then leaving at end of 3rd quarter - recap is much appreciated.
I’m not sure what it is but this is what stands out to me most as his issue to work on. It’s bizarre because most QBs (even bad ones) complete thoss short routes at a high rate even if the laterals sometimes go for short (or negative yardage). For some teams those “throws” are an extension of the run game. We haven’t attempted them much period.
3 thoughts. Even GW’s misses are better. We are ran what looked like a corner flat vs cover two. He hit this in an early game and while it was incomplete it was off by two inches and right on time into a tight window. GW starts moving back on pass plays right at the snap. Not sure if D’s can key on this but would be awesome to add a wrinkle (draw/delay) that leverages this “tell”. Johny is REALLY blocking well. Two of the TD runs he was the key block. On one he gets into two guys (second was part of combo).
As poorly as the Hogs played against BYU last week, I imagine LSU is going to take out their frustrations against Arkansas this week. Plus it is a night game at LSU. Their fans will be drunk and obnoxious; but I repeat myself. LSU 35, Arkansas 10.
Yes tips his play but running much better and knowing when to throw the ball away. He was 7-16 for 46 yds hard to say he’s getting better when he doesn’t read Defenses well, and ALWAYS throws to his first look. He’s pre determined with the ball and route before the snap. The game does look like it’s slowed down a little but any success will come from learning route progressions and throwing options.
Absolutely very misleading and why? We run the ball the same as a team like Iowa does. There is a reason for that and passing game will improve as the WR group improves.Our D and its potential needs to continue being stout. Gavin has most likely been told to get the ball out quickly. I can go back to Rutgers quarterbacks since the late 70’s … this same narrative has been used like forever and it’s usually fans who think they’re coaches. The player is doing what he is asked to do.He reads defenses fine for a very young QB in a rebuilding system. This week will be his greatest test simply because we can’t anticipate running for 200+ yards.
Let’s wait and see because 1st read throws moving into quality opponents will be int’s.
We all seem to forget even after last season’s minimal time at the position he is basically a first year starter. Athletically he gives us a chance simply because he can run. He needs to be aggressive yet stay controlled when toting the ball. Sliding headfirst is not suggested but we understand he wants to create plays. Kirk has been known as a good mentor of quarterback play.