My take on Stans

slickdawg

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I posted this on 247 and I thought I'd share it with the SPS crew.

I took a friend (USM fan) to go meet with and hear Stans at and
alumni function at the top of the Hancock Bank building in Gulfport,
2000 or 2001 I guess it was.
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Rick's love, energy, and sincere passion for State was second to
none at that time. We stopped and talked with Stans for a good 10
minutes afterwards, he was simply great that night. As we drove home,
my friend talked constantly about how awesome Stans talk was, and he
wished he could suit up and play for him. Rick's comment that "I'm not
going to miss recruiting a player we want in the state of Mississippi",
he all but said he completely owned the state. He was right too.
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In the last 4-5 years, I've seen that energy and passion fade
away. While personally, he's a great guy and I'll never question his
dedication to State, it was becoming more and more obvious that he was
losing his edge. We've started losing some solid recruits to other SEC
or national programs. The most painful part has been the meltdowns,
especially in March. We have had bubbleitis for the last six years.
It took some purely amazing runs in the SECT to get to the NCAA's. It's
become clear that we have had some major attitude problems within the
program. Sidney is not alone in this category.
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I feel for head coaches in the SEC - it's one of the most
demanding jobs in coaching for any sport. It takes an ungodly toll on
you, and chews you up. The wives of the coaches have to be incredibly
strong women to put up with what they have to endure. Meo has not had
her husband, the boys have not has their father around a lot because the
job is so demanding. Megan Mullen is having to endure the same -
with spring ball coming up, she's not going to see he husband much,
their son won't see his father a whole lot.
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Jackie Sherrill is Nick Saban to many Mississippi State fans in
some ways. He picked us up off the curbs and made us realize we aren't
just "poor old Mississippi State that can't do any better". I was at
State when Jackie was announced as head coach, and as a Jackie Sherrill
fan, I was in heaven. Jackie was clear every time he spoke
"Mississippi State can win and Mississippi State will win. Mississippi
State fans deserve to win." Jackie took us from being mediocre at best
to being SEC West champions playing in Atlanta. He took us to several
bowl games, he re-energized the program to where we expanded the stadium
and got much better facilities that match our SEC peers. At the end,
the toll even wore down the greatest and winningest head coach in MSU
history. It didn't help that Julie Gilbert/xenareb was screwing NCAA
investigators to try and take Jackie down.
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I think the rigor, the wear and tear, finally got to Rick as
well. For some time, he's had to deal with outright corruption in what
we call the AAU circuit. Many AAU programs will get a star player, and
the coach is looking to ride his coat tails. They turn kids into
primadonna's that don't want to work and want their butts to be kissed
24x7. They have major attitude problems, no work ethic, no respect for
their coaches and redefine spoiled brats. Rick took a massive gamble in
getting Renardo Sidney, a gamble I think he lost and regrets. I doubt
one person on this board would take McDonald's AA Sidney over Brandon
Vincent. I think Sidney was the last nail for Rick.
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I greatly appreciate what Rick did for our basketball program.
He's worked very hard for 22 years for us. Just like with Jackie, all
good things must come to an end. No coach is bigger than the program or
university. Joe Paterno was at Penn State, and you see where that got
them.
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Rick is financially set, he's got a marvelous wife and children,
and he can now spend time with his wife and kids, which is great. He
did a lot of great things at State, and I appreciate that very much.
Now its time to find the guy that can come in and build upon what Rick
has done. The new coach is going to have a great practice facility,
thanks in large part to Stans.
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gtowndawg

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it was the last time I went to a meeting like that. He was not the same person. In fact, I told my wife he looked skinny, stressed and worn out. And that was two years ago.

The amount of relief he has to feel right now is probably unbelievable knowing he doesn't have to deal with it anymore.
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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I was SHOCKED at how different he looks between now and the early 2000's. The passion, desire, and fire that is prominently displayed in the earlier photos (2000 - 2003) is just not there in the more recent pictures (2008 - present).

Early in his career, you could always count on Stans picking up 4 - 5 Technicals through the course of a season (not to mention 2 in five minutes against Ole Miss in 2003). When was the last time you remember him picking one up? He might have gotten one this year, but they've become few and far between.

I'll always have fond memories of Stansbury and the impact he's had on this program, but he lost the fire somewhere along the way. I, for one, hope he finds it again and continues to be an asset to MSU for a long time.
 

drt7891

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It takes a person with a dedicated edge and a fiery attitude to coach good defense and rebounding... because 90% of the battle in those areas (from a players perspective) is attitude and effort, the other 10% is technique. The technique is easy to teach, but instilling the "want-to" from players to go out and bump bodies and fight for position is a different animal altogether... and you can tell from your points, as well as the pictures, that Rick lost that edge. That's why his defense and rebounding (the areas that he thrived on for years) have struggled the past few seasons. He's burned out, plain and simple.
 

DerHntr

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a while after being willing to step down rather than potentially causing a firing later. But, when he was talking about his kids and never fishing with them (once in 3 years is what I think he said) or never playing golf for 22 years, it made me wonder if asignificant portion of that came from micro-managing the program. I simply can't believe that during the entire summer for three years he only had enough time to fish with his kids once. I know it is a demanding job and absolutely more demanding than a single person can hangle. I'm not discounting that fact.For example, we have argued on here multiple seasons in a row about the idea of Rick needing to hire an X and O's guy and then to actually let that person dohis job. We talkedRickbuyingin to the idea ofsomeone else takingcontrol of our strength and conditioning program and instead he was doing p90x with Sidney.

It just seems to me that the toll was definitely taken from the factors that you mentioned, butit alsomay bea problem of micro-management. I thinkthat this shouldn't be overlooked by the AD when reviewingthe candidates forRick's replacement. We don't want for the next coach to burn out in a similar manner.
 

freddawg

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with how he started the press conference yesterday that he was conflicted. His first statements were about not being with his kids and family. Then he talked about how he almost gave it up a few years ago. It seemed to me like he regretted the decision to stay. I can certainly understand how all of those things could wear you down. When a coach doesn't have the fire inside them, the players aren't going to have it either. He seemed very relieved to be stepping down. It's best for him and his family, and the program, for him to leave like he did.
 

jcdawgman18

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That happens to match the time frame that a considerable mass of human being was on the team.
 

thatsbaseball

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Raising 4 kids had a hell of a lot more to do with not playing golf than coaching did. He can blow that smoke somewhere else.</p>
 

DerHntr

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he said he wasn't having any time to raise them. Plus his kids aren't even teenagers yet so 22 years wouldn't make sense.
 

thatsbaseball

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book it. He`s gonna get some hellacious offers. The menality ? "If he did that at MSU...just think what he can do for us !
 

therightway

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This does not apply to baseball. It just seems like they tend to lose the fire at the 10 year mark. JWS lost it after the 01 season. Spurrier lost it at year 11 at UF. Mark Richt's seat was as hot as any ones to start last season. He was lucky that the east just happened to suck balls last year. The money from revenue and salary for the coaches have really amped up the intensity on both ends.
 

EmoryBellard

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To be really, <span style="font-style: italic;">really </span>good at something for an extended period.