My thoughts for the Stans Sheep....

mstateglfr

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Hanmudog said:
mstateglfr said:
Goat Redux said:
<span class="post-title">Has Stans had a losing season? No....</span>so any comparisons to Polk and Sherrill do not apply.

Next question.
Except he has. He went 14-16 in '99-'00. Thatsa losing season.
Andwhile a 15-15 season in'05-'06 isnt a losing season, itcertainly isnt a winning season.

Time for you toadjust your talking point.
I believe he was saying that he has not had a losing seasonTHIS yearthat would justify a firing like Croom and Polk did in their final seasons. However, only having two losing seasons in 12 yearsmakes it even more difficult to fire him.

Ah, well screw me then. Occam's razor and all, i guess. Yeah that makes more sense and makes his comment actually correct. Ive been wondering why he continually posts that comment...makes sense now.
 

Coach34

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Goat Redux said:
so any comparisons to Polk and Sherrill do not apply.

Next question.

without a losing season in his last 9 as their coach- why should they have higher expectations than us?
 

DowntownDawg

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NIT = successful season?

Hell, no wonder Rick is your boy.

The NIT sucks. The ONLY time it is acceptable is when you have a young team that is rebuilding, which is the only time a losing season in football works.

Again, NIT is complete and utter failure for a team that returns 5 starters and went to the NCAA's last year.
 

whatever.sixpack

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We've been .500 or better in conference play 8 of the last 9 years.

You go .500 or better in ANY of the top 4 to 6 conferences in college football, then you're in a bowl.

Stans is 85-59 in SEC regular season play the last 9 years, a 60% winning percentage, which is similar to AVERAGING a 5-3 conference record in football. A 5-3 record in the Big East, Big 10, Pac 10, or any major conference gets you a bowl each year.

Are we declining? Yes, but we're not having sub .500 seasons in league play or worse like Sherrill and Polk had MULTIPLE times before being shown the door.
We've got a shot to be good next year w/ Sidney and Smith,and it'd be foolish to fire him this year when he might be lining up our best class possibly ever in 2011.
 

Coach34

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which is similar to AVERAGING a 5-3 conference record in football


winning the SEC West in basketball doesnt even get you a bowl game...NIT = no bowl
 

whatever.sixpack

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Actually you're the idiot (notice the apostrophe re)

85-59 (averaging out to be 9.5-6.5 inSEC play)the last 9 years is a 59% winning percentage, 5-3 is a 62% winning percentage, see the similarities? Didn't think so...

Also, if you'll notice, I wasn't talking about the SECW in basketball necessarily. I said, if you have .500 record or above in ANY conference in football, you're in a bowl with 2 OOC wins. So, the winner of the worst division in college football (in the top 6 conferences) ALWAYS makes a bowl. So maybe your perception means that the NIT = no bowl, but in actuality, everyone w/ a winning conference record in football makes a bowl game.

Make sense?
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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Making the NCAAT is 10 times harder than making a bowl game. You can make a bowl game by winning 25% of your conference games. Let that sink in - 25%. Winning 25% of your conference games in basketball will certainly get you fired.
 

fishwater99

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whatever said:
We've been .500 or better in conference play 8 of the last 9 years.

You go .500 or better in ANY of the top 4 to 6 conferences in college football, then you're in a bowl.

Stans is 85-59 in SEC regular season play the last 9 years, a 60% winning percentage, which is similar to AVERAGING a 5-3 conference record in football. A 5-3 record in the Big East, Big 10, Pac 10, or any major conference gets you a bowl each year.

Are we declining? Yes, but we're not having sub .500 seasons in league play or worse like Sherrill and Polk had MULTIPLE times before being shown the door.
We've got a shot to be good next year w/ Sidney and Smith,and it'd be foolish to fire him this year when he might be lining up our best class possibly ever in 2011.
We are poorlittle Mississippi State there is no way we can compete with the real teamsin the NCAA tourney, let's just be happy with our 20 win season, another SEC West Title and a NIT bid. I bet you bought that SEC West Champs T-shirt...
 

Hidog78

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I am sure that the starting five that walked out on the floor of the Hump made the decision to spot Tenn 19 points then make a trilling come back just to screw you 17ers. I am no Stans cheerleader but he is playing with a short deck. Who do you people want him to play? Bad knees, ankles, and language problems have produced the season we all wanted . It is just like football and baseball you people give up to easy and this board is the biggest whine and cheese party going.
 

whatever.sixpack

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fishwater99 said:
We are poorlittle Mississippi State there is no way we can compete with the real teamsin the NCAA tourney, let's just be happy with our 20 win season, another SEC West Title and a NIT bid. I bet you bought that SEC West Champs T-shirt...
Again, I neversaid I was happy or satisfied w/ the year. I think everyone on here wants and hopes for better,AND thinks we can get there in basketball (while they're skeptical that we could ever be a top25 team consistently in football)
But the point still remains,8 of the last 9 years in basketball are the equivalent of bowl teams in football. It may be disappointing b/c the bar has been raised,we may be on a decline, we may be in a rut or leveled off, butno matter how you spin it,they're not BAD years and they are better than what we've been experiencing in any other sport by far.I say we don't move on until we've had a losing year OR TWO in conference play. If all these new coaches that the SEC has hired are supposedly better than Stans like you guys all think, then they should start having better records than him. Let's see if that happens first.
 

hatfieldms

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To compare the two is pretty stupid

whatever said:
Actually you're the idiot (notice the apostrophe re)

85-59 (averaging out to be 9.5-6.5 inSEC play)the last 9 years is a 59% winning percentage, 5-3 is a 62% winning percentage, see the similarities? Didn't think so...

Also, if you'll notice, I wasn't talking about the SECW in basketball necessarily. I said, if you have .500 record or above in ANY conference in football, you're in a bowl with 2 OOC wins. So, the winner of the worst division in college football (in the top 6 conferences) ALWAYS makes a bowl. So maybe your perception means that the NIT = no bowl, but in actuality, everyone w/ a winning conference record in football makes a bowl game.

Make sense?
 

hatfieldms

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And I c an assure you that no coach in the SEC can go 6-6 every single year while going to the Papa John's Bowl and keep their jobs
 

whatever.sixpack

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hatfieldms wrote:<span class="post-title">It is much harder to go 5-3 in the SEC in foortball than it is to go 10-6 in the SEC in basketball</span>
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To compare the two is pretty stupid
I didn'tsay the SEC in football necessarily, but isn't going10-6 in the SEC in basketball just as hard or harder than going 5-3 in the Big East, Pac 10, or Big 10 in football?

The point also still stands that if you have a winning conference record inANY conference then you are in a bowl.
Hell, 3 Big East teams went to bowls this year with SUB .500 conference records, and one of them beat the **** out of South Carolina in their bowl game. So yeah, I'd say going 10-6 is at least equalif not better than going 4-4 in the SEC in football