National Duals, '25, thread
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Every Ranked First-Round Match At The 2025 National Duals Invitational - FloWrestling
A list of all of the potential ranked first-round matches at the National Duals Invitational on November 15-16.
Iowa gets top seed, learns draw at 2025 National Duals Invitational
The Iowa men's wrestling team will be the top overall seed at the 2025 National Duals Invitational, as revealed Tuesday night by FloWrestling.
This episode of BaschAMania is pretty much all about the '25 National Duals. However, Sidun to PSU is discussed a bit at the end.
00:00 - Intro & Yankees Win!
02:00 - National Draw Seeds & Draws Took Place
04:45 - Why Iowa is Seeded Over Nebraska
13:30 - Iowa/Oklahoma State Being on the Same Side
16:00 - Oklahoma State Getting the 4 Seed
21:30 - The Bracket Is Set
25:05 - Will Matches Count for Seeds
27:30 - Will Guys Wrestle
30:00 - Best Early Matches
35:50 - Best Round 2 Matches
41:00 - Some Lineup Notes & Changes
47:30 - Who Will Be in The Finals?
53:30 - Penn State Lands Landon Sidun
55:35 - Sonny Amato Committing Soon + Aftershow
00:00 - Intro & Yankees Win!
02:00 - National Draw Seeds & Draws Took Place
04:45 - Why Iowa is Seeded Over Nebraska
13:30 - Iowa/Oklahoma State Being on the Same Side
16:00 - Oklahoma State Getting the 4 Seed
21:30 - The Bracket Is Set
25:05 - Will Matches Count for Seeds
27:30 - Will Guys Wrestle
30:00 - Best Early Matches
35:50 - Best Round 2 Matches
41:00 - Some Lineup Notes & Changes
47:30 - Who Will Be in The Finals?
53:30 - Penn State Lands Landon Sidun
55:35 - Sonny Amato Committing Soon + Aftershow
I understand why we are not... but still kinda wish we were in this!
The beauty of not participating beyond the rationale provided by Cael, is that it allows the competition to face off and determine where the REAL competition is. It is always fun to watch wrestling without a dog in the fight. Should be some great matches. Top seed is Iowa.
Willie said (starts at 54:40) he thinks Sidun will most likely end up at 133 after possibly a year or two at 125. Given Sidun is only a junior, I don't think anyone, including Sidun himself, knows if he will be able to make 125 effectively all four years.
fair point.... on not having a dog in the fight. (do you think the dual record had anything to do with the decision however?)
IMHO, it had nothing to do with the decision. CS has been pretty consistent over the years at not being all that attracted to National Duals at the start of the season.
Edit: I'd also add that CS did agree to one iteration of National Duals, and then Iowa reneged on the agreement. I have no inside info on how much that influenced CS on subsequent conversations about the National Duals, but if he wasn't all that into the idea, and then reluctantly goes along to not be an impediment, and has that crap happen, I suspect that it soured him even more.
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All that is true, however, Sidun himself said he expects to be a career 125.
Which of those 16 teams are a threat to beat PSU in a dual?
In a few years, Sidun and Sanchez can rock-paper-scissors to determine who gets to eat more.
yeah... Cael has said that he doesnt believe you need a national duals to add credibility or even interest to the sport... I agree... at least the way it is done now. But I feel like anytime the biggest teams participate in an event... it can add interest and attraction... something the sport is looking for
Knowing Cael... he seems to run to competition / not away from it and doubtful he puts as much stock in that record as the fans do! But cant help but to wish we were involved! Like Headlock said... it is interesting to watch with no dog in the fight but I like having a little skin in the game! Its always more exciting.
Wasn't there some iteration of an national duals champion where PSU wrestled OSU for the title of number of years ago? I think it was in that dual that Nick Suriano got hurt and could not wrestle in the NCAA tourney
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I personally think Cael might not view the record as a necessity to his resume. I do believe however that Cael understands that the record would mean a lot to the wrestlers that were part of it and also the fan base and supporters.