NBA Mock Draft

PBRME

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KY has 5 guys projected in the 1st round with 3 lottery picks. That much talent had no business not making the final.

Also, I see Sidney rated ahead of JV.
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(17, 17, 17); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">Here's the quote that sums up the whole situation :"It will be his day".</span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#111111" face="arial, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#111111" face="arial, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">Despite what they may say, Mr and Mrs Patterson love the limelight. They waited until the very end to hold PP's press conference when he signed with UK as to not share the limelight with anybody else and they are trying to do the same thing here.</span></font></div>
 

patdog

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2 1st round picks and they didn't even make the NCAA tournament and lost to Rhode Island in the 2nd round of the NIT.</p>
 

Hanmudog

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I have never seen anything special out of that guy other than being tall and white. Hell Zoubek for Duke seemed more mobile to me than him.
 

lawdawg02

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If he can somehow get a 1st round guarantee, I don't think he plays for MSU.

There's also the Monta route. First rounders get a guaranteed three year contract. Second rounders have nothing guaranteed, which is a good thing, if you prove your value early. You can sign your second contract in your second or third year (instead of your fourth) and get to bigger money sooner. It's risky, because most second rounders won't make it to that second contract (if they make it to a first), but it has worked on occassion. And for someone with dollar signs in their eyes, it can be attractive.
 

57stratdawg

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I said the same thing about Monte though. If you're not a 1st round pick in the NBA draft you're practically doomed from the start. Monte would be an exception, but Lawrence Roberts would say thats true.

He hasn't played organized BB in a while. He'd be foolish to jump into the draft waters right now.
 

OMlawdog

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I don't think Aldrich is a scoring option in the NBA, and I think Zubeck could be a better defensive presence and rebounder than Aldrich.<div>
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fishwater99

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Jun 4, 2007
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I just hope he doesn't hear that he is a 1st rounder from any teams, or like J-Money from some agent.
 

38843dawg

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not only on offense but on defense as well. A lot of people are falling in love Zubeck because they saw him grab a couple of offensive rebounds during the NCAA tournament. Aldrich averaged more rebounds, averaged more in points by double, and oh yea about his defense Aldrich only averaged 3.5 blocks a game while Zubeck didn't even average 1 a game. Anyone that has seen both play quite a bit this year knows that Aldrich is the better player will actually be a productive pro.
 

fishwater99

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Aldrich is clearly a first rounder in the NBA, he can shoot the outside shot and still hit the boards, unlike SWAT and Zoubek.
 

lawdawg02

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then you declare this year. more pub with the scouts probably isn't going to hurt you. it's just the smart move.
 

mstateglfr

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Feb 24, 2008
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Hanmudog said:
<span class="post-title">Surely Cole Aldrich is not a first rounder?
</span>I have never seen anything special out of that guy other than being tall and white. Hell Zoubek for Duke seemed more mobile to me than him.
How much KU basketball have you watched? He is a friggin stud. Hescores, he rebounds, he blocks. He plays solid defense and is fundamental in setting screens.

The guy has a terrible FTmotion, it really is scary to watch,but he is actually a damn consistent FT shooter.

He is quite mobile. He can move well with a guard when he has to switch on D off ascreen and he can run thefloorwithout issue.

Seriously, what player are you confusing him for?
 

Hanmudog

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He is Greg Ostertag part two. Have you seen the guy shoot free throws? He looks like an animatronic robot. I am just saying that he is not what you want in a first rounder because he will not be an NBA starter but some team will take him because he went to Kansas and he his tall. I would take him with a second round pick if he was still available however.
 

8dog

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played 11 years in the league and started 321 games so someone found some value in him.
 

Hanmudog

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mstateglfr said:
Hanmudog said:
<span class="post-title">Surely Cole Aldrich is not a first rounder?
</span>I have never seen anything special out of that guy other than being tall and white. Hell Zoubek for Duke seemed more mobile to me than him.
How much KU basketball have you watched? He is a friggin stud. Hescores, he rebounds, he blocks. He plays solid defense and is fundamental in setting screens.

The guy has a terrible FTmotion, it really is scary to watch,but he is actually a damn consistent FT shooter.

He is quite mobile. He can move well with a guard when he has to switch on D off ascreen and he can run thefloorwithout issue.

Seriously, what player are you confusing him for?
That he never scored more than 20pts in a game all season.Averaged less than 28 minutes a game. At seven foot, he averaged less than 10 rebounds a game. And for someone who is supposedly a good shooter he has never hit a three pointer in his career and only shoots about 68% from theFT line. That does not scream first round material.
 

mstateglfr

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Hanmudog said:
He is Greg Ostertag part two. Have you seen the guy shoot free throws? He looks like an animatronic robot. I am just saying that he is not what you want in a first rounder because he will not be an NBA starter but some team will take him because he went to Kansas and he his tall. I would take him with a second round pick if he was still available however.
1-Again, his FT motion is odd. And again, motion be damned because HE IS EFFECTIVE!He is a career 73% FT shooter. 73%. I dont care what the motion looks like if he is able to repeat itso well that he is a career 73%FT shooter. He cangranny shoot it if he wants, as long as he isthat consistent.

2- Have you seenNoah shoot a friggin FT?!?!Yep, he still has that terrible side spin. He is a center that was a 1st round lottery pick. Point is, terrible FT mechanics be damned if you can repeat them over and over again. Noah is a career 71% FT shooter.

3-How smart of you to take a projected lottery pick in the 2nd round if he was still avail.

4- I wouldnt ever take a bet on someone playing X number of minutes per game because its all projections as to how they will fit in and play in the NBA. Who would have thought Marcus Thornton would be at 14ppg and 25mpg as a rookie??? Or thatBeaubois would contribute so much so early? In the short term, it all depends on the team that a player lands on, the coach, injuries, etc.
Everything Aldrich does projects to make him effective in the NBA. He has size. He has athleticism. He has length. He has lateral quickness. He has great timing. He has an effective shot. He has strength.

Just not sure what drops him to the 2nd round.

5- Tons of first rounders and even lottery picks have been busts. For that reason alone, its obvious projecting a player isnt a science and betting on it is dumb. But odds are, betting against Aldrich wouldnt be smart.
 

38843dawg

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He didn't have to score more than 20 at Kansas and didn't have to play more than 28 minutes a game at Kansas because they also had the Morris twins and a freshman Thomas Robinson that would even come in a few minutes a game to give some backup.
 

mstateglfr

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Hanmudog said:
mstateglfr said:
Hanmudog said:
<span class="post-title">Surely Cole Aldrich is not a first rounder?
</span>I have never seen anything special out of that guy other than being tall and white. Hell Zoubek for Duke seemed more mobile to me than him.
How much KU basketball have you watched? He is a friggin stud. Hescores, he rebounds, he blocks. He plays solid defense and is fundamental in setting screens.

The guy has a terrible FTmotion, it really is scary to watch,but he is actually a damn consistent FT shooter.

He is quite mobile. He can move well with a guard when he has to switch on D off ascreen and he can run thefloorwithout issue.

Seriously, what player are you confusing him for?
That he never scored more than 20pts in a game all season.Averaged less than 28 minutes a game. At seven foot, he averaged less than 10 rebounds a game. And for someone who is supposedly a good shooter he has never hit a three pointer in his career and only shoots about 68% from theFT line. That does not scream first round material.
What does his high score for a season have to do with success in the NBA? I hear the NBAkeeps players for a long time that do things besides score. Not everyone can be an Anthony or Bryant.

He played at KUalongside Collins who was a scorer, Henry who was a scorer, and MCMorris who was apost scorer. Furthermore, KU is known to be a team with even scoring. Meaning they in recent years have rarely had a single player that scores a ton on average and instead the scoring is spread out among many players.
Go look atwhen KU won theNCAAT. Seriously look at the scoring spread, itsdistributed across the team. Brandon Rush was the scoring leader with 13.3ppg. The year before?...Rush at 13.8ppg Before that?...Rush at 13.5ppg.Collins has been their one player in the last 5 years to be a big time scorer on average. Andeven he isnt all that high a scorer, he only averaged 15.5ppg this season.

KU scoring in recent years is evenly distributed. If you dont know that, then yesAldrich's scoring looks low.But if you know that, then his scoring shouldnt look low.

As for his rebounding being below 10/game...he averaged 9.8 this year. Wow, you sure do have a point there. And last year he averaged 11.1 per game. Perhaps the Morris twins' development allowed them to rebound more this year and take away some of that responsibility from Aldrich? Nah, thats actually looking into the numbers...we wouldnt want to do that.
He averaged .37rebounds per minute played over the last 2 years...i use the last 2 years because he was was a contibutor in this time. That is a good rebounding stat.
 

Hanmudog

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fishwater99 said:
Just admit that you are wrong for once..

I don't know where some of you are getting your stats but last year Aldrich averaged 9.8 rebounds a game and shot 68% from the free throw line. He rarely had to match up with anyone his size and he played like **** in the NCAA tournament against good teams. Like someone said, he might turn out to be OK but players like him are a dime a dozen in the NBA. I would not waste a first round pick when I could get a similar player for cheap. Maybe I am jaded after seeing Emeka Okafor and Greg Oden bomb out but I don't see Aldrich as being any more talented than they were.