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I wonder what the roster limit is that was passed. If it's 100 or greater it won't help much.

Congress has to be involved to do something about transfers and NIL, so I am still pessimistic.
 
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I've said it before, but I'll mention again... now that this has passed and colleges will quite literally be taking revenue and distributing it to players for their athletic services, I look forward to the explanation as to how these players aren't employees
 

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Will our administration allow the athletic department to participate?

Bracky Brett upon hearing that universities can now pay players......

Cry About It Captain Kirk GIF
 

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Serious question. At what point are the best players going to opt to stay in college an extra year or two because it makes financial sense? As in, college is paying them more.

We seem to be headed in that direction, and I don't like any of it.
 

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Step in the right direction but gotta do something about transfers.
No, a step in the right direction would eliminate paying college athletes. Most of the commenters to that link agree as well.

Either that, or just go ahead and have a minor league of non-students representing the university, especially in football and basketball.
 

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Serious question. At what point are the best players going to opt to stay in college an extra year or two because it makes financial sense? As in, college is paying them more.

We seem to be headed in that direction, and I don't like any of it.
The problem is that very few of these kids remember how tough the real world is after being waiting on for 2-3 years. And they are surrounded by world-class predators that will sell their own kids a pipe dream of being millionaires just so they can get a few bones thrown their way.
 
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No, a step in the right direction would eliminate paying college athletes. Most of the commenters to that link agree as well.

Either that, or just go ahead and have a minor league of non-students representing the university, especially in football and basketball.
You can forget about it. The proverbial box has been opened.
 

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Formalize it, get it on paper, make it offiicial. Until then it will continue to be championships for the highest bidders.

Salary caps, draft, and make NIL actual marketing agreements as well.
 

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The MSU AD should make some tough decisions since our funds can't continue to support all sports in the new NIL Era. I would have it down to this:

Men's Sports: Football, Baseball, and Basketball
Women's Sports: Soccer, Softball, Basketball, and Volleyball.

Kept one women's sport to help offset total number of schollies.
 

leeinator

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Why are we even talking about scholarships anymore? They're making big bucks so they can pay for the own damn school.
That can be negotiated, but we'll need to be reasonably competitive with most of the other SEC schools. The sports I deleted from my original post will just have to be vacated from the other SEC schools. Track & field....GONE. Golf.....GONE. Tiddly Winks....GONE! Only reason I kept Volleyball was to sort of balance the women vs men's numbers in football. If Title IX would let us just have equal sports, then I would delete VolleyBall.
 
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No, a step in the right direction would eliminate paying college athletes. Most of the commenters to that link agree as well.

Either that, or just go ahead and have a minor league of non-students representing the university, especially in football and basketball.
100%.

And anyone thinking that this ruling is any type of solution is a moron. Collectives will still operate, and the first attempt to 'regulate' them will result in a lawsuit.

All these 'leaders' are so damn dumb. The answer to the reality we live in is simple. You sit out a year when you transfer - period.
 

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Nevermind. The title of this thread was miss leading but the article clearly says the ncaa passed rules to allow the colleges to pay the players.

the ncaa will most likely be keeping all their revenue. Ha.
 
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100%.

And anyone thinking that this ruling is any type of solution is a moron. Collectives will still operate, and the first attempt to 'regulate' them will result in a lawsuit.

All these 'leaders' are so damn dumb. The answer to the reality we live in is simple. You sit out a year when you transfer - period.
Yeah, definitely nothing close to a solution, but I think the hope is that’s it’s a step closer to some sort of contractual obligation based on play.

Take the whole Clary mess for example… a lot of fans kept talking about how we should pull his NIL, but Charlie kept reiterating that that’s not an option because NIL can in no way be based on play or performance. Ridiculous, yes, but it’s where we are with it.

I hate all this crap as much the next guy, and I’d honestly be thrilled if all the big money NIL kids never played a minute of college sports, but my hope is that’s just maybe this will inch us towards legit play-based contracts.
 

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Serious question. At what point are the best players going to opt to stay in college an extra year or two because it makes financial sense? As in, college is paying them more.

We seem to be headed in that direction, and I don't like any of it.
Or scholarships or all kinds are taxed. Athletics started a slippery slope
 

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Yeah, definitely nothing close to a solution, but I think the hope is that’s it’s a step closer to some sort of contractual obligation based on play.

Take the whole Clary mess for example… a lot of fans kept talking about how we should pull his NIL, but Charlie kept reiterating that that’s not an option because NIL can in no way be based on play or performance. Ridiculous, yes, but it’s where we are with it.

I hate all this crap as much the next guy, and I’d honestly be thrilled if all the big money NIL kids never played a minute of college sports, but my hope is that’s just maybe this will inch us towards legit play-based contracts.
I don't understand that. They can sit out or renegotiate when they do good. There needs to be something in the contract, you get this much a game. The sec needs to get together and develop how they write these contracts. That's the only way to not get taken advantage of at every turn like the schools/ teams have been so far
 

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The MSU AD should make some tough decisions since our funds can't continue to support all sports in the new NIL Era. I would have it down to this:

Men's Sports: Football, Baseball, and Basketball
Women's Sports: Soccer, Softball, Basketball, and Volleyball.

Kept one women's sport to help offset total number of schollies.
Cheer to substitute. I would think that would be cheaper than some of those order women's sports
 
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I hate the transfer portal too, but how is it any different than the corporate world? I see a lot of resumes with 1-year stops.
 

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“Greg Sankey, Jim Phillips, Tony Petitti, and Brett Yormark have all been on Capitol Hill to discuss with Congress how it can help regulate NIL and the transfer portal, the latter of which continues to be a hit among college athletes looking to score more money,”

Also the house settlement is close to settling. IF the ncaa clearing house, for
Nil, can be in place and effective, that's a great tool to reign in the money.
 
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The MSU AD should make some tough decisions since our funds can't continue to support all sports in the new NIL Era. I would have it down to this:

Men's Sports: Football, Baseball, and Basketball
Women's Sports: Soccer, Softball, Basketball, and Volleyball.

Kept one women's sport to help offset total number of schollies.
I think we are already at the minimum number for D1 and SEC membership.
 

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I hate the transfer portal too, but how is it any different than the corporate world? I see a lot of resumes with 1-year stops.
In our industry we have 1 year trailing non-competes and non-solicitations for our W2s and 1099s. It's industry standard. You can "transfer" but you have to sit out a year. There are creative legal ways to mitigate but it's risky and can be disruptive to relationships and your book of business.
 

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I've said it before, but I'll mention again... now that this has passed and colleges will quite literally be taking revenue and distributing it to players for their athletic services, I look forward to the explanation as to how these players aren't employees
1099 contractors? Seems like the IRS might get a little interested if they think universities are dodging employment taxes by calling them contractors.....could be a co-employment issue incoming.
 
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In our industry we have 1 year trailing non-competes and non-solicitations for our W2s and 1099s. It's industry standard. You can "transfer" but you have to sit out a year. There are creative legal ways to mitigate but it's risky and can be disruptive to relationships and your book of business.
Definitely see this necessary in some industries. Sitting out for a year on an ~5 year football career seems excessive. That would be equivalent to sitting out 8 years of a 40 year career.

So, maybe the sit out period shows back up but instead in the form of first 4 games sit out. Unfortunately, I think it would take NFL-style collective bargaining to get a palatable solution to the transfer and NIL madness.
FWIW, I don’t like it either, but that’s what the pros do and that’s the best model that seems to support the Supreme Courts decision.
 
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Listening to the House settlement commentary on OutOfLeftfield was depressing.... at least to me. I appreciate the show though. Lots of good information.

If players continue to file suit for more and
More After the house settlement, I dnk how anyone can follow College sports any longer.