NCAA pres speaks out on Cam ruling.
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"In the Cam Newton reinstatement case, there was not sufficient evidence available to establish he had any knowledge of his father’s actions and there was no indication he actually received any impermissible benefit."
I think this blows a hole in any theories about taped conversations and FBI evidence... I guess it is possible that additional evidence will come to light at some point in the future but I'm not holding my breath.
I think this blows a hole in any theories about taped conversations and FBI evidence... I guess it is possible that additional evidence will come to light at some point in the future but I'm not holding my breath.
<span style="font-style: italic;">"The investigation does not stop with a student-athlete eligibility
issue, but school officials must address it as soon as they are aware of
the violations."
</span>So you're telling me that Auburn only became aware of violations the Monday after the Iron Bowl? Gimme a break.<span style="font-style: italic;">
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issue, but school officials must address it as soon as they are aware of
the violations."
</span>So you're telling me that Auburn only became aware of violations the Monday after the Iron Bowl? Gimme a break.<span style="font-style: italic;">
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Actually, they became of aware of them in July, proceeded to do its own internal investigation, and found no reason to move forward and found no violations. (rolling my eyes as I typed that)00Dawg said:
This is all based on comments from the Commish when he threw us under the bus or in one of the stories about all of this.
to make sense out of that statement. I understood that Universities are responsible for rules violations through the infractions process, and student-athletes are responsible for rules violations of the eligibility process....but I was pretty lost after that.
The NCAA President **** the bed, step in ****, and wants a real good NC so he just looked the other way. Auburn will be fried down the road for this but the President got what he wanted if SC doesn't 17 it up.
1. Sit Cam and investigate all this.
2. Sit back and say nothing until season is over and investigation is over.
They chose to do neither and now they are paying the price publicly. It will only get worse from here on out. The only thing people will be talking about from now to the National Title game is not the game, but Cam Newton. Additionally, the Heisman trust should take his name off the ballot. They are a private entity and can pick and choose who is on thier ballot. If someone is questionable, and has a father who has admitted to shopping him around then that is the trust's out.
2. Sit back and say nothing until season is over and investigation is over.
They chose to do neither and now they are paying the price publicly. It will only get worse from here on out. The only thing people will be talking about from now to the National Title game is not the game, but Cam Newton. Additionally, the Heisman trust should take his name off the ballot. They are a private entity and can pick and choose who is on thier ballot. If someone is questionable, and has a father who has admitted to shopping him around then that is the trust's out.
NC game? Not to mention the other SEC BCS teams and that whole "share the wealth" thing. So, take a deep breath, take the money, and get over it.
that the SEC and NCAA have made their decision. I believe this is the end of it. They don't want the bad press and the financial losses that would come with denying Auburn the chance to play in the NC game at this point because of a player being paid to play. I think Slive convinced them that it was too late to act. I don't think that the NCAA would rule him eligible if they thought there was a chance that they'd have to overrule themselves in the future, especially if it means taking the title away from Auburn after the fact. This seems especially true when you consider that they could have avoided the whole situation by ruling him ineligible when the accusations were first brought to light.
The SEC is a lock to get 2 BCS slots, and it doesn't matter whether one of those slots is the Championship game. If Auburn had to forfeit games from this season, then that could wind up costing the SEC a BCS slot. But if all they did was rule Cam ineligible for the SECCG, then Auburn would still wind up with a BCS bid.
The NCAA and the SEC by law mentions nothing about the student knowing or not knowing. If they wanted to add that in there then they should have and if they just neglected to add that then that should be their problem. The fact of the matter is is that laws and by laws should be ruling on their exact wording without offering the authors the opportunity to re-interpret or re-define at will what something "really" means or should have meant.dogmess said:
The Ncaa has already found that there was a solicitation which implicity declares your agreeability to said proposal/offer. So please tell me why this isnt "receives or agrees to receive"? The SEC's response was:
<font size="2">“SEC Bylaw 14.01.3.2 does not apply in this situation,”
SEC spokesman Charles Bloom said in an e-mail to The Clarion-Ledger. “It
only applies when there is an actual payment of an improper benefit, or
an <span style="font-weight: bold;">agreement (such as a handshake agreement) to pay and receive an
improper benefit</span>. The facts in this case, as we understand them, are
that the student-athlete’s father, without the knowledge of the
student-athlete, solicited improper payments (which were rejected) from
an institution the young man did not attend, and that the institution
where the young man is enrolled was not involved.”</font>
The by law says NOTHING in the by law about any agreement. It doesnt says , "receives or agrees to receive with a verbal agreement, physical handshake, signed letter of intent or wireless payments and only if the student-athlete is aware of said agreement". it says "receives or agrees to receive". Anytime you solicit someone you implicitly agree to receive it by its very definition. And solicitation has been found to have happened.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The enforcement staff investigates all types of rules violations,” said Julie Roe Lach, NCAA vice president of enforcement. “Some of these investigations affect student-athlete eligibility and others do not. The investigation does not stop with a student-athlete eligibility issue, but school officials must address it as soon as they are aware of the violations.”
</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Hell Auburn just made the eligibility committee know Monday.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>We have known this for, weeks.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I still say this stinks to high heaven.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">
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</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Hell Auburn just made the eligibility committee know Monday.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>We have known this for, weeks.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I still say this stinks to high heaven.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">
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