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NCHSAA RPI 1A Rankings October 10th

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NCHSAA 1A rankings @ 3:09pm October 13th

1A West ( last week's ranking) [MaxPreps top 10 comparison]
1 Eastern Randolph ( 1)...............[1]
2 Mount Airy (2)..........................[2]
3 Swain County (15).....................[7]
4 Mitchell (3).................................[3]
5 Murphy (9).................................[6]
6 Thomasville (5).........................[4]
7 Starmount (8)..........................[12]
8 Andrews (3) ..,............................[9]
9 Mtn Heritage (7)........................[5]
10 Thomas Jefferson (6)..............[8]
11 Elkin (10)
12 Mt Island Charter (11)............[10]
13 South Stokes (14)
14 North Rowan (12)
15 North Stokes (16)
16 Draughn (18)
17 Carver (17)
18 Cherokee (21)
19 East Wilkes (19)
20 Hayesville (20)
21 Robbinsville (13)
22 Cherryville (24)
23 Bessemer City (23)
24 Bishop McGuinness (22)
25 Christ the King (24)
26 South Davidson (28)
27 Allegheny (26)
28 Avery (30)
29 Albermrle (32)
30 Highland Tech (29)
31 Union Academy (31)
32 South Stanley (26)
33 Winston-Salem Prep (32)
34 Rosman (34)

1A East ( last week's ranking). [MaxPreps top 10 comparison]
1 North Moore (1).............................[2]
2 Northside-Pinetown (4) ..............[3]
3 Tarboro (3) .....................................[1]
4 Southside (2)..................................[7]
5 Riverside-Martin (8)......................[6]
6 Rosewood (6).................................[4]
7 Northampton (5)..........................[8]
8 Perquimans (11).............................[5]
9 Welton (7)......................................[15]
10 KIPP Pride (9)............................. [13]
11 Pender (15)....................................[9]
12 Pamlico County (10)
13 North Edgecombe (14)
14 West Columbus (13)...................[10]
15 Gates County (18)
16 Washington County (12)
17 Northwest Halifax (16)
18 East Columbus (21)
19 North Duplin (17)
20 Warren County (15)
21 Lakewood (25)
22 Hobbton (28)
23 Bertie (26)
24 Southeast Halifax (22)
25 Bear Grass Charter (27)
26 Rocky Mount Prep (20)
27 Chatham Central (23)
28 Jones (24)
29 South Creek (30)
30 Columbia (20)
31 Lejeune (31)
 
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Old Mountaineer said:
Even if they lose and win the last two they might still stay #1 depending on their opw and oopw playing a 4-1 school shouldn't hurt the opw
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So if the playoffs stayed the same tarboro would get the two seed and North Moore would be the one seed? I'm just confused with how this new playoff format works lol it's a perfect example of if it ain't broke don't fix it
 
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Tarboro Vikings fan 2018 said:
So if the playoffs stayed the same tarboro would get the two seed and North Moore would be the one seed? I'm just confused with how this new playoff format works lol it's a perfect example of if it ain't broke don't fix it
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Well if it's a deal where they're both undefeated then easy. What complicates it is NM being in a split conference some think if you win in your classification in your conference then you get seeded with other conference champions who get seeded first but others ( I kinda lean this way) think it doesn't matter you only get seated as a conference champion if you win the whole thing, if that is the scenario then if NM loses to Cummings but keeps a higher RPI then Tarboro but Tarboro wins their conference then Tarboro would be higher seeded because conference champions are seeded first.
I'm sure that just cleared it right up😂
Sometimes the way the word things in their rules it's not very plain.
 
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Old Mountaineer said:
Well if it's a deal where they're both undefeated then easy. What complicates it is NM being in a split conference some think if you win in your classification in your conference then you get seeded with other conference champions who get seeded first but others ( I kinda lean this way) think it doesn't matter you only get seated as a conference champion if you win the whole thing, if that is the scenario then if NM loses to Cummings but keeps a higher RPI then Tarboro but Tarboro wins their conference then Tarboro would be higher seeded because conference champions are seeded first.
I'm sure that just cleared it right up😂
Sometimes the way the word things in their rules it's not very plain.
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This same scenario could happen with Eastern Randolph...
 
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Okay if you notice any changes I not messing with anyone. I noticed from a screenshot I took Friday of the rankings that few teams rankings was different from what I posted earlier in the week October 5th and I was like how did I mess that up and I made the changes like I had Robbinsville 16 and in the picture they were 13.
Well the post I made today was from their list this afternoon I think a little after 4pm well I looked again and noticed it said updated at 10:09pm and there were 4 teams in the west and 2 in the east in different spots. So I guess the first time I just didn't notice the update but really I wasn't expecting one I figured once the NCHSAA posted them then they were set until the next week.
 
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Well if it's a deal where they're both undefeated then easy. What complicates it is NM being in a split conference some think if you win in your classification in your conference then you get seeded with other conference champions who get seeded first but others ( I kinda lean this way) think it doesn't matter you only get seated as a conference champion if you win the whole thing, if that is the scenario then if NM loses to Cummings but keeps a higher RPI then Tarboro but Tarboro wins their conference then Tarboro would be higher seeded because conference champions are seeded first.
I'm sure that just cleared it right up😂
Sometimes the way the word things in their rules it's not very plain.
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Ah ok I think I understand it now. A lot riding on that Cummings game for North moore then.
 
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Dogs9 said:
Just curious how they can rank South Davidson ahead of South Stanly when both teams only has one win each but South Stanly win was against South Davidson .
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............................... WP......OPW...oopw.... total
26 South Davidson 0.167 0.477 0.417 0.366
32South Stanly ......0.1670.3190.4690.318

All I can say apparently ( except in conference ranking) head to head competition in the RPI rankings doesn't matter it's yours and the winning percentage your opponents.
 
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Okay I don't know what the crap is going on . on the official NCHSAA RPI rankings site they updated again at 8:09am today and it changed again for examples Cherokee went from 17 to 18 and Robbinsville went from 16 to 20 their numbers changed but they did have Robbinsville at .500 but they're 2-3 which is .400 just don't understand why they had it wrong in the first place. So right now I'm not going to keep changing it I'm going to wait and see if they're updateds stop changing the rankings.
 
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One interesting thing to note, the seeds could work in line with the rankings. If the top 5 teams win their conferences, then theoretically we are looking at the current playoff bracket correct?
 
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Mitchell county mountie said:
One interesting thing to note, the seeds could work in line with the rankings. If the top 5 teams win their conferences, then theoretically we are looking at the current playoff bracket correct?
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Well in my post Thomasville is 5 but in their 8:09am update they've move Murphy to 5 so let's say Murphy stays there and all the top 5 win the rest of their games and stay in the same order and win their conferences then yeah that would be your top 5 seeds. Thomasville is a little trickier because they're in a split conference and a 2A school right now lead that conference and I'm not sure how that rule works as far as seeding.
 
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Well in my post Thomasville is 5 but in their 8:09am update they've move Murphy to 5 so let's say Murphy stays there and all the top 5 win the rest of their games and stay in the same order and win their conferences then yeah that would be your top 5 seeds. Thomasville is a little trickier because they're in a split conference and a 2A school right now lead that conference and I'm not sure how that rule works as far as seeding.
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yeah and they've moved Swain to 3rd lol.
 
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Mitchell county mountie said:
yeah and they've moved Swain to 3rd lol.
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Well they had Swain at .500 WP originally but they're 3-2 which is .600 and they changed their opw from .694 to .753 but there are others that they're 10:09pm update had the wrong winning percentage so I guess the opw and oopw would change as well. My question is why didn't they have it all correct in the first place before posting it? And will it change again? I noticed in their first posting in September that highschool ot waited until Tuesday of that week to post it so maybe that's when it settles down into the correct numbers.
 
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My best guess as to why it's been changing so much us because I think they pull stuff from MaxPreps and MaxPreps schedules and stuff aren't always correct. MaxPreps had Robbinsville at 3-3 earlier because someone had went in and put that they beat Swain last week when they didn't even play. Probably take a few days to get everything sorted out each week.
 
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FYNSportsJakeWest said:
My best guess as to why it's been changing so much us because I think they pull stuff from MaxPreps and MaxPreps schedules and stuff aren't always correct. MaxPreps had Robbinsville at 3-3 earlier because someone had went in and put that they beat Swain last week when they didn't even play. Probably take a few days to get everything sorted out each week.
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I bet your right , that's what I was wondering I noticed the same thing that MaxPreps had Robbinsville yesterday at 3-3. But I would have thought that the NCHSAA once switched from MaxPreps to their own RPI formula that they had their own program and kept up with the scores and records themselves, seems using MaxPreps for your record keeping is lazy. Plus if you're using MaxPreps everyone knows sometimes they're slow to report game finals because they seem to rely on the scores to be reported to them, sometimes you'll see a one the night of a game and sometimes it's a few days after Friday but all this doesn't answer why they don't wait until they have all the information needed before they post the RPI personally I'd rather for them to wait until Monday or Tuesday and post the correct RPI rating the first time instead of this changing back and forth.
 
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FYNSportsJakeWest said:
MaxPreps also earlier in the year had Murphy Play Union County SC instead of Union County GA lol. Easy mistakes like that I'm sure jank up the RPI rankings.
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Shouldn't be up to MaxPreps, I sure it's hard to keep up with all these game changes this year with covid cancel games and rescheduling with another team. MaxPreps is keeping up with the nation and is only as good as games are reported to them , the NCHSAA only needs to keep up with North Carolina and should be able to do it themselves since they are the governing body of NC sports without relying on MaxPreps.
You'd think with $40 million in the bank that they could hire a computer programmer and implement their own system.
 
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My best guess as to why it's been changing so much us because I think they pull stuff from MaxPreps and MaxPreps schedules and stuff aren't always correct. MaxPreps had Robbinsville at 3-3 earlier because someone had went in and put that they beat Swain last week when they didn't even play. Probably take a few days to get everything sorted out each week.
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Well it's becoming more obvious that's what's happening I just noticed the a game in the east Friday between Warren county and KIPP Pride still shows their winning percentage before the game in the RPI rankings and the score hasn't been reported to MaxPreps yet.
 
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How many teams make the playoffs this year? Is it 16 from East and 16 from west?
 
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Everybody makes it but 2 teams in the West. 32 make it out of 34 in west. And all 31 make it in the east with 1 seed gettin a bye.
 
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Everybody makes it but 2 teams in the West. 32 make it out of 34 in west. And all 31 make it in the east with 1 seed gettin a bye.
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Yeah a winless team shouldn't be making the playoffs smh. I actually like the format that we used in the spring season personally. And it would put a lot of drama in the final weeks of the regular season as far as who gets into the playoffs.
 
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THSRudeBoyz said:
I hope THS does get the #1 seed. North Moore like 2 hours away from us 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣
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Robbins to Tarboro going to be a little bit longer depending on traffic in Raleigh area. Seems like it takes forever to get through there.
But I am a country boy who ain’t been nowhere so what do I know?
 
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How will Independents be treated? For example, Beat Grass Charter is an independent in football. Will they be treated as a conference champion or will they be seeded with the at-large qualifiers?
 
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Did they request to be independent? If so, why should they be included in the playoffs?
 
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How will Independents be treated? For example, Beat Grass Charter is an independent in football. Will they be treated as a conference champion or will they be seeded with the at-large qualifiers?
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It will be interesting to see how they seed them.

It says that conferences that have 1-5 teams have 1 automatic qualifier. So I would assume they automatically qualify. However, I personally would think they would be seeded with the at-large teams because they only have a single team in the conference. I say that due to this statement in the rules, "The highest finishing team from a given classification in a split conference will automatically qualify, regardless of overall conference finish, provided there are at least two schools from each classification in that split conference." I know they are not in a split conference but with there only being a single team in that conference for football, I would think they would be seeded with at-large.
 
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It will be interesting to see how they seed them.

It says that conferences that have 1-5 teams have 1 automatic qualifier. So I would assume they automatically qualify. However, I personally would think they would be seeded with the at-large teams because they only have a single team in the conference. I say that due to this statement in the rules, "The highest finishing team from a given classification in a split conference will automatically qualify, regardless of overall conference finish, provided there are at least two schools from each classification in that split conference." I know they are not in a split conference but with there only being a single team in that conference for football, I would think they would be seeded with at-large.
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What about split conferences that only have 2 1A teams. Like the Conference North Moore is in, Chatham Central is the only other 1A team in the conference and they only have 1 win. Will they get seeded as a 2nd place finisher or at-large?
 
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