BB Recruiting Ndongo has decommitted from Rutgers
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At the risk of sounding like I'm complaining about the complainers, this whole thread makes it seem like people only transfer to become starters who are making millions. I don't claim to know what will happen in the next few weeks, but goodness, you all need to breathe.
"RUTGERS SHOULDN'T MAKE EXCUSES"
BUT AT THE SAME TIME
"HIGHEST NIL ALSO PLAYING TIME"
"RUTGERS SHOULDN'T MAKE EXCUSES"
BUT AT THE SAME TIME
"HIGHEST NIL ALSO PLAYING TIME"
When a better NIL comes along the player is NLI in the team they commtted to.
Great point
A portal guy may actually help the team more for this season
By the 90s Seinfeld was saying about baseball "It's different guys every year. You're rooting for clothes, when you get right down to it. We're screaming about laundry."
RU is still a long way from that. I wish Ndogo well but I would rather root for players who have affinity for the school.
RU is still a long way from that. I wish Ndogo well but I would rather root for players who have affinity for the school.
Exactly, he did not have enough confidence that playing time would be available with the presence of Ace Bailey. I also guess Pikiell's loyalty nature did not rub off on Hobbs. Seems more likely the two had a disagreement.
Ace doesn’t get to RU until a year later. Additionally, Ace is a one and done. So Ndongo would have been positioned to be the potential starter his final two seasons. He was never coming in as an immediate starter to begin with.
As for Hobbs, what loyalty are you talking about? Every coach does that if they can. If UNC or Duke called Pike at the end of next season do you think he’s thinking about RU and leaving Ace & Dylan on the banks? He’s going to take them if they are willing to follow.
You are correct about Ace. However you are making an assumption about his future ( one and done ). Until he proves himself against experience college players no one knows his future. An example is Cliff. He is still an RU player not a pro.
So you are of the belief that close relationships mean nothing. If a player asks to follow a coach, that's one thing; however, if that supposedly good friend coach ,actively recruits that kid away, that's another.
I truly believe Pike wouldn’t leave for Duke or UNC or anywhere
He’s CT born but now Jersey through and through
Cliff was never going to be a one and done. He was around 40th in his class and it was well known that he was a freak athlete but raw in basketball - he didn’t start playing until high school.
Ace is 3rd in his class with the potential to be 1. He’s polished and comparisons to KD aren’t unfair.
Ace is already a top 5 player and could make a push as the best of the class this summer. His all around game is light years ahead of where Cliff was coming out of HS and he’s still got one year left.
You are letting emotion determine what is fair game in coaching/recruiting when guys change jobs. I see you completely ignore the Pike example. So I’ll ask you were you upset when Holloway took several players with him from St. Peter’s or Pitino taking a player with him to St. John’s?
1. Pretty sure Ace could sit out the year and get drafted in 2025. "Proves himself against experienced college players" isn't actually a thing for elite HS recruits except among CBB fans who don't follow the NBA. Victor gas been the #1 pick in 2023 for over a year. Scoot went to the G-League and been a Top 3 pick for over a year.
2. If HC Pike hired an assistant from another school - would we not want that new assistant to try and get his elite recruits to switch to Rutgers? Isn't that why people ask the recruiting ability of potential assistants? So they can bring players to Rutgers.
Therefore, am I to conclude that both you and RUFAN4LIFE feel there is no such thing as true friends with tight relationships and loyalty in college coaching? Coaches are motivated only by self interest and screw everyone else. If that is the case; don't you think that attitude in sports and coaching might be teaching our kids to be cut throat in life and win at all cost? I guess such behavior is not a surprise, when one considers the shenanigans going on in politics.
I feel there are assistant coaches that are true friends and extremely loyal to the HC' they work under.
Doing the best job they can do for the program their good friend runs.
But once they leave that program for another, friendship with the HCthey just left stays, but the loyalty to the program ends and their new job is where their loyalty lies and that means if they can bring the recruits they went after before, they are professionally obligated to bring them with them
to the new program and every HC understands that because they expect it from their new hires.
They’re both, friends and competitors. These guys are very good at compartmentalization. Same as the players.
This response indicates that you don't take Rutgers losses gracefully and are prone to criticism .
Aaron Bradshaw (C) is the #2 2023 recruit and from NJ. Verbal to Kentucky but supposed he didnt sign yet.
Supposed we hire his lead recruiter as to replace Hobbs.
Would it not be expected he would try to sway this kid to Rutgers? You wouldn't want him to switch to Rutgers?
As the saying goes, “it’s business, not personal” and coaches understand this. Fans like you do not and start throwing around terms like “loyalty” as some line in the sand that can’t be crossed. Yet if the situation was reversed & RU hired a coach who brought players with them you’d be cheering. The typical fan double standard.
I don’t really have a huge problem with Hobbs recruiting this guy after he went to Georgia Tech per se. It’s not like he was a completely unknown commodity without significant video from camps, etc. My real problem is the timing – – the recruit decommitting so late in the process and making it difficult to find a replacement.
In certain circumstances, I do think it is sleazy to poach a recruit. You might remember when Rob Lanier left. At that point, RU’s recruiting was really oriented towards finding generally unidentified recruits in obscure places because they couldn’t compete for the known commodities. And they had to carefully allocate the search resources when they did that because you could only look in so many places. There was a guy who had an uneventful freshman year at Loyola a few years prior, who then went to a no name division II junior college where he finished three years later. This was a guy without a camp resume or video, who absolutely no one knew about, and who had no other offers. But Bannon thought that they found a hidden gem. Lanier sold Rick Barnes on him sight unseen when he took the Texas job, and the recruit became a starter for a very good team at Texas. 100% of what Lanier knew about this guy he found out strictly on RU’s nickel, and it cost Texas nothing. That one I did have a problem with.
In certain circumstances, I do think it is sleazy to poach a recruit. You might remember when Rob Lanier left. At that point, RU’s recruiting was really oriented towards finding generally unidentified recruits in obscure places because they couldn’t compete for the known commodities. And they had to carefully allocate the search resources when they did that because you could only look in so many places. There was a guy who had an uneventful freshman year at Loyola a few years prior, who then went to a no name division II junior college where he finished three years later. This was a guy without a camp resume or video, who absolutely no one knew about, and who had no other offers. But Bannon thought that they found a hidden gem. Lanier sold Rick Barnes on him sight unseen when he took the Texas job, and the recruit became a starter for a very good team at Texas. 100% of what Lanier knew about this guy he found out strictly on RU’s nickel, and it cost Texas nothing. That one I did have a problem with.
College basketball is big business for big boys
It’s better to be getting recruits that other programs covet than not. Our fans better get a thick skin.
I'm glad I no longer take any athletes verbal commitment seriously. This way I'm not disappointed.
I feel bad for coaches. This nonsense must drive them crazy.
I feel bad for coaches. This nonsense must drive them crazy.
How many coaches have recruited kids, told them they'd be there and then left for more money somewhere else?
Redshirting athletes and thinking you can develop players to contribute in a year or two have become an afterthought.
A team General Manager and Portal Expert is probably as important as an assistant coach.
A team General Manager and Portal Expert is probably as important as an assistant coach.
Recruiting means nothing now until they sign. Then you get the for one year and it's do it all over again.
I give these college coaches a lot of credit. It's a huge hassle playing these recruiting games. The whims of 18 year olds determining your future must be constant anxiety.
Years ago, one of the head coaches told me “imagine what it’s like to spend a good chunk of your life kissing the butts of 17 year olds.“ I can only imagine what he would’ve thought about life with the transfer portal and NIL.
Fine I'll make it more obvious.
2024 C James Brown (4* #48 overall)
According to Rivals we offered.
Current verbal to UNC.
Supposed he hired away his lead recruiter to file the current vacancy.
I'm sure HC Pike would have a conversation about flipping Brown over to Rutgers.
Has there been a transfer portal entrant whose father is the head coach? Like a Boeheim or McCaffery offspring?
I never apprecitated Seinfeld, and I will disagree. You are referencing a comedian who made a very good living developing episodes based on literally nothing. I will continue to scream about laundry and support all those respectful athletes who choose to don the Scarlet R.
With that close a family connection in the South, why the hell did he move North? I know there are potential, multiple, obvious answers by they way.