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lasher8

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IMO_They do have cures for cancer...and you better believe they have a cure for HIV/AIDS since this was a man-made disease. There are several motives behind a disease like HIV....I am not here to debate it just state my beliefs.

i.e. Lyme Disease (its not anything like HIV but its man-made)


Like T-Bone said....Big Pharma...just one reason

I don't want to debate this, and definitely not in this thread, but I would love to hear your thoughts on the highlighted parts of your post. PM me, maybe...if you don't want to go to the trouble, I'll understand.
 
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Yes--if a major pharmaceutical company came up with the cure for AIDS, it would be used on tens of millions of people, and their stock would go hyperbolic in the process. Cure AIDS, cancer-- or just having a decent virus killer-- is the Holy Grail of Big Pharma, as the sales would be stratospheric. You are right about not trusting the government--not because it is evil, but because it is ineffective and incompetent.
 

TBone.sixpack

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While I disagree, I do respect your opinion and approach to the subject.

I don't necessarily consider myself a conspiracy theorist. But with the power and money involved it does place me in the highly skeptical category.
 

Victory Red

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IMO_They do have cures for cancer...and you better believe they have a cure for HIV/AIDS since this was a man-made disease. There are several motives behind a disease like HIV....I am not here to debate it just state my beliefs.

i.e. Lyme Disease (its not anything like HIV but its man-made)

Like T-Bone said....Big Pharma...just one reason

HIV is man-made? Are you posting this from your psych ward?

Same for Lyme disease....Good gracious.
 

Victory Red

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You can also trust the Government. They are looking out for our absolute well being.

You honestly think major pharmaceuticals would welcome a cure? Not saying there is one but you can bet your *** they would want to suppress it.
Do they not find a way to sell millions upon millions of flu vaccines every year?
 

TBone.sixpack

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Do they? I wouldn't know on that one. I don't get flu shots. I can't tell you the last time I got the flu either.

I am not saying I am right. I simply distrust drug companies. One reason is being prescribed something that you need an additional 2 pills to counter the side affects.

It is a personal opinion. You don't have to join me.
 

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Yeah, I hope people aren't being serious. People here are tinfoil hat-level crazy.
 

AFDawg

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Just so you know, tin foil hats actually make it easier for the government to read your thoughts.
 

DerHntr

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You can't honestly think that these large companies are inherently evil.

This thread took a bizarre turn.
 

TBone.sixpack

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Where did I state that they were evil? Distrust is automatically evil now?

unless you believe greed is evil I guess. And I will state once again...this is my opinion. I don't care what any of you feel or think about it. You bash away.....not going to take my birthday from me.
 
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lasher8

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**Thanks Victory, Arlo, OP4, AFDawg...thanks a lot! now I'll never get to hear his thoughts on this.
 

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Some of the posts in this thread are proof that at least part of MSU`s growth has come as the result of a significant compromise of academic standards.
 

RocketDawg

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Yeah, the thread had degenerated hasn't it. Hopefully the fringe element is composed not of MSU graduates, but sidewalk fans.
 
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Humor me and give a hypothesis on how/why someone would create these viruses. Let's hear a theory, at least. I'm genuinely curious what you think of when you think of the "creation" of HIV.
 

TBone.sixpack

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Wrong lunatic. I think that was Shrubdogs claim

I simply stated I don't trust drug companies and have been called unintelligent and crazy.

If that makes me a lunatic then so be it. I have never understood the pack mentality around here.
 

DerHntr

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If supressing a cure for HIV isn't evil, then I'm not sure what you think is evil.

Plus as has been said, they'd sell the hell out of it.
 

TBone.sixpack

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  1. Again, wrong poster. If you are gonna smack talk at least get the right person. Never once said AIDS was invented.
 

TBone.sixpack

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Ok. Since you are at least being civil let me ask you this.....who pays for to cure all the Africans with aids? Profits matter.

And yes if they had the cure they would sell it but would that not essentially be a one sale deal? Lots if sales to people who could afford it, but what about the others?

I enjoy different viewpoints and I could very well be wrong. It's the attitude that some here that their view is the only one with merit that rubbed me the wrong way.

AIDS is not really the disease I was thinking of......Moreso cancer.
 
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Arloguthrie

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Sorry, I should've said, "I don't trust pigeons, but I don't think they're sitting on the cure to cancer."
 

DerHntr

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A cure and a preventative vaccine are different things. If they found a cure, they would have to get it out to all people around the world who know they have HIV to keep it from spreading. They would not be able to do that easily. Then you add in the fact that HIV doesn't have many symptoms and it is even harder. So it would not be a "single sale."

If it was a prevenative drug, then it would take years and every sexually active person worldwide would be the target market. You are talking about a massive market even if it would diminish as the virus reduced over time.

As for it going to poor Africans who can't pay fir it, there would be organizations worldwide willing to pay for it. Billions of aid has been donated just for food in that same continent.

Lastly, the unreal amount of prolonged brand recognition for the company who produces the drug would be worth just breaking even on the deal.
 
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