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RW90

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Didn't really notice it too much until I realized both halfs ended quicker than usual so I'm still on the fence. While it's nice having some games end quicker, having less football plays in the more impactful games does seem to be cheating the fans.
 
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Didn't really notice it too much until I realized both halfs ended quicker than usual so I'm still on the fence. While it's nice having some games end quicker, having less football plays in the more impactful games does seem to be cheating the fans.
Pro fans don't seem to feel cheated.
 
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New rules are a welcome addition - no reason for 4 hour games.
Here is something similar. I was at lunch a few weeks back. A colleague was complaining about the baseball pitch clock. When he attended games in the past, they were typically 3.5-4 hrs long. He was complaining that the new 2 hr 45 minute games were cheating the fans. I asked him that we liked watching another 60 minutes of nothing but players adjusting their cups, refastening their batting gloves, walking around the mound, etc. because the game is still 9 innings?
 
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While I agree with what you wrote about baseball, it isn’t really similar with cfb. In baseball you are still getting the same amount of plays, in cfb you aren’t.

I think the change will be impact the games with the more run oriented teams.
I think we tried to run it a bunch and we still ran 73 plays in the game. NW had 62.

Wisconsin and Buffalo both ran 71 plays.

Tenn ran 85 plays UVA 64

UCF ran 81 Kent St 68

These were some of the top rushing teams through week 1. So through one week, I don’t think it’s a big difference yet. Seems mostly about the same from a handful of games I checked out.
 

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After a weekend of watching a lot of college football under these new rules, my observation is not that the games are finishing earlier. Rather, the extra time created is going towards more TV commercials. As one of the tweets above mentions, TV owns college football.

Chip Kelly agrees with you:

 
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Chip Kelly agrees with you:


Maybe not letting Coastal Carolina control possession is a better way to look at it, coach. I still laugh thinking about a statuesque Nick Foles running Chip’s offense. Glad Nick eventually won his Super Bowl and he didn’t even have to run.
 
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Chip Kelly agrees with you:


Posted that in the games thread, Mack Brown wasn’t a fan either but I think all the coaches will adjust in time. UNC ran 71 plays and USCe ran 70.

Looking at it through 1 week, it doesn’t seem like a big difference yet.
 

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I think we tried to run it a bunch and we still ran 73 plays in the game. NW had 62.

Wisconsin and Buffalo both ran 71 plays.

Tenn ran 85 plays UVA 64

UCF ran 81 Kent St 68

These were some of the top rushing teams through week 1. So through one week, I don’t think it’s a big difference yet. Seems mostly about the same from a handful of games I checked out.
Saw minimal amounts of any of those specific games (which translate to congrats on RU since game wasn’t competitive enough to compel sitting in on a sunny afternoon).

I would expect teams like UCF and Tenn to still have many plays. They play at a quick pace and will have many plays to the sideline that will still temporarily pause the clock. I wouldn’t attempt at estimating an impact until seeing more games.

Was thinking of teams like Michigan.

I do know the last two nights had 7:30 games end by the 11:00 news. Last year these would have extended well beyond.
 
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Saw minimal amounts of any of those specific games (which translate to congrats on RU since game wasn’t competitive enough to compel sitting in on a sunny afternoon).

I would expect teams like UCF and Tenn to still have many plays. They play at a quick pace and will have many plays to the sideline that will still temporarily pause the clock. I wouldn’t attempt at estimating an impact until seeing more games.

Was thinking of teams like Michigan.

I do know the last two nights had 7:30 games end by the 11:00 news. Last year these would have extended well beyond.
I’d agree with the Michigan comment but how many teams run offense like that these days. Even Stanford has gone to a more tempo offense with the switch to Troy Taylor as HC. Wisconsin as well.
 

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I mean - a better way to look at a rough estimate would be to take our game and the Colorado game (high scoring) as upper and lower limits on first downs achieved.

Let’s say there’s 10 seconds run off per first down required to reset the chains. Our game had 37 first downs. The Colorado game had 57. In our game that’s 37x10 /60 = about 5 extra minutes of run off - 11ish% of total 60 min running clock. Comes to 9.5 min which would be 16ish% less clock time for the Colorado game. So figure it’s however many extra plays you might run in 5-10 minutes of clock time give or take.
 

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Seemed like a lot more full media timeouts. 45 seconds after the half or another big break there was a media timeout.
 
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Based on doing some channel flipping amongst games over the weekend, I would say they are still selling the same number of commercials for shortened game length. Could not believe how many times multiple games were in commercial simultaneously.
 
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Can someone please explain how there are more commercials? There should be the same amount or less if there are fewer scoring plays.

Where are they adding commercials to the broadcast where they weren’t under the old clock rules? How does this differ from what the NFL does?
 

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Can someone please explain how there are more commercials? There should be the same amount or less if there are fewer scoring plays.

Where are they adding commercials to the broadcast where they weren’t under the old clock rules? How does this differ from what the NFL does?
If they see someone limp off the field they take a full media time out instead of 30 seconds of extra commentary.
 

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Can someone please explain how there are more commercials? There should be the same amount or less if there are fewer scoring plays.

Where are they adding commercials to the broadcast where they weren’t under the old clock rules? How does this differ from what the NFL does?
There are less plays and the same (if not more ) amount of commercials from previous years. So you’re seeing more commercials per play seen
 

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After a weekend of watching a lot of college football under these new rules, my observation is not that the games are finishing earlier. Rather, the extra time created is going towards more TV commercials. As one of the tweets above mentions, TV owns college football.
That’s the consensus. It’s not about speeding up the game at all. It’s for more commercials. UCLA coach all over the NCAA.
 
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New clock rules seem to put more of a premium on getting an early lead and then running the ball more. If so then we played it to our advantage perfectly.
 

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There are less plays and the same (if not more ) amount of commercials from previous years. So you’re seeing more commercials per play seen
That what everyone is saying, but how are they doing that? Are they extending the length of the traditional break spots? Or are they adding new break locations where they weren’t in prior years?

I watched a few games this weekend and didn’t notice anything all that different with commercials, I did notice the games moved quicker on the whole.
 

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Was our game actually faster ? Didn’t feel like it. Maybe it was the heat. But it felt like that 2nd and 3rd qtr dragged.

These games should not be any longer than 3.5 hours MAX. Would be great if it were closer to 3 hours but it feels like 4 is more the average
 

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That what everyone is saying, but how are they doing that? Are they extending the length of the traditional break spots? Or are they adding new break locations where they weren’t in prior years?

I watched a few games this weekend and didn’t notice anything all that different with commercials, I did notice the games moved quicker on the whole.
You’re overthinking this . Less plays, same amount of commercial time at the minimum . That results in more commercials per play
 
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Here is something similar. I was at lunch a few weeks back. A colleague was complaining about the baseball pitch clock. When he attended games in the past, they were typically 3.5-4 hrs long. He was complaining that the new 2 hr 45 minute games were cheating the fans. I asked him that we liked watching another 60 minutes of nothing but players adjusting their cups, refastening their batting gloves, walking around the mound, etc. because the game is still 9 innings?
Maybe your friend doesn't want to go back home.
 

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I noticed yesterday that when we had the ball, we ran the 30 second clock down to the low single digits on nearly every play. If the clock is going to run, I'd do the same thing too to control time of possession.
 
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Leonard23

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Extremely small sample, so I'm curious to see a larger sample from a full week 1 slate.



 

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That what everyone is saying, but how are they doing that? Are they extending the length of the traditional break spots? Or are they adding new break locations where they weren’t in prior years?

I watched a few games this weekend and didn’t notice anything all that different with commercials, I did notice the games moved quicker on the whole.

An extra 30 second spot after each punt or KO. That's 15 minutes
 

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There may be less plays (slightly), but they are not then adding additional commercial breaks in conjunction with that. Virtually every game has four breaks per quarter already (in addition to the breaks between quarters). The length of those breaks have always varied… typically between 2:20ish to as high as 3:55ish, depending on which network is airing the game and other factors.

That did not change. So yes, maybe less plays, but no, not more commercials. Anyone saying that they changed the clock rules to fit in more commercials is just flat out wrong - it makes zero sense. They changed the clock rules because games are exorbitantly long - longer than NFL games, and that largely doesn’t reflect today’s viewing habits.
 

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An extra 30 second spot after each punt or KO. That's 15 minutes
Networks have long been able to add in “floater” breaks at their own risk (because the refs won’t hold the restart of play until the network comes back). This isn’t new.
 

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Here is something similar. I was at lunch a few weeks back. A colleague was complaining about the baseball pitch clock. When he attended games in the past, they were typically 3.5-4 hrs long. He was complaining that the new 2 hr 45 minute games were cheating the fans. I asked him that we liked watching another 60 minutes of nothing but players adjusting their cups, refastening their batting gloves, walking around the mound, etc. because the game is still 9 innings?
Probably because he wanted to knock down two more beers
 
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All the TV dollars have to be paid for in one of two ways - More commercials, pay for premium channels. There was never an end-around on this. I can live with the commercials - they are what they are. But even a 3-minute reduction in game time is welcome.
 

ScarletKid2008

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College football has and keeps pushing fans past their own good to make more money. It’s basically an experiment of how much can they amend a great product to squeeze every last dollar out of it.
 
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In my utopia they'd simply have been forced to be more forthright, and reduced the quarters to 13 minutes each. It's the same result. (Less football action per hour of clock time. And more commercials.)