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SkiSkiSki

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If the search is as bad as being reported then he should absolutely hire Terry. That said unless he has someone who's hiding in the shadows for some reason

It's hard to believe Pat didn't have a better plan. If you're going to fire small game James then you have to be prepared with an available coach. Just as with playing availability is the most important thing. We can want a coach all day long but if he's not available and willing who cares.
Pat has done a horrendous job with this search and has made us a laughingstock. And maybe it was best to fire small game James at the end of the year. We should have let him shrivel up the rest of the year and then fired him I guess.
The issue with that is word getting out before you lock down your hire while your existing coach is still employed. You would eliminate any client of Sexton unless you don't care that BGJ knows you are going to fire him and that you are seeking potential replacements before you actually do fire him. If you want it to be a wide open search then you have to fire the existing coach first.
 
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Bvillebaron

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Things can always be worse. We could be Virginia Tech. Those poor bastards don’t know what they are in for.
Yeah conference championships and playoff appearances. Those poor bastards. Meanwhile, Krafty just you know what away virtually an entire high school recruiting class because of his incompetence. Last I checked it’s really hard t win those Big and National Championships Krafty promised with a roster full of walk ons.
 
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mfb5053

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Not to mention that it's illegal for an agent to turn down an offer for his client (a massive breach of Fiduciary Obligation especially if the offer being scuttled by the agent is more financially valuable than the one being rubber-stamped by the agent). Huge illegal breach of Fiduciary Obligations and professional ethics
Right but it’s not hard for Sexton to present PSU’s offer to one of his clients and explain to his client why PSU might not be a great fit. Then they use the PSU offer as leverage.
 
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SRURock24

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Oh give me a break, Campbell is not going to be that disinterested when his compensation is being doubled! Give me an f'ing break.
This is the exact folly of Kraft’s search. In the modern NIL era schools like Iowa State with donors, TV $, etc. can shell out more $ to retain their coach. You can’t out $ lower level Power 4 schools like 10 years ago. That’s why guys like Golesh, Sumrall, Silverfield and Stein got Power 4 jobs
 

Bvillebaron

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Penn State and we as Penn State fans to some degree refused to manage our realistic expectations. A program which hasn’t won a National Championship in 40 years now became National Championship is the expectation. Now what you’ve seen transpire over the last 53 days is the market recalibrating those expectations for us whether we like it or not. The next Head Coach will be the what 12 or 13th option, we’ll have to portal in a ton of guys this year. All signs lead to stopping the hemorrhaging not winning a national championship. LSU didn’t lose a single recruit and got their number one choice of coach now compare that Penn State. How we as fans viewed our program nationally and how the rest of the country to include recruits and coaches are obviously vastly different.
I think it’s becoming clear that Kraft over valued the brand and Penn State’s ability to “recruit itself”.
 

OUIrPSU

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Yeah, Sitake never passed the smell test for me either. The ultimate question will be whether he was a smokescreen or a Hail Mary.
Maybe Kraft hasn’t made any offers yet. Maybe he’s made a dozen offers that have all been turned down. Maybe we’ve had a coach locked up for weeks and are waiting for this weekend to conclude. Maybe we have nobody in place and are completely screwed. The bottom line is we have zero idea - ZERO - about anything that has actually transpired up to this point, regardless of what anyone in the media - or on this board - says.
 

Bvillebaron

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Oh give me a break, Campbell is not going to be that disinterested when his compensation is being doubled! Give me an f'ing break.
Or maybe he could parlay that into a big raise and long term extension like several other coaching targets. Saw where someone reported that Kraft earned other coaches $370 million dollars in raises. Let’s go for at least 400 no?
 
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Zone-Blitz

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Maybe Kraft hasn’t made any offers yet. Maybe he’s made a dozen offers that have all been turned down. Maybe we’ve had a coach locked up for weeks and are waiting for this weekend to conclude. Maybe we have nobody in place and are completely screwed. The bottom line is we have zero idea - ZERO - about anything that has actually transpired up to this point, regardless of what anyone in the media - or on this board - says.
Yes we do know what has transpired. Signing day has come and gone with no coach and 2 recruits. Your list of maybes are no longer relevant.
 

OUIrPSU

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Never passed the sniff test for me either, but if all that was made up or overstated then I am at a complete loss as to what Kraft has been doing.
I think we’re all at a total loss as to what Kraft has been doing. And that is the problem! We, as humans, want answers and without any official statements from Penn State will seek them out and fill in the narrative with whatever meets our own biases and perceptions. Over time, it becomes our reality, regardless of how wrong we might have been.
 

GreyFox73

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I’ve been following psu boards for years but I never post anything. I just heard something on the Sirius XM college football show, which I’ve been listening to intently all week, that made me chuckle.
Rick Neuheisel literally just said he’s so frustrated with the Psu coaching situation, that he’s about ready to jump in his car, drive to happy valley, ask for an emergency meeting with PK and say (verbatim)“Pat, let me do this. I can help get you out of this position you’re in. I got this thing.”

Dead serious. After all the play he’s got on these boards over the years, wouldn’t that be the most epic and comical outcome that could ever be imagined in this situation? Can someone who lives in town start canvassing the Tavern over the next couple days just to see if this has legs?
😂😂😂
 

Anon1764700013

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This is the exact folly of Kraft’s search. In the modern NIL era schools like Iowa State with donors, TV $, etc. can shell out more $ to retain their coach. You can’t out $ lower level Power 4 schools like 10 years ago. That’s why guys like Golesh, Sumrall, Silverfield and Stein got Power 4 jobs
Campbell only makes $4 million a year though
 

PSU4U

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Yes thanks for the catch.
Yes we do know what has transpired. Signing day has come and gone with no coach and 2 recruits. Your list of maybes are no longer relevant.
Got this in my email from a friend.
Everyone should watch this especially the Boo Hoo Franklin was wronged crowd and anyone seriously interested in what's left of this search.

 

Bvillebaron

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Maybe Kraft hasn’t made any offers yet. Maybe he’s made a dozen offers that have all been turned down. Maybe we’ve had a coach locked up for weeks and are waiting for this weekend to conclude. Maybe we have nobody in place and are completely screwed. The bottom line is we have zero idea - ZERO - about anything that has actually transpired up to this point, regardless of what anyone in the media - or on this board - says.
Except we do know that Kraft was unable to hire a new coach before yesterday’s signing date despite having more than 50 days to do so and despite the fact that several coaches whose teams are in the playoffs (Kiffin, Stein and Hartline) have been hired by other schools.
 

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I’ve been following psu boards for years but I never post anything. I just heard something on the Sirius XM college football show, which I’ve been listening to intently all week, that made me chuckle.
Rick Neuheisel literally just said he’s so frustrated with the Psu coaching situation, that he’s about ready to jump in his car, drive to happy valley, ask for an emergency meeting with PK and say (verbatim)“Pat, let me do this. I can help get you out of this position you’re in. I got this thing.”

Dead serious. After all the play he’s got on these boards over the years, wouldn’t that be the most epic and comical outcome that could ever be imagined in this situation? Can someone who lives in town start canvassing the Tavern over the next couple days just to see if this has legs?
😂😂😂
That would be hilarious. Does his son come with him? 🤪🤣
 

EricLAllen

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I just wonder if they will give Campbell any consideration. This thing looks like they're conducting a bunch of fake interviews to ultimately give it to some friend and that this won't be based on qualifications. Shady as hell. At this point I just wonder who the friend is.
 

OUIrPSU

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Yes we do know what has transpired. Signing day has come and gone with no coach and 2 recruits. Your list of maybes are no longer relevant.
OK, then tell us without mentioning one media personality or college football analyst.

I think you’re conflating the current status of things - which sucks - with how we got here. But most of us are, too.
 

MtNittany

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Please stop with the excusing Kraft by blaming Sexton nonsense. I never knew an agent who gets a percentage of his client’s contract to tell his client (who last I checked still has the final say as to where he goes) who told his client to take less money or an inferior job because he was pissed at how the firing of another of his clients was handled.
How many big time college football coach agents do you know?
 

psu83

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Yeah conference championships and playoff appearances. Those poor bastards. Meanwhile, Krafty just you know what away virtually an entire high school recruiting class because of his incompetence. Last I checked it’s really hard t win those Big and National Championships Krafty promised with a roster full of walk ons.
Maybe you should change your name to Nostradamus as you see all these Virginia Tech triumphs in their future.
 

stater02

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I’ve been following psu boards for years but I never post anything. I just heard something on the Sirius XM college football show, which I’ve been listening to intently all week, that made me chuckle.
Rick Neuheisel literally just said he’s so frustrated with the Psu coaching situation, that he’s about ready to jump in his car, drive to happy valley, ask for an emergency meeting with PK and say (verbatim)“Pat, let me do this. I can help get you out of this position you’re in. I got this thing.”

Dead serious. After all the play he’s got on these boards over the years, wouldn’t that be the most epic and comical outcome that could ever be imagined in this situation? Can someone who lives in town start canvassing the Tavern over the next couple days just to see if this has legs?
😂😂😂

I’ll make the Tavern reservation for 6pm this evening!
 

SRURock24

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Except we do know that Kraft was unable to hire a new coach before yesterday’s signing date despite having more than 50 days to do so and despite the fact that several coaches whose teams are in the playoffs (Kiffin, Stein and Hartline) have been hired by other schools.
I know nothing about being an athletic director. But the maddening thing is I have zero doubt that if you gave me 52 days and millions of dollars to offer I could have had a coach in place a couple of weeks ago. Maybe it wouldn’t have worked out in the long run but I would have hired a decent guy.
 
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Anon1764700013

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Campbell would be a steal! Double his salary, import his team, problem solved for the short term and probably could give us a nice run of success, potentially eclipsing Franklin's tenure, which is the aim. I'd do it if I had the power, based on all else that seems available. Unless it's Deboer or Freeman, I think Campbell or Diaz make the most sense since they can take some roster with them. Daboll would be at least someone in the role, and I am not out on him as a coach, but I think it's less strategic since he can't take players along.
 
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SRURock24

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And Iowa St athletic department has structural budget deficits. I would say that we would have a very good chance of landing him versus other candidates. Even. Krafty the buffoon would have a hard time messing this up.
Once again I pray you are right. With Kraft I have no confidence though.
 
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Ram20

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If the search is as bad as being reported then he should absolutely hire Terry. That said unless he has someone who's hiding in the shadows for some reason

It's hard to believe Pat didn't have a better plan. If you're going to fire small game James then you have to be prepared with an available coach. Just as with playing availability is the most important thing. We can want a coach all day long but if he's not available and willing who cares.
Pat has done a horrendous job with this search and has made us a laughingstock. And maybe it was best to fire small game James at the end of the year. We should have let him shrivel up the rest of the year and then fired him I guess.
Right, but we'd be on the hook for the buyout. I have serious doubts VT hires him after he goes 5-7 and gets in scraps all season. Firing franklin when he did, preserving Franklin's image, and negotiating a massive buyout reduction was the one thing kraft got right.
 

OUIrPSU

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Except we do know that Kraft was unable to hire a new coach before yesterday’s signing date despite having more than 50 days to do so and despite the fact that several coaches whose teams are in the playoffs (Kiffin, Stein and Hartline) have been hired by other schools.
But we don’t. How do we know Kraft didn’t hire a coach weeks ago and is waiting to announce it? We don’t.

Once again, I feel compelled to say that I am in no way defending him or agree with how this process is progressing.

All I’m saying is we don’t yet know all the facts.
 

Phlebitis

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The issue with that is word getting out before you lock down your hire while your existing coach is still employed. You would eliminate any client of Sexton unless you don't care that BGJ knows you are going to fire him and that you are seeking potential replacements before you actually do fire him. If you want it to be a wide open search then you have to fire the existing coach first.
Did you miss the "stop making sense" post in the other thread?
 
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247's Pod from last night is worth the listen - Tyler Donahue has kind of led the charge from the PSU insider perspective. It seems the 247 guys have had a closer set of sources vs everywhere else.

Kraft kicked the tires of all the big names - Elko had the most genuine interest but ultimately said "no." Deboer's agent kept him in play, but they've heard more recently that it was probably more for getting the most out of his bama contract.

Kraft always liked Sitake and they had been in discussions for "weeks."

As of Sunday, Kraft and Sitake had a handshake agreement and Sitake just needed to sign. Sounds like Sitake was ready verbally committed. It was kept completely quiet. Story got leaked and BYU went hard to keep him. Biggest mistake being that Kraft didn't have him sign the contract before the leak.

Chesney was plan B. Chesney wanted it and was even holding out for the PSU offer. Even to the point that insiders believe he had UCLA on hold "for weeks". He eventually got wind of being plan B, became annoyed with being dragged along by Kraft. Took the UCLA job and has since said good riddance to Kraft. Absolutely no chance of turning this one back in our favor.

Nobody knows where to go from here. Brohm wasn't really in consideration anymore, even though he got an extension yesterday. Daboll is the only option anyone even knows about at this point. Kraft doesn't like the idea because he doesn't bring a college roster and/or recruits with him.

Insiders believe this will drag into the next two weeks - now that we're at this point, might as well see who's interested after championship games and playoffs. There are no known candidates of interest at this point. The 247 crew thinks Kraft is going to try like hell to pull a rabbit out his hat, because his job is on the line. We're completely resetting the board.

Terry Smith is still not getting much consideration. And at this point, if Kraft hired him, Kraft would probably be expecting to get fired. A new AD would then evaluate and address the situation after next Fall. Kraft has always looked at Smith as "Chief of Staff" for the next guy. There is some worry that Smith feels disrespected and could walk.

Just my opinion, throw everything and the kitchen sink at Matt Campbell. An offer he can't decline. An offer ISU can't even imagine countering. Give him everything and more from a resource perspective and let him do his thing with evaluations and Xs & Os. This is our last resort at this point. The Terry Smith/new AD idea just resets this process to next season with a new AD.
 

DaytonRickster

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Campbell would be a steal! Double his salary, import his team, problem solved for the short term and probably could give us a nice run of success, potentially eclipsing Franklin's tenure, which is the aim. I'd do it if I had the power, based on all else that seems available. Unless it's Deboer or Freeman, I think Campbell or Diaz make the most sense since they can take some roster with them. Daboll would be at least someone in the role, and I am not out on him as a coach, but I think it's less strategic since he can't take players along.
No to Daboll.
 

doctornick

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I think it’s becoming clear that Kraft over valued the brand and Penn State’s ability to “recruit itself”.

I think that is almost certainly true, but (if so) it should have become evident weeks ago and he should have had plenty of time to pivot to a more realistic candidate and get everything squared away. Its great if he tried to get Meyer or Freeman or DeBoer but if you learn that isn't happening then you move on to what you can do.

I'm sure that, for example, Florida came to a similar conclusion about who they could draw in and so they went with Sumrall rather than do something idiotic like go into signing day without naming a coach.
 

Anon1764700013

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247's Pod from last night is worth the listen - Tyler Donahue has kind of led the charge from the PSU insider perspective. It seems the 247 guys have had a closer set of sources vs everywhere else.

Kraft kicked the tires of all the big names - Elko had the most genuine interest but ultimately said "no." Deboer's agent kept him in play, but they've heard more recently that it was probably more for getting the most out of his bama contract.

Kraft always liked Sitake and they had been in discussions for "weeks."

As of Sunday, Kraft and Sitake had a handshake agreement and Sitake just needed to sign. Sounds like Sitake was ready verbally committed. It was kept completely quiet. Story got leaked and BYU went hard to keep him. Biggest mistake being that Kraft didn't have him sign the contract before the leak.

Chesney was plan B. Chesney wanted it and was even holding out for the PSU offer. Even to the point that insiders believe he had UCLA on hold "for weeks". He eventually got wind of being plan B, became annoyed with being dragged along by Kraft. Took the UCLA job and has since said good riddance to Kraft. Absolutely no chance of turning this one back in our favor.

Nobody knows where to go from here. Brohm wasn't really in consideration anymore, even though he got an extension yesterday. Daboll is the only option anyone even knows about at this point. Kraft doesn't like the idea because he doesn't bring a college roster and/or recruits with him.

Insiders believe this will drag into the next two weeks - now that we're at this point, might as well see who's interested after championship games and playoffs. There are no known candidates of interest at this point. The 247 crew thinks Kraft is going to try like hell to pull a rabbit out his hat, because his job is on the line. We're completely resetting the board.

Terry Smith is still not getting much consideration. And at this point, if Kraft hired him, Kraft would probably be expecting to get fired. A new AD would then evaluate and address the situation after next Fall. Kraft has always looked at Smith as "Chief of Staff" for the next guy. There is some worry that Smith feels disrespected and could walk.

Just my opinion, throw everything and the kitchen sink at Matt Campbell. An offer he can't decline. An offer ISU can't even imagine countering. Give him everything and more from a resource perspective and let him do his thing with evaluations and Xs & Os. This is our last resort at this point. The Terry Smith/new AD idea just resets this process to next season with a new AD.
This is a great post.
 

PSU4U

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247's Pod from last night is worth the listen - Tyler Donahue has kind of led the charge from the PSU insider perspective. It seems the 247 guys have had a closer set of sources vs everywhere else.

Kraft kicked the tires of all the big names - Elko had the most genuine interest but ultimately said "no." Deboer's agent kept him in play, but they've heard more recently that it was probably more for getting the most out of his bama contract.

Kraft always liked Sitake and they had been in discussions for "weeks."

As of Sunday, Kraft and Sitake had a handshake agreement and Sitake just needed to sign. Sounds like Sitake was ready verbally committed. It was kept completely quiet. Story got leaked and BYU went hard to keep him. Biggest mistake being that Kraft didn't have him sign the contract before the leak.

Chesney was plan B. Chesney wanted it and was even holding out for the PSU offer. Even to the point that insiders believe he had UCLA on hold "for weeks". He eventually got wind of being plan B, became annoyed with being dragged along by Kraft. Took the UCLA job and has since said good riddance to Kraft. Absolutely no chance of turning this one back in our favor.

Nobody knows where to go from here. Brohm wasn't really in consideration anymore, even though he got an extension yesterday. Daboll is the only option anyone even knows about at this point. Kraft doesn't like the idea because he doesn't bring a college roster and/or recruits with him.

Insiders believe this will drag into the next two weeks - now that we're at this point, might as well see who's interested after championship games and playoffs. There are no known candidates of interest at this point. The 247 crew thinks Kraft is going to try like hell to pull a rabbit out his hat, because his job is on the line. We're completely resetting the board.

Terry Smith is still not getting much consideration. And at this point, if Kraft hired him, Kraft would probably be expecting to get fired. A new AD would then evaluate and address the situation after next Fall. Kraft has always looked at Smith as "Chief of Staff" for the next guy. There is some worry that Smith feels disrespected and could walk.

Just my opinion, throw everything and the kitchen sink at Matt Campbell. An offer he can't decline. An offer ISU can't even imagine countering. Give him everything and more from a resource perspective and let him do his thing with evaluations and Xs & Os. This is our last resort at this point. The Terry Smith/new AD idea just resets this process to next season with a new AD.
Kraft will NOT hire Campbell even if Campbell is seriously interested and I hope I'm wrong, but Kraft will never hire Terry Smith. To get Smith someone will have to fire Kraft, on that note I expect Kraft to be gone in May 2026 as people seem to be lining up to buyout his contract. At this point no matter what Kraft does, I think he's toast as in dead man walking for his job at PS.
 
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