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At this point give me Drink or go with Chesney. Never thought we would make an apparent home run hire. Hopefully the double hire turns out to be a home run.
Yep, it was all a huge fantasy that we would get one of the three SEC playoff coaches. People will blame Kraft but the new playoff schedule is not conducive to hiring a tier your coach and quite frankly, we are overestimating our ability to compete on salary. I’ve said the whole time it would be a best of the rest non-playoff coach. I’m relatively happy if this works out:
If you want to die on that hill, then sure. You win. Franklin is gone. Paterno is gone. Can we all agree to stop looking backwards now?
Sure.
But the convo draws from my discussion with another person, not the user I’m disagreeing with. He chimed in on that, talk to him.
Golesh was reported by several to be an actual candidate at PSU (and Florida), but USF is losing to Navy thus far. Our horrendous luck during our own season is poisoning our coaching candidates as well. 
At this point, it looks like Drink is in the lead at PSU. Based on what Tengwell said a few weeks ago, there is some interest in Diaz as well. Key is still working to a degree as well as a candidate. From other sources it looks like Hartline is super interested, but there’s real hesitancy on our side to give it to him with zero experience. OSU itself has been very slow to give him more duties at the coordinator level.
At this point, it looks like Drink is in the lead at PSU. Based on what Tengwell said a few weeks ago, there is some interest in Diaz as well. Key is still working to a degree as well as a candidate. From other sources it looks like Hartline is super interested, but there’s real hesitancy on our side to give it to him with zero experience. OSU itself has been very slow to give him more duties at the coordinator level.
It’s ok, even the ones who seem to have leveraged for extensions are losing too. Brohm last night and Elko today down 17.Golesh was reported by several to be an actual candidate at PSU (and Florida), but USF is losing to Navy thus far. Our horrendous luck during our own season is poisoning our coaching candidates as well.
At this point, it looks like Drink is in the lead at PSU. Based on what Tengwell said a few weeks ago, there is some interest in Diaz as well. Key is still working to a degree as well as a candidate. From other sources it looks like Hartline is super interested, but there’s real hesitancy on our side to give it to him with zero experience. OSU itself has been very slow to give him more duties at the coordinator level.
Will he be coaching from a blacked out box during the BW game or disguised like the masked magician on the sideline?
As long as Franklin is gone and it not Rhule its a win. Who is Franklin going to cry about not playing every year at V-tech Virginia and UNC?
You think Eli Drinkwitz is an upgrade from James Franklin?
I’m willing to bet Kraft and Drinkwitz are both fired within 3-4 years.
Is that why they are losing? He’s in an office somewhere signing papers while his team is playing?
I’d be happy with him, but not totally overjoyed. In the SEC Missouri is historically at a level of a Purdue or Minnesota. What he has done there has been pretty amazing. Yes he has a similar poor record verse elite teams, but I think he would do much better here with more resources and a different conference.
Texas A&M is getting absolutely smoked right now.
If that extension is not signed yet, the value of that extension may be less given this performance.
I think Terry Smith is an upgrade over Franklin, just needs an OC and JK to simplify the Defense.
Sure as soon as the haters stop beating the dead Franklin horse. I am taking a wait and see attitude to the new hire but Kraft put himself on the spot with his comments about why he fired Franklin. I listened to his conference where he went on and on about the qualities the new head coach will have. The only thing he left out was walks on water.
Does anyone else not really give a damn who they hire? The whole thing is a crapshoot. Some candidates appear good, some don't
What's his record against top 10 teams. I'll hang up and listen to your response.
Stole this from another poster in a previous thread
Someone on BSD did an interesting statistical analysis on talent vs winning percentage by all head coaches over the past 10 years. The list below (and also at the link provided) shows WET values (Wins Exceeding Talent) for all notable coaches. Not perfectly apples to apples for everybody but still an interesting comparison. The original BSD post is at the link so you can read about how the numbers were calculated. From highest to lowest WET and WET per 12 game average:
Someone on BSD did an interesting statistical analysis on talent vs winning percentage by all head coaches over the past 10 years. The list below (and also at the link provided) shows WET values (Wins Exceeding Talent) for all notable coaches. Not perfectly apples to apples for everybody but still an interesting comparison. The original BSD post is at the link so you can read about how the numbers were calculated. From highest to lowest WET and WET per 12 game average:
- Kirk Ferentz 26.20 2.44
- Nick Saban 19.57 1.99
- Dabo Swinney 17.44 1.53
- Curt Cignetti 16.45 6.37
- Lane Kiffin 15.78 1.84
- Matt Campbell 14.70 1.40
- Kirby Smart 14.69 1.45
- Eli Drinkwitz 13.84 2.18
- Jeff Brohm 11.21 1.33
- Brian Kelly 10.29 1.04
- Lincoln Reilly 8.59 0.95
- Billy Napier 8.01 1.07
- Mike Elko 7.13 1.94
- James Franklin 6.49 0.60
- Bob Chesney 6.05 4.03
- Brent Key 4.37 1.34
- Marcus Freeman 3.57 0.95
- Matt Rhule 0.69 0.09
- Kenny Dillingham -0.13 - 0.05
- Manny Diaz -0.22 -0.05
- Alex Golesh -0.61 -0.33
- Sean Lewis -1.48 -0.27
- Clark Lea -2.13 -0.49
- Brent Pry -4.90 - 1.51
- Mike Norvell -5.05 - 0.96
- Jimbo Fisher -5.07 -0.61
That’s where I’m at.
Good coaches out there who could win at Penn State, good ones who would win there less than others, etc.
Total crapshoot. But it will be interesting this offseason and then next year, that’s for sure.
Stupid post. He’s never coached at a program that can attract talent like PSUWhat's his record against top 10 teams. I'll hang up and listen to your response.
and see my post above regarding how well he has done relative to talent on his roster