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I assume he means, in order to make the playoff, Tulane has to lose since it's ahead of JMU right now.
Do you personally know him? Why are you so passionate about Bob Chesney? Genuinely curious, not trying to argue.
Here's to hoping it's over. But I think they are still working out the details so again I'm not seeing an announcement this week. I hope I'm wrong on that and the others are right because I've tired of the chase..
What kind of signals... Enquiring minds want to know...
It will be nuts between now and December 1. Will probably hear other names as well. There looks like there is actual mutual interest coming back from Debeor, much more tangible than there was from Elko before he he came to new terms with TX AM. Not an insider, but reading insiders from various sources out there today.
So which of you guys will be posting up at the SC airport tonight? We anxiously await your report.
Hartline has never been a Head Coach - that's a massive risk right there. There is a huge difference between being a successful HC and a successful Position Coach (which is what Hartline is - he's a partial OC this year, not even a full OC). For instance, the claim about being a great recruiter - big difference between essentially selling yourself when you have zero track record as a HC and selling Ohio State and Urban Myer. Two very different things.
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You have get on those insider boards. This is the first time I actually believe it may not be Drink, Hartline, et al. But other names may pop up too, a lot of people have been saying that the final week of the season is the homestretch and we will be getting information fast and furious.
The Bama board calls him Mark Richt, says he won't get Bama where they want to be. I'm still too pessimistic to expect anything other than him staying there and us hoping not to end up with Fitzgerald or Al Golden.
Stats 101.
6-6 is the MOST likely outcome. Half the D1 coaches will actually average 6-6 or WORSE.
After a whole year and a half?
But people on this board say PSU fans are toxic for giving CJF a decade.
Is this even real? Look at flightaware.com NetJets EJA534 - leaves Teterboro at 5:00, arrives KUNV 5:50. Leaves KUNV 9:18 arrives Cincinnati 10:30.
Joe Paterno was never a Head Coach before PSU either.
That's Bama for ya.
I'm thinking DeBoer would like to get out of that pressure cooker, and the Bama fans would be thrilled. And Penn State would get a "home run" hire. Wins all the way around!
Welcome to the Chesney train. I have been saying look what he did after Cignetti poached all those JMU players. He can obviously coach & motivate. I believe with PSU brand behind him he will recruit at a high level. He has recruiting contacts in VA, MD. DC, NJ, NC, SC, GA, DE, Florida, Texas, and NE.
Yeah, and they weren't paying JVP $10 million a year either. For the amout PSU is going to pay, you hire someone with a known HC trackrecord. You don't take a flier on someone who is in their first year as "Co-Coordinator".
And the team was not making hundreds of millions either. Joe averaged 9-3 a season for his career in an era when Pennsylvania was producing the third most NFL players. Now the state is in the range of 10-15 and and dropping. Ohio produces about twice as many players.
Chesney is Catholic, of Lithuanian descent and from PA coal country. Looks the part too. (The wife said he is by far the best-looking candidate!) What's not to like?
Bob Chesney - Wikipedia
Bob Chesney - Wikipedia
I really don't get this admiration for Chesney. He's from PA--okay but so what? Is it that and the JMU factor? Cignetti had 15+ years of P4 experience and 10+ years of HC experience before the Indy job. Chesney rebuilt a Sun Belt team to be great in the SUN BELT conference and has ZERO P4 experience. Would there be interest if this had the same resume but wasnt from PA and was having FBS success at another Sun Belt school?
I'd rather have a coordinator from a big-time school as a first-time HC than a G5 HC with 2 years of success. Lanning, Smart, Day, Vernables, Swinney, and others seem like a better model than a G5 HC with 2-4 years of success. How did it work out for Norvell/FSU, Napier/UF, Frost/Neb?
C’mon man! We averaged more wins than that with Jay Paterno as our CO-Offensive Coordinator and Passing Game Coordinator.
This has zero chances of happening which is fine because I'm no fan of Mike Tomlin but...
I honestly think if Tomlin said he's had enough of pro ball and wants to go to Penn State, for the first few years, I think he would kill it at recruiting and transfer portal. Media, parents, recruits would eat up his spiel and Tomlin-isms. On the field would be a different story but if he recruited at the level of Bama, Georgia, and OSU, he'd probably out-talent 80% of the opponents.
I think after a few years, folks would realize his spiel is just a mash-mash of machismo and he has no actual game-day coach chops, fans would get frustrated, and they'd be a constant 7-5 or 8-4 team but for the first few years, it would be interesting.
I honestly think if Tomlin said he's had enough of pro ball and wants to go to Penn State, for the first few years, I think he would kill it at recruiting and transfer portal. Media, parents, recruits would eat up his spiel and Tomlin-isms. On the field would be a different story but if he recruited at the level of Bama, Georgia, and OSU, he'd probably out-talent 80% of the opponents.
I think after a few years, folks would realize his spiel is just a mash-mash of machismo and he has no actual game-day coach chops, fans would get frustrated, and they'd be a constant 7-5 or 8-4 team but for the first few years, it would be interesting.
Joes career average was 9-3.
The next coach will not have Joe, Joe'ss OL, Joe's RBs or Joe's Defense.
Most likely the next coach will be a notch below joe.
I really like this post, especially the allusion to risk. The biggest deterrent to risk taking is fear of failure. I have witnessed "fear of failure" stifle good organizations but it is very difficult to overcome. It requires a delicate balance between "rewarding" failure and recklessness. Take risks, and if you fail, start over and move on. The problem is this. What is Penn State's level of "fear of failure" and will it impede the search?
I'm not related to Chesney 
. I just like him and believe he's the best fit for us. I don't believe we need a name, I believe we need a coach. We already had a name, and that was James Franklin. I'm ready to have a football coach now, for the first time since probably the 1980s and Joe. By the way, when Joe was hired he wasn't a name either. We already have a name and that name is Penn State. Penn State needs a young, capable, hungry, professional, passionate man who knows the game of football, and after 12 years of that snake oil salesman blabbering about "it starts with I love you", I want a guy that says "it starts with kicking some ***"
. I just like him and believe he's the best fit for us. I don't believe we need a name, I believe we need a coach. We already had a name, and that was James Franklin. I'm ready to have a football coach now, for the first time since probably the 1980s and Joe. By the way, when Joe was hired he wasn't a name either. We already have a name and that name is Penn State. Penn State needs a young, capable, hungry, professional, passionate man who knows the game of football, and after 12 years of that snake oil salesman blabbering about "it starts with I love you", I want a guy that says "it starts with kicking some ***" Let's also remember that Bill O'Brien took what should have been an 11-1 team and came out and lost to Ohio University and Virginia. We have lost many recruits for next season but IF we hire the right man, I think we can keep the roster together for the most part. Have you seen next year's schedule? If we can just keep it together and hit the portal hard with a real coach who knows how to use it, then damn right we can do better than 6-6
The one thing Nittany Lion fans should never ever worry about, are the likes of Rhule, Fitzgerald, or Golden becoming head coach of our football program. It’s kind of crazy to even mention those guys at this point.
I'm not related to Chesney
Snake oil salesman didn't lose to App State and Georgia Southern like Chesney.
I'm not related to Chesney
You wonder what the difference is today versus when Urban Meyer left Bowling Green for Utah and then to Florida after one good year? Guys at smaller programs haven’t done as well lately when making the move - Cignetti a big exception so far.
Thank you!!
I really have a few feelings.
1. We have all been played and Kraft has had his guy since day 1 and kept the best secret in town. It is someone that maybe publically said no or was never ever mentioned. (Urban Meyer, Lincoln Riley)
2. It is and wlays has been Matt Ruhle and everything was a smoke screen.
3. It was the Alabama Guy after they didn't look good, but since then they have done way better, and now he has cold feet.
4. He really has struck out and is now down to Terry (which as you can tell has grown on me) or Chesney (which again I could live with)
5. I don't think for a minute that Drink, Lea, or Key were ever serious contenders.
Where does that leave us? In pure hell
Does Chesney keep Terry. Under no circumstance can PSU allow Terry to go to VA Tech. The optics of that alone would be a killer in recruiting and with the former players.