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I heard on the 247 podcast that there is no confirmation from Tech insiders about reciprocal interest from Key. I don't think it is him.

The most realistic candidates are Chesney, Drinkwitz and Lea. Perhaps in that order.

And not in a good way...
 

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Wow, Hack goes on record and says "I know for a fact" that Urban was close to a down deal a few weeks back and it fell through.
Also, FWIW, the Deboer stuff seems to have slowed down today. Seems to be more based off of if he loses to coach-less Auburn.

Starting to really feel like Kraft is bumbling through this thing...
If Kraft was close to hiring Urbs and blew the deal, then yeah, I think Kraft will follow Franklin out the door sooner rather than later, unless he can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

 
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Jon Sauber and Audrey Snyder on their podcast - their rankings:

1a - Marcus Freeman
1b - Kalen DeBoer
2 - Brent Key
3 - Bob Chesney

I'm told Chesney is another CEO type, so not sure I want that. I want someone who is a strategist/play caller. Freeman also a CEO type and really, he's not leaving ND. So, DeBoer and Key would be my top two but I'd still be in for Chesney if he's the guy.

Do you want Chesney or not?
 

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Yes. Misery can be a huge motivator to leave a good job.
The people postulating that simply don't understand the dynamics of coaching at this level. This is only his second year he is being paid exceptionally well, has a class with 9 top 100 players coming in and he still controls his own destiny to the playoffs
 

JVP_Yahweh

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Ahh. The 1950’s and 60’s mentality. Seems about right.
Not at all. It's more the case of normal folks not really understanding how things work for the top 0.001% of wage earners who are highly ambitious and successful people. Do you really believe that Meyer's wife had much say in him moving from place to place to get to the top? A coach and his wife are a team. He has a role and she has a role and they both get a ton of help to manage family things that other couples can't afford. The women that marry guys like this understand and accept it
 

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Yikes, seems like the Deboer stuff is some made up BS or a agent jockeying.

Well, Pat, you had a nice run here but this looks like the beginning of the end of your time.

EDIT: Bama insiders are saying it's BS as well.
 
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JVP_Yahweh

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Wow, Hack goes on record and says "I know for a fact" that Urban was close to a down deal a few weeks back and it fell through.
Also, FWIW, the Deboer stuff seems to have slowed down today. Seems to be more based off of if he loses to coach-less Auburn.

Starting to really feel like Kraft is bumbling through this thing...
I think Hack is either looking for clicks or just misinformed about what Kraft and Urban were discussing. It's far more likely that Urban was being consulted as to who Kraft may want to focus on. Urban basically said the Yahoo story was completely fabricated
 

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Not at all. It's more the case of normal folks not really understanding how things work for the top 0.001% of wage earners who are highly ambitious and successful people. Do you really believe that Meyer's wife had much say in him moving from place to place to get to the top? A coach and his wife are a team. He has a role and she has a role and they both get a ton of help to manage family things that other couples can't afford. The women that marry guys like this understand and accept it
Thanks Archie Bunker.
 

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Living in a Southern college town probably is better for one's mental health than living in some major city cess pool.
For some. Obviously for others it's better living in major cities. Otherwise there wouldn't be any major cities :cool:.

We keep talking about why certain coaches wouldn't want the Penn State job, but it's pure speculation because nobody here as ANY idea what each individual coach's motivations are.
 
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For some. Obviously for others it's better living in major cities. Otherwise there wouldn't be any major cities :cool:.

We keep talking about why certain coaches wouldn't want the Penn State job, but it's pure speculation because nobody here as ANY idea what each individual coach's motivations are.
This^^^

Plus, now apparently we can speculate as to what the coaches wives motivations are and their likes and dislikes (or at least what they should be in a subservient way). For the first and last time ever, I agree with Jumba. It’s time to nuke this dumpster fire
 
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This guy’s knowledge of Dayton, Ohio checks out.

I’m assuming you are a big fan of Michael Jack Schmidt
Of course. I grew up in Suburban Philadelphia but retired from the USAF here in the Dayton area (Beavercreek). Wright-Patterson AFB (outside of Dayton) was my last duty assignment.
Schmidt and one of the all-time great Olympians, Edwin Moses were both from Dayton. College football hall of fame and former Eagles RB Keith Byers also from Dayton and Kirk Herbstreit (ABC Football color commentator) is from Centerville (Dayton burb)
 
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Both. Franklin plateaued and has done sever damage to the program’s mental and physical toughness. Evidence? Record in big games (historically one of worst in all college football history).
He has not done severe damage…over react much?
 
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You are usually not unreasonable, but it appears you have a blind spot for Chesney. "Cream puffs" is very relative to the level of the talent you have and the conferences you play in. Chesney has resurrected and made competitive several colleges. Does this mean that that the "odds" of him being successful are low? That is an incorrect inference. Surely, its not analogous to Cignetti, but it does not need to be. As for "bad look" why is taking a coach from the Group of 5 with an excellent track record worse than taking a mid-tier SEC coach who has a 50/50 record in conference?
The reality is PSU fans would not care about this guy if he was born in a different state and coached somewhere other than JMU. There are other G5 candidates out there for this position that are much more qualified than Chesney. Golesh and Sumrall immediately come to mind, but most PSU fans do not even mention them because there’s no emotional connection. This hire needs to be based on logic rather than emotion. There is nothing on Chesney’s résumé that should give anyone reasonable confidence that he will succeed at PSU. His other head coaching experience was at schools at or smaller than the student population size of my own high school. I hope the guy succeeds, but I don’t want him at PSU. Heck, I would take Terry Smith way before I would take Chesney.
 
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In the spirit of debate, that "article" far from shuts down the KDB to PSU rumors. It's Josh Pate (who likely knows as little as anyone) giving an opinion. It's not fact. I'm not saying KDB is the guy, but we have no clue what is accurate vs. garbage right now. I'd treat it all as garbage for our sanity.

Including all of the bs that was spouted by Krafty The Clown.... time is showing his aggrandizing comments about a massive hire were nothing but hot garbage.