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MtNittany

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Urban would be as close to a slam dunk hire as possible.

There are reports that money was one of the issues in the locker room this year. Success with honor is dead. These kids are pro athletes and need to be treated as such.
Yep. It's a little different than it was 35 years ago when a choice dorm room in Hamilton Hall was all the player could be set up with. They all still had to attend study hall twice a week back then as well.
 

mfb5053

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Urban would be as close to a slam dunk hire as possible.

There are reports that money was one of the issues in the locker room this year. Success with honor is dead. These kids are pro athletes and need to be treated as such.
If we need to treat the players like pro athletes, Urban should definitely be moved down the list. His track record while dealing with pros has been well documented.
 

s1uggo72

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I posted this elsewhere but Jeff Hafley will be offered the job. Will he take it? Idk. But coached in pros and college. Will have the money to compete which he didn’t have at BC. Football junkie. Not a cheerleader. Besides he’s worked w Kraft. Son do u want to go to the league?
 

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I am old fashioned and still believe in the idea of success with honor. That eliminates Meyer for
Urban would be as close to a slam dunk hire as possible.

There are reports that money was one of the issues in the locker room this year. Success with honor is dead. These kids are pro athletes and need to be treated as such.
Agreed. If that were still alive, then we would have just kept JF. JF was a wonderful representation of SWH and actually seems him trying to keep that, cost him his job.
 

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I posted this elsewhere but Jeff Hafley will be offered the job. Will he take it? Idk. But coached in pros and college. Will have the money to compete which he didn’t have at BC. Football junkie. Not a cheerleader. Besides he’s worked w Kraft. Son do u want to go to the league?
There's no way Kraft could sell that to Penn State. Any head coach with a sub-500 record at BC won't be under consideration for this job now.
 

BobPSU92

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There ain't no honor amongst thieves and that's what it is now. Its robbery all across the board.

I would love this from Kraft’s next PRESSER. o_O :

”I know that many of you anticipated that I would announce Penn State’s next head football coach today, but I have a different announcement. After much consideration, Penn State’s administration and I have decided that the college football landscape no longer matches Penn State’s values. As a result, Penn State will cease all football operations immediately. I would like to thank all of you and all Penn Staters for their support of Penn State Football over the years and trust that you all will support this difficult decision. Now I will open it up to questions.”
 

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There ain't no honor amongst thieves and that's what it is now. Its robbery all across the board.
Right. Michigan cheated their balls off to win a championship. The NCAA acknowledged it and still let them keep their championship. There’s no deterrent to cheating or being unethical anymore. You’re almost a sucker to bother staying within the rules anymore.
 

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Agreed. If that were still alive, then we would have just kept JF. JF was a wonderful representation of SWH and actually seems him trying to keep that, cost him his job.
I have to respectfully, but vehemently, disagree. SWH did not cost Franklin his job. The fact that Franklin did not improve his game preparation and gameday coaching over 12 years, while regressing as a recruiter, cost him his job.

The “S” in SWH is important too.
 

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Urban would be as close to a slam dunk hire as possible.

There are reports that money was one of the issues in the locker room this year. Success with honor is dead. These kids are pro athletes and need to be treated as such.
Just because the rules allow players to paid NIL in an open market does not mean that success with honor is dead. Playing within the rules, holding your players to high moral standards and having success is the definition of success with honor. The rules changed. When players are allowed to be paid and they get paid for playing, it is not dishonorable. If players are allowed to transfer and they decide to transfer (just like any other college student is able to do), it is not dishonorable to transfer or accept transfers. The players back when Paterno was coaching were not inherently more loyal to PSU and were not inherently better people than those who play today, rather, the players back in the day were handcuffed by the rules.
 
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mfb5053

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Again, what you do in the NFL has NOTHING to do with what you are in college. See: "Saban, Nick".

Damn straight Urban should be the guy.
My argument is if Urban is the guy, it should be based on his track record while dealing with “college” athletes and not pro athletes. The pro athletes Urban dealt with despised him. The real question is, can Urban be as successful during the NIL era? The dynamics are completely different now.
 

CDLionFL

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Right. Michigan cheated their balls off to win a championship. The NCAA acknowledged it and still let them keep their championship. There’s no deterrent to cheating or being unethical anymore. You’re almost a sucker to bother staying within the rules anymore.
NCAA does not run the 1-A football championship or playoff so they can have their opinions but they're toothless as far as 'vacating' that championship like they do with other sports.
 

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Yep. It's a little different than it was 35 years ago when a choice dorm room in Hamilton Hall was all the player could be set up with. They all still had to attend study hall twice a week back then as well.
A former teammate of my son who now plays for the NY Giants told me last week that he has a 20-something year old teammate with a Masters who when asked what his Masters was in, replied that he couldn't remember. He was pressed several times about it too. I guess that was to take advantage of another year of college eligibility. We were lucky to enjoy football when success with honor meant something.
 

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NCAA does not run the 1-A football championship or playoff so they can have their opinions but they're toothless as far as 'vacating' that championship like they do with other sports.
If they vacated all of their victories, it would look ridiculous for Michigan have a championship with an 0-12 regular season record. It would have been vacated.
 

s1uggo72

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CFB track record is what matters here. Kraft understands the optics of this hire too well to go the NFL coordinator route, IMO.
Naw. HC in college so it’s not the NFL coordinator route He’s hiring someone he knows well
 

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Again, what you do in the NFL has NOTHING to do with what you are in college. See: "Saban, Nick".

Damn straight Urban should be the guy.
lol. Dude, college teams are becoming NFL light. It matters. And Urban’s issues were not just W and L.

Wait, is Urban going to be on Bilema’s staff or is Bilema going to be on Urban’s staff. You flip around d more than a fish out of water, but that is because you are trolling.
 

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Lavar and Brady Quinn this morning (I assume) on Fox Radio discussing Matt Rhule. Pretty interesting. It seems like I would really like Matt Rhule if I met him.

Still not in any way sure I want him to be the PSU football coach though.

 
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re the audio/video above w/ Lavar. He comes right out and says that there is a divide between the JVP lettermen and the CJF lettermen.

"...just a distant memory by 2014."

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Sounds great. Probably BS.
It is BS.

It's a short list and Cignetti is at the tippy top of that list. It's my understanding that all on the list are HC's no coordinators but I guess that could change. Supposedly everyone on the list has expressed interest. Why wouldn't they even if they truly weren't.
 

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lol. Dude, college teams are becoming NFL light. It matters. And Urban’s issues were not just W and L.

Wait, is Urban going to be on Bilema’s staff or is Bilema going to be on Urban’s staff. You flip around d more than a fish out of water, but that is because you are trolling.
It's still different. You can recruit in the NFL. Trades are tough. Free agency is tough. College is way easier even with NIL. He can basically run everyone off and build a team
 

KingLando

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It is BS.

It's a short list and Cignetti is at the tippy top of that list. It's my understanding that all on the list are HC's no coordinators but I guess that could change. Supposedly everyone on the list has expressed interest. Why wouldn't they even if they truly weren't.
Why would a 65 year old coach be the top candidate? It doesn't even make sense. A top candidate that has 2 years of experience in P4 football?

Elko would have to he ahead of him. Other younger coaches would. Simply not buying it. If it happens great but can't see a major program making that decision for anyone that old other than Saban or Urban.
 
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Why would a 65 year old coach be the top candidate? It doesn't even make sense. A top candidate that has 2 years of experience in P4 football?

Elko would have to he ahead of him. Other younger coaches would. Simply not buying it. If it happens great but can't see a major program making that decision for anyone that old other than Saban or Urban.
They probably only need him for 4-5 years. All the guy does is win. Today 65 is nothing I'm 77 I have a job I love; I work every day it's outdoors it's a physically demanding job I've retired three times from desk type management positions that had a lot of stress tied to them. Today 65 is probably the new 50. How old was JoePa. The next guy can be that 35-45 year-old coach.

Having said that he may not take the job and use this opportunity to get a raise and pretty things for his program.

But if it were me getting a chance to go back home (pa) and maybe be one of the highest paid coaches in college football in one of the hottest recruiting areas that's right out your back door? I would have a hard time saying no.

I like some of those other guys too, but I don't get to choose if I did, I might opt for one of those younger fellows tied to the state or the east. I like your choice I really do, and it could end up being him.
 
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They probably only need him for 4-5 years. All the guy does is win. Today 65 is nothing I'm 77 I have a job I love; I work every day it's outdoors it's a physically demanding job I've retired three times from desk type management positions that had a lot of stress tied to them. Today 65 is probably the new 50. How old was JoePa. The next guy can be that 35-45 year-old coach.

Having said that he may not take the job and use this opportunity to get a raise and pretty things for his program.

But if it were me getting a chance to go back home (pa) and maybe be one of the highest paid coaches in college football in one of the hottest recruiting areas that's right out your back door? I would have a hard time saying no.

I like some of those other guys too, but I don't get to choose if I did, I might opt for one of those younger fellows tied to the state or the east. I like your choice I really do, and it could end up being him.

People are acting like this is our parent's generation or something. Today's 64 is like last generation's 50. Cignetti could easily coach another 10 years and quite a bit longer if motivated. Take a look at him - he looks quite healthy and energetic for a 64 year old - he does not look like an "old man" at all.
 
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If we need to treat the players like pro athletes, Urban should definitely be moved down the list. His track record while dealing with pros has been well documented.
I’m not sure Urbs has dealt with NIL, transfers in and out, and bitching parents. Has he?
 
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I would love this from Kraft’s next PRESSER. o_O :

”I know that many of you anticipated that I would announce Penn State’s next head football coach today, but I have a different announcement. After much consideration, Penn State’s administration and I have decided that the college football landscape no longer matches Penn State’s values. As a result, Penn State will cease all football operations immediately. I would like to thank all of you and all Penn Staters for their support of Penn State Football over the years and trust that you all will support this difficult decision. Now I will open it up to questions.”
We are Cornell!
 
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