New coach

[Catch1lion]

I do not think Dabo meets the requirements that Kraft indicated in his press conference. Those requirements included the aggressive use of the portal and NIL. Dabo has been very resistant in those areas. While I agree with you that he should get a call, I do not believe he will be contacted.

Dabo needs to reinvent himself and get up to speed on that issue . Change of venue could give him an excuse to go in on that .

 

[Catch1lion]

Trace back. Dabo's success was closely tied to his two coordinators that are now head coaches: Venables was his DC (now OU HC) and Tony Elliott was his OC (now UVA HC). Record fell off once they departed.

NIL/portal kicked off around then too . Also QB talent at Clemson dropped off too . Who are his main recruiters now ? Might be able to get Carolina talent to PSU .

 

[WestSideLion]

Playing hardball. Can’t blame him.

Report: Kelly rejected LSU buyouts, seeks $54M

Former LSU football coach Brian Kelly reportedly rejected settlement offers of $25 million and $30 million dollars and is asking LSU for written confirmation, by Monday 6p ET, that he will get the $54 million he is owed under the terms of his contract.

www.espn.com

Why would he settle for a dime less than what he’s contractually owed?! LSU’s trustees approved the deal. Now they’re expressing buyer’s remorse and trying to get off cheap. It doesn’t work that way!

 

[CyphaPSU]

PSU NIL Video Ad

We just need better marketing for our NIL efforts.

 

[Arivacalion]

Whoever it is they need to be hired immediately after the final game. As Landon T. said, you wait till after the playoffs and you forfeit 2026 and 2027.

 

[BCS PSU]

Whoever it is they need to be hired immediately after the final game. As Landon T. said, you wait till after the playoffs and you forfeit 2026 and 2027.

Totally agree; the new coach really needs to be introduced by early to mid December for many reasons.

 

[LMTLION]

Not a bad idea….

Why Terry Smith Could Be a Great General Manager at Penn State

The Nittany Lions' head coach understands recruiting, roster construction and retention and provides a link with the program's past.

www.si.com

 

[PSUSignore]

I mentioned this weeks ago and I know the prevailing response was "NO WAY," but I have to think Penn State at least calls Dabo. Its gone all sour at Clemson and his reluctance to use the portal is notorious, but just based on what we perceive to be major drivers for Kraft in this search, I don't understand how Dabo isn't getting a call from not only us, but LSU, Florida, Auburn, etc. How many 2 time national champion winning coaches are currently on the market(or even possible to get onto the market)? He took a program that sort of mirrors Penn State starting in the 90's, good...not elite, beat some of the most talented and elite schools on his way to NCs. Look, I'm not advocating for him, he seems destined to stay in the south regardless, but I'm just amazed he has become so toxic that nobody is considering him? He's still relatively young, has been a SUPER successful(anyway you measure it) head coach for years, he would certainly attract attention, recruits, players with him. Let's say, as some believe(I don't) that we are on the tier 3 of the coaching search and struck out on a our tier one guys.....is Dabo riskier than a Hartline or a Chesney?

Hard pass

 

[PSU4U]

Whoever it is they need to be hired immediately after the final game. As Landon T. said, you wait till after the playoffs and you forfeit 2026 and 2027.

Right now, a lot of people think it's Drinkwitz. If it's him Elko Key Lea Brohm we will be getting a good HC. That said another thing is Brohm has said nothing about bleeding Lousyville colors or anything like that. He's been very quiet so there's that too.

 

[SRURock24]

Maybe I misunderstood your original point.

Were you saying that future portal recruits or high school recruits will hold Allar against the future regime?

Right now, a lot of people think it's Drinkwitz. If it's him Elko Key Lea Brohm we will be getting a good HC.

I like Dabo but he isn’t coming here.

 

[donaldfair71]

Right now, a lot of people think it's Drinkwitz. If it's him Elko Key Lea Brohm we will be getting a good HC.

Throw in Golesh.

 

[DaytonRickster]

NIL/portal kicked off around then too . Also QB talent at Clemson dropped off too . Who are his main recruiters now ? Might be able to get Carolina talent to PSU .

I don't think DABO will come north.

 

[DaytonRickster]

Why would he settle for a dime less than what he’s contractually owed?! LSU’s trustees approved the deal. Now they’re expressing buyer’s remorse and trying to get off cheap. It doesn’t work that way!

Yep, they put themselves in that bind.

 

[PSU4U]

Throw in Golesh.

I have always liked Golesh but Kraft is going to get a power 4 guy that fits what he said in his press conference after firing you know who. I didn't mention his name because it's time to quit talking about him.

Addendum: I will say this about Golesh. If by chance they were to hire a non-power 4 coach it better be him.

 

[DaytonRickster]

Not a bad idea….

Why Terry Smith Could Be a Great General Manager at Penn State

The Nittany Lions' head coach understands recruiting, roster construction and retention and provides a link with the program's past.

www.si.com

Would like to see this. Perhaps Kraft will suggest that to the new coach.

 

[Catch1lion]

I don't think DABO will come north.

If money and the opportunity to win are the best , IMO he would strongly consider it . I think the opp to win is second only to LSU and maybe UF .

 

[BobPSU92]

PSU should hire mike norvell. His confidence and denial match Kraft’s.

Embattled Norvell: FSU will win title in near future

As questions about his future continue, FSU coach Mike Norvell doubled down on his belief that the Seminoles will win a championship "in the very near future."

www.espn.com

 

[bwc]

Trace back. Dabo's success was closely tied to his two coordinators that are now head coaches: Venables was his DC (now OU HC) and Tony Elliott was his OC (now UVA HC). Record fell off once they departed.

There's also the pre NIL pictures of Clemson players with stacks of cash that were widely circulated on the internet during the height of their success.

 

[LMTLION]

Would like to see this. Perhaps Kraft will suggest that to the new coach.

Should the new coach even have a say in the GM? Shouldn’t the GM report to Kraft? Obviously the GM in pro sports reports to ownership, and Kraft is the closest thing to ownership in this level that is increasingly professional.

 

[LMTLION]

There's also the pre NIL pictures of Clemson players with stacks of cash that were widely circulated on the internet during the height of their success.

That’s why I’m not convinced that these guys from that era, Dabo, Saban, Meyer would be successful in this era. There was NIL before there was NIL!

 

[PSU4U]

There's also the pre NIL pictures of Clemson players with stacks of cash that were widely circulated on the internet during the height of their success.

What was once cheating to the max by a favored few is now universally legal.

 

[Catch1lion]

What was once cheating to the max by a favored few is now universally legal.

Giddyup, pony express was ahead of the times

 

[DaytonRickster]

Should the new coach even have a say in the GM? Shouldn’t the GM report to Kraft? Obviously the GM in pro sports reports to ownership, and Kraft is the closest thing to ownership in this level that is increasingly professional.

Wasn't sure how it works.

 

[WVilleLion23]

I like Dabo but he isn’t coming here.

Dabo doesn’t want to operate the way he needs to present day.

 

[PSUForever]

Should the new coach even have a say in the GM? Shouldn’t the GM report to Kraft? Obviously the GM in pro sports reports to ownership, and Kraft is the closest thing to ownership in this level that is increasingly professional.

I am not opposed to hiring a GM but you have to be very careful you don't create some kind of sh## show political environment between the head coach and GM if the GM reports directly to Kraft.

 

[Ludd]

I don’t expect a NC in three seasons if ever. What I do expect is that this team within three seasons will be back to where it was from 2022 through 2024 with the possibility of being better coached to beat the top teams in the conference, and also to run a modern offense that throws passes to open receivers more than ten yards from the line of scrimmage. I also expect to see a more hard nosed and disciplined team.

So if they do what they did from 2022 to 2024 and beat the good teams, then they would be undefeated and winning NC’s…that’s kind of my point. If you don’t expect NC’s then you’re okay with losing two or more games per year…that’s kind of what we had.

 

[Ludd]

You better have your checkbook ready because Jimmy Sexton will make sure that firing his client in five years, let alone two or three will cripple Penn State's athletics. If you think the likes of Brohm, Keys, Lea are going to come to PSU without the promise of a massive LONG TERM compensation you are not looking at current contracts being signed. Only a Group of 5 coach MAY take on that kind of proof of concept risk. Hartline would not do it either.

You can’t fire a guy because only championships are acceptable and then bring in a guy and let him go five years without winning a championship…kind of makes you look like a really bad AD.

 

[WVilleLion23]

You can’t fire a guy because only championships are acceptable and then bring in a guy and let him go five years without winning a championship…kind of makes you look like a really bad AD.

Stay tuned!

 

[Ludd]

CJF and PSU ran its course. It was good for both parties to separate. James laid a giant egg this year. A change of scenery will do him and the program good.

It remains to be seen whether it will do the program good.

 

[Ludd]

Stay tuned!

I have no doubt we won’t win championships but I don’t think the coach will get more than three years without one.

 

[BobPSU92]

I have no doubt we won’t win championships but I don’t think the coach will get more than three years without one.

If the guys I keep hearing for PSU are going to win a NATTY. , it won’t happen in three years. I don’t think guys like Drunkwits, Chesney, or Hartline would git er done that quickly, if ever. Elmo, maybe, but we aren’t getting him.

 

[WVilleLion23]

I have no doubt we won’t win championships but I don’t think the coach will get more than three years without one.

Sadly, I expect us to turn into a program with a new coach every 3-5 years.

 

[Ludd]

If the guys I keep hearing for PSU are going to win a NATTY. , it won’t happen in three years. I don’t think guys like Drunkwits, Chesney, or Hartline would git er done that quickly, if ever. Elmo, maybe, but we aren’t getting him.

None of them are going to win a natty regardless of how much time they get.

 

[Ludd]

Sadly, I expect us to turn into a program with a new coach every 3-5 years.

7-5, 8-4, 9-3….then fired….rinse and repeat.

 

[Arivacalion]

[QUOTE="Ludd, post: 174574357, member: 414727"
7-5, 8-4, 9-3….then fired….rinse and repeat.
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I will take it . Right now we're on course for 3-9 or 4-8

 

[Ludd]

[QUOTE="Ludd, post: 174574357, member: 414727"
7-5, 8-4, 9-3….then fired….rinse and repeat.

I will take it . Right now we're on course for 3-9 or 4-8
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So the last three years didn’t happen? I see, only this year counts. You’d rather have 7-5, 8-4, and 9-3 then repeat over 11-2, 10-3,, 13-3, and 3-9? Your FDS is really bad if that’s the case.

 

[Arivacalion]

Right now the only candidates who actually meet the requirements are Brohm and Drinkwitz: All the others are on course for the playoffs, and that simply cannot be done. As Landon and many others commented, any hire after early December and we are forfeiting 2026 and probably 27, and that cannot happen with a new stadium being completed by then

 

[BCS PSU]

I will take it . Right now we're on course for 3-9 or 4-8

So the last three years didn’t happen? I see, only this year counts. You’d rather have 7-5, 8-4, and 9-3 then repeat over 11-2, 10-3,, 13-3, and 3-9? Your FDS is really bad if that’s the case.
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So why do you assume that the new coach won’t be able to have 10 and 11 or even 13 win seasons? Who knows; maybe the new coach won’t be able to replicate what Franklin did. On the other hand, maybe he’ll be able to elevate this program into the next level on a consistent basis.

 

[BCS PSU]

Right now the only candidates who actually meet the requirements are Brohm and Drinkwitz: All the others are on course for the playoffs, and that simply cannot be done. As Landon and many others commented, any hire after early December and we are forfeiting 2026 and probably 27, and that cannot happen with a new stadium being completed by then

It’s pretty unrealistic to expect to lure a coach of a playoff team anyway, so it’s probably a moot issue. I agree with Tengwall. I also think that the preferred candidates are the ones who could serve as a magnet to be able to bring some of his existing players and recruits with him to stabilize the situation at least for 2026.

 

[Arivacalion]

Right now in MY opinion it's down to 3:

Drinkwitz
Brohm
Hartline

If I had to put percentage odds, probably 50 percent Drinkwitz, 40 percent Brohm, 10 percent Hartline.

It's going to be Drinkwitz. Again, I'm not thrilled about it. You fire Franklin to hire DRINKWITZ?

But at the end of the day he is probably as good as Franklin, and I think in 2 years we can possibly get back to 9-3/10-2 level teams. It's not a home run, it's a double inside the third base line