Since it's so easy to finish Top 12 in the Final CFP Rankings 70% of the time could you explain why PSU is one of only like 6 teams Nationally to do it over the last decade AND PSU and duhO$U are the only b1g teams to have done it including the new ex-PAC12 teams??? It's so easy but few have actually done it - sounds like the issue here is your ignorance and confusion as to the actual definitions of "easy" and "hard". A common plight in the legend in their own mind fanboy.
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Since it's so easy to finish Top 12 in the Final CFP Rankings 70% of the time could you explain why PSU is one of only like 6 teams Nationally to do it over the last decade AND PSU and duhO$U are the only b1g teams to have done it including the new ex-PAC12 teams??? It's so easy but few have actually done it - sounds like the issue here is your ignorance and confusion as to the actual definitions of "easy" and "hard". A common plight in the legend in their own mind fanboy.
He’s gone because he couldn’t win the big games, or go to the natty. And he basically quit on his own team this year after the Oregon game. All the other crap is irrelevant. Michigan wins a natty their fans don’t care about 8-4 etc while they rebuild right now. He had 12 years to do so and didn’t. He had many positive attributes but was a mental midget in the biggest stages 95% of the time. It is what it is, time to move forward.
This one poster is now just trolling. Time to move on from this thread.
Let me translate, when only 6 of 130 and 2 of 18 accomplish something at a 70% success rate, it is by definition "hard" to accomplish, not "easy". So the self-proclaimed know-it-all experts are off their rockers as per usual when they say the next PSU coach had a great chance of succeeding especially given the inane, irresponsible actions of Kraft in regards to this situation. Kraft has made it even HARDER for any new coach to succeed. Hard prior to the way Kraft handled this thing - near impossible subsequent to Kraft's irresponsible handling. PSU's best bet at this point is to take a flier on a proven successful coach who is going to be able to bring a nucleus of proven players with him - still a low probability move, but the best bet PSU has to avoid long-term irrelevancy.
The time to move on was about 40 pages ago.
We all have second teams to one extent or another. I go way back with OK and Barry Switzer when Galen Hall was their RB coach. They were always cheaters always, from illegal recruiting to doctoring grades and manuscripts on players out of Texas who could barely speak the English language and barely write it. To a lesser degree they continued to cheat right up to the time of NIL which made all most all cheating legal for all. Their inability to cheat to the degree of the old days is why there comeback has taken so long. I'm not ragging on you it's just that I have a certain disdain for them that I doubt I will ever get over. When they beat us in the Orange bowl when Cappy was out with the Flu half their starters on O could barely read or write.
Drinkwitz at this point is most likely to be the guy to bring the most effective players with him. A lot of people seem it's going to be him.
Can’t wait. I generally enjoy coaching searches but this one has gotten old. Excited to support the new coach whoever it is.
What this coaching search should teach everyone is that there are no "Sure" things out there, hell OSU wanted to run Day out of town, most fans are clueless. I would have loved for Saban to have gone 8-4 one yr and seen the ding dongs calling for his head, lol.
Might be a great hire but won't be doing somersaults if it is him, not really sure that's an upgrade.
For me there would be at least three other attainable coaches I would hire 1st.
I still think an agreement will get done around Thanksgiving or the week after. Who that may end up being is anyone's guess at this point. I don't fault Kraft for kicking tires and doing his due diligence on this search, but I mean man it is getting old for me.
Sorry I brought it up.
The reality is Franklin beat one team with a pulse in his entire 11+ years. And none on the road.
And just like I stated, he ruined the mental and physical toughness of the program (see said results, immediately above).
Agree with you that he may be our best bet - he went to Mizzou in 2020 from App State, so much of his roster at Mizzou was built via NIL with X-fers and effective use of the portal and many of his current players would likely continue to follow him as they attach their success at Mizzou to him. Given his experience in transitioning from App State to Mizzou, he is likely to have a very good plan in place for what he would do about the 2026 Roster as soon as his feet hit the ground.
Article snippet on the Drink playoff comment...............
If there's any bidding war for Drinkwitz's services, it's one that LSU, Florida, and Auburn should steer clear of. While there's a case to be made that Drinkwitz's demeanor is a good fit for Penn State, his comments about teams that don't make the College Football Playoff still having successful seasons are a non-starter in Baton Rouge, Gainesville, or the Plains. Or at least should be.
If there's any bidding war for Drinkwitz's services, it's one that LSU, Florida, and Auburn should steer clear of. While there's a case to be made that Drinkwitz's demeanor is a good fit for Penn State, his comments about teams that don't make the College Football Playoff still having successful seasons are a non-starter in Baton Rouge, Gainesville, or the Plains. Or at least should be.
Is Drink an upgrade to Franklin?
It's really feeling dire right now as far as the search is concerned - Kraft talked a huge game in his presser after Franklin's firing, and it doesn't seem like this job is all that attractive to anyone of note. Coming into this search, Drink was like the 5-6 option. What's his signature win at Mizzou? What's his highest finish in the SEC?
This is really starting to feel like end of the Kraft era as well.
It's really feeling dire right now as far as the search is concerned - Kraft talked a huge game in his presser after Franklin's firing, and it doesn't seem like this job is all that attractive to anyone of note. Coming into this search, Drink was like the 5-6 option. What's his signature win at Mizzou? What's his highest finish in the SEC?
This is really starting to feel like end of the Kraft era as well.
Give Kraft time. Let him do his job before we jump to conclusions. A thorough search is almost always better, even if impatient fans squirm in their seats while the team loses games and committed recruits.
Any new coach will need a couple of years to hit reset. That’s life. This is about long term program success not 2026.
Any new coach will need a couple of years to hit reset. That’s life. This is about long term program success not 2026.
I don't know. A guy that has spent his entire time in the south. Coming up to PA at a very traditional BIG power? This doesn't even feel like a good fit, let alone do I trust his resume. Speaking of resume, he's 44-27 at Mizzou and 24-23 in the SEC. That's who we're giving the keys to?
Kraft needs to see the f*ck-up all the way through. Make a bad hire, see the FNG have three to four losing seasons, then maybe, the coach and Kraft get sh|tcanned.
Be patient. Setting the program back 20 years isn’t always a sprint.
Unless I'm mistaken, neither UCLA, VT, Florida, LSU nor Oklahoma State has hired a coach yet. Did you think that a coach who already is coaching another team was going to be hired before the end of the regular season?
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Not at all, no.
But we've essentially been turned down by anyone of note. My frustration doesn't have to do with a hire not happening yet as it has more to do with who's even being considered at this point.
I didn’t say forever. Watch what happens next few years, especially with Texas schools, top SEC schools, etc. Until there are some sort of caps put in place, NIL is going to escalate at a much quicker rate.
Some of these schools are going directly from V8 to V12 $$$.
I do believe other than maybe the JMU coach, you are correct, Drink would bring the most players with him.
Yeah, it kind of is. Thought he would either get Cignetti or at least Rhule. Now scrambling around and maybe stuck with either Fitzgerald, Al Golden or letting Terry Smith have it. I know Drinkwitz is still out there, but he seems more like an SEC coach. Even Diaz just keeps looking terrible now.
Need to just put whatever names are possible in a hat and draw one out next week to get it over with.
I truly believe he is one of best available coaches for us at this point. He can coach up our players to help mitigate the NIL gap that exists between us and OSU/Oregon. No matter who comes here at hc, the 5 stars are going to Texas schools (even Texas Tech!), osu, oregon, bama, rtc. We need the next coach to turn 3 and 4 stars into 4 and 5 stars.