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BCS PSU

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No way that it's not bad- no way
Frankly, I want see a different type of football player than what we’ve been seeing from a lot of the old coach’s recruits in recent years; I want to see more substance over style, and I want to see players who are less soft both physically and mentally. VT now can turn into a physically and mentally soft program, which they will under their new coach.
 

Nitt1300

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Frankly, I want see a different type of football player than what we’ve been saying from a lot of the old coach’s recruits in recent years; I want to see more substance over style.
Sadly, Jack Ham and Mike Reid are too old to play.
 
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PSUSignore

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Yes, I understand that we cannot truly judge the hire until we see the results on the field. But as far as the actual search is concerned, it’s been epically bad. I really do think Kraft isn’t going to make it long enough to even see the new hire’s full PSU career. How has his basketball hire played out? Completely different circumstances, but has he hired a bunch of winners? Or just won with what the AD already had in place? He really has nuked the program - if you think the decommits are bad, just watch what happens to the active roster. This became a true rebuild.

At this point, I’d hire Hartline and give him time and resources. His age and recruiting alone will jolt some life into the program.

Or give it to Smith with the caveat the search just continues into the next season.

I just can’t trust a hire like Chesney. Nobody even knew his name until like two weeks ago. No experience at all at a program of this magnitude let alone recruiting at the P4 level. Trying to replicate Cignetti is fool’s gold. Cig at least coached with Saban.
I don't understand how any of you that have zero facts about the coaching search can say things like this. You have no idea if it's been bad or not. Hell, it's possible Kraft has had his guy for weeks and is just waiting for the season to end to announce it. Or he's striking out with every single person he asks. Or it's somewhere in between the best and worst case scenarios. None of us know, so pretending like it's a dumpster fire and losing your mind over it doesn't make any sense.
 

Nitt1300

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I don't understand how any of you that have zero facts about the coaching search can say things like this. You have no idea if it's been bad or not. Hell, it's possible Kraft has had his guy for weeks and is just waiting for the season to end to announce it. Or he's striking out with every single person he asks. Or it's somewhere in between the best and worst case scenarios. None of us know, so pretending like it's a dumpster fire and losing your mind over it doesn't make any sense.
I agree. I do think it's a dumpster fire, but there is no sense in losing your mind over it. It's just a game.
 

PSUSignore

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One other thing to consider is that if BGJ had not pooped the bed this season, you know he would have been leveraging the open coaching positions around the country to the hilt.

His annual act was quite tiresome. Just like Lane Kiffen is distracting Ole Miss from what should be a great season for that program.
That leveraging is one of the things that forced an increase in investment into things around the program. PSU needed someone to force them to get beyond the "do more with less" culture that had existed for 50 years. Franklin made that happen whether fans like it or not. PSU had to decide if they wanted to try to compete with the big boys for titles or if they were happy just being a solid program operating on a budget that would make winning a title highly unlikely unless they caught lightning in a bottle with a couple of players. Franklin's actions forced PSU to decide, and they decided to try to compete and invest more, something that will help the program long after Franklin is gone.
 

BobPSU92

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Unrivaled!

😞
 

Ludd

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Ok…name a few…should not be that difficult.
Doesn’t matter who I name you’ll just say they weren’t good…that’s an easy and lazy way to argue and you take it every time.
 

Ludd

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By firing him early, you get a head start on talking to new coach candidates before other programs do. You remove a coach that appeared to have lost the locker room and seemed checked out from continuing in the position, sending a message to all that your program doesn't tolerate a rudderless ship with Franklin continuing as captain. Keeping Franklin in place would have been crazy. Imagine the fan response, the press conferences, etc. Every single week the questions about his job would be in the national media. The recruiting class would have fallen apart as the team circled the drain, Franklin or no Franklin. Do you really think we'd have had better odds to hire a top replacement quick enough to prep for signing day and the January portal window if we had waited until after next week to start the search? The search was going to take weeks minimum, regardless of when it started. Getting rid of him immediately was the right move.
I disagree and in case you didn’t notice, the recruiting class fell apart quickly. And Kraft can’t name a replacement anytime soon, so it gives more recruits and current players more time to leave. Also, by the way the players reacted, there’s no way Franklin lost the locker room.
 

psuno1

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Did you?


Several prominent analysts, including
Kirk Herbstreit, Lee Corso, and Colin Cowherd, picked Penn State to play in the national championship game this year. Other analysts like Heather Dinich and Johnny McGonigal also had them in their preseason national championship predictions.
  • Kirk Herbstreit: Predicted Penn State would play LSU in the national championship game.
  • Lee Corso: Had Penn State playing LSU for the national title and predicted Penn State would win the national championship.
  • Colin Cowherd: Predicted a national championship matchup between Penn State and Texas.
  • Heather Dinich: Picked Penn State as the team with the best chance to win the national championship.
  • Johnny McGonigal: Penn State was his pick to win the national title in his preseason College Football Playoff predictions.
So much for that, Huh.
 

DaytonRickster

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I’ll give him the same length of time many on here gave Franklin…about a half a season.
Franklin had almost twelve years. It was obvious he had checked out this year and it reflected in the teams play and lack of intensity. It was time for him to go, the timing of the firing is debatable but the firing is not. He went to the well of raises over the AD'S head if the reporting is correct. That was a dagger.
 

Ludd

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Franklin had almost twelve years. It was obvious he had checked out this year and it reflected in the teams play and lack of intensity. It was time for him to go, the timing of the firing is debatable but the firing is not. He went to the well of raises over the AD'S head if the reporting is correct. That was a dagger.
We’re discussing how long many posters on here gave him before they started bashing his every move not how long he coached here. How long would he have been coach if fans had the ability to fire him? About a year would be my guess.
 

Efejle

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Alonza Barnett the third. Man, if we can just get him here along with Bob... Exactly the kind of qb we need
 

rigi19040

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Frankly, I want see a different type of football player than what we’ve been seeing from a lot of the old coach’s recruits in recent years; I want to see more substance over style, and I want to see players who are less soft both physically and mentally. VT now can turn into a physically and mentally soft program, which they will under their new coach.
You will see different players. They are called 2 *s.
 
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BCS PSU

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You will see different players. They are called 2 *s.
So not much different than what the last coach was bringing into the program in recent seasons. Unless I was misreading the ratings, the 2026 recruiting class wasn’t that special, or at least that’s what many on this board were saying because I don’t take the time to watch Joe Blow play against some outmanned A or AA high school team that has about twenty players on it.
 

TheWizardofCamelot

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Michael Robinson just made a serious statement on national television.

Pat Kraft “didn’t have a plan” and other coaches “are using (PSU) for more money.” And whole heartedly stood behind Terry Smith being the next coach.
 
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donaldfair71

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Michael Robinson just made a serious statement on national television.

Pat Kraft “didn’t have a plan” and other coaches “are using (PSU) for more money.” And whole heartedly stood behind Terry Smith being the next coach.
And this is exactly how Bobby Engram winds up getting interviewed.
 
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donaldfair71

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One thing is for sure:

Matt Rhule is incredibly overrated. Hopefully he’s out of the running with that extension.
 
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