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According to you the PSU job is not a top 5 job. You then expect coaches to be lining up for the job.
You seem awfully thin skinned, maybe check into some counseling
You're right. They'd forgive him.Betrayal ain’t what it used to be.
Imagine recommending therapy to an internet stranger in a pathetic attempt at an insult. I’m sure your wife’s boyfriend is proud.
Just like you don't know but that has not stopped you from passing judgement on results that haven't even happened.
I’m convinced you’re retarded. I’m sorry I said bad things about Terry Smith. Accept my apology?
It’s going to be a sad day when PSU finally hires a new coach and this thread has to end.
Depending on who you believe, the new coach search will never end.
It goes on and on and on and on
THIS! When I see that the guy everyone seems to be chasing is none other than...Lane Kiffin...I mean, sit back for a second and really think about that. Yeah, Elko is doing a great job, but he's not in play, apparently. Apparently Meyer has no interest either. DeBoer is probably the best that may be in play...may be...but he's probably taking Bama to the playoffs. When I saw posts drooling over guys like Lea (Vandy, getting Franklin flashbacks), Campbell (Iowa State...really?), Drinkwitz (Mizzou...really?), or some other "flavor of the week," I'm thinking, you're really anxious to pay these guys over $10 million per year when they're not sniffing the playoffs at their school...again, really? Then there is Chesney. Guys hoping that Penn State can be like Indiana. I guess we've gotten that desperate.
I'm moving into the "hire Terry Smith" camp. No point in shooting the moon for, as you put it, "a pretty weak candidate pool." Who's to say that Terry can't do a better job than any of the other guys?
What if the candidate pool at Penn State any given year will be about what it is this year?
Just never hire outside? Do you think this board would have lauded the Cig hire two years ago? Elko was the coach at Duke, wouldn’t have knocked anyone out.
The guys are out there who can be the home run hire. You have to take swings though.
Who would be in a good candidate pool by your definition?
It‘s like looking around the bar every night when you walk in thinking what a bunch of losers.
OK, that's the trophy. From the pic, I thought it was an HVAC unit with an analog telephone on the shelf next to it. Big Prize Indeed!
The only three I can think of that would be worth throwing big money at are: Elko (no longer available, contract extended), Meyer (indicated not interested), and DeBoer (maybe available, but still at Bama until they lose in the playoffs). Beyond that, Chesney is probably going to get chased as the next Cignetti, and he will probably be an expensive "get" for no P4 experience. SRURock mentioned the DC at Georgia, name escapes me at the moment, might be worth pursuing him - how much money, who knows? There is also Hartline, but the question there is, can he elevate Penn State to OSU level all by himself? People will say, "but Lane Kiffin" - thing is, you look at his record, and he hasn't exactly lit it up (why some people seem to value him so highly is beyond me).
The only guys out there with playoff experience are Day, Saban, Meyer, and Smart. Well, there is Dabo, too, but his stock has dropped. I guess there's also Les Miles/Ed Orgeron, but...well, no. Probably the best reason to go after DeBoer, since he has playoff experience even though he lost. Thing is, Day ain't leaving, Smart ain't leaving, Saban's retired, and we've gone over Meyer.
Bottom line is, I don't see anyone out there worth throwing big bucks at that have a great shot at improving on Franklin's record - so why not go with Terry Smith, who actually worked under Franklin and bleeds blue and white? Not that I liked Franklin that much, mind you - but I like Terry better than Franklin.
Seems like it's all about money, but I don't think you can just throw money at it and solve the problem. I guess at this point I'd be happier with 9-3 under Terry than 9-3 under the other guys - unless you can get DeBoer.
In my experience most people are offended by being called retarded.
Not sure what's driving it, but over the last 2 days, Chesney has risen to #1 on the Kalshi Futures Market (34%) from 7th candidate (12%) a couple days ago.
Chesney up to 39% now. #2 now is also a huge surprise - Marcus Freeman with a projected 26% chance. Here's the most recent link:
https://www.si.com/fannation/colleg...rs-penn-state-coach-notre-dame-marcus-freeman
https://www.si.com/fannation/colleg...rs-penn-state-coach-notre-dame-marcus-freeman
Terry is a terrific assistant coach. He's universally respected by fans and players. But Kraft would be signing his own death warrant by firing Franklin for not taking the next program step, conducing a public national search for the coach to do that, and then hiring Franklin's long-time assistant as permanent HC.The only three I can think of that would be worth throwing big money at are: Elko (no longer available, contract extended), Meyer (indicated not interested), and DeBoer (maybe available, but still at Bama until they lose in the playoffs). Beyond that, Chesney is probably going to get chased as the next Cignetti, and he will probably be an expensive "get" for no P4 experience. SRURock mentioned the DC at Georgia, name escapes me at the moment, might be worth pursuing him - how much money, who knows? There is also Hartline, but the question there is, can he elevate Penn State to OSU level all by himself? People will say, "but Lane Kiffin" - thing is, you look at his record, and he hasn't exactly lit it up (why some people seem to value him so highly is beyond me).
The only guys out there with playoff experience are Day, Saban, Meyer, and Smart. Well, there is Dabo, too, but his stock has dropped. I guess there's also Les Miles/Ed Orgeron, but...well, no. Probably the best reason to go after DeBoer, since he has playoff experience even though he lost. Thing is, Day ain't leaving, Smart ain't leaving, Saban's retired, and we've gone over Meyer.
Bottom line is, I don't see anyone out there worth throwing big bucks at that have a great shot at improving on Franklin's record - so why not go with Terry Smith, who actually worked under Franklin and bleeds blue and white? Not that I liked Franklin that much, mind you - but I like Terry better than Franklin.
Seems like it's all about money, but I don't think you can just throw money at it and solve the problem. I guess at this point I'd be happier with 9-3 under Terry than 9-3 under the other guys - unless you can get DeBoer.
Beyond the obvious "insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results" arguments, the politics of hiring Smith are completely untenable for Kraft. Hiring anyone from outside gives him more maneuverability and leeway in the coming years. He may still miss but he saw a change was needed and swung big. That's a far better position to be in as a leader than making a rash decision then back pedaling to a form of status quo.
Besides, Frankllin would raid the staff and bully Smith and Co around for 3-4 years. That's an even worse look, IMO.
I find it hard to believe Freeman would leave ND unless it was for his alma mater, Ohio State.
If they were going to hire Terry, you would think they do it before Saturday’s game so team would be fired up and he can start to rebuild roster. If they wait until after the game it’s probably a good indication they’re going in a different direction.
Not to mention the fact that a guy like Chesney who is already a head coach has a bunch of return eligible starters coming back from a team that is 10-1 and has 20 HS commits so far.