And LSU was more than willing to wait until after CCG week if they had to
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Well, the early signing period for HS recruits is Dec 3-5. It’s a total punt on that at this point and the current roster is getting restless.
This year was hard to watch because expectations were high, and it became clear that our coaches and players were not up to the hype. Some of the best seasons I can recall were when expectations were low, and the team exceeded those expectations.
I’m ok with whatever happens next year. We had to move on from BGJ. Obviously.
By yesterday, everybody knew that Kiffin was going to LSU, so they could’ve afforded to wait for a formal announcement.
If it is Hartline, why do you think we are waiting? I could see waiting if it was Day.
And I agree, Meyer is not out of the question.
If it’s Meyer then they really botched it because he could have been named a month ago and assembled a nice recruiting class.
Because Hartline isn't willing to leave the leave with only a week to prepare for the CCG
If he leaves after that game they then have 3 weeks to adapt
The thing is we have 1 kid then take in all the seniors that are graduation then take in how many will transfer out. Might have to portal 50+ kids. You think that’s easy? lol
Do you think the incoming coach won't get anyone?
You're discussing the early signing period
And, yes, I'm confident we can have a full roster like everyone else that's ever done this has managed
They could announce his hire before he leaves. That’s the whole point. It’s December now. Almost every major job has been filled, if not with an actual body, at least with an announcement like Sumrall. This program needs a direction so it can begin to move forward, and the current players need to know what that direction is ASAP.
This is exactly what I believe to be the case. I feel confident that we've got our man already and that those that need to know already know who it is. I think it's either Chesney or Hartline. IMO, it's Chesney.
Could be both, Meyer as HC, already hired via an MOU or similar, with Hartline as OC/Coach-in-waiting. Which would explain why this wouldn't be announced until after the CCG at the earliest, and why there is no perceived rush.
Yeah of course the sooner the better. That’s obvious. But people are freaking out like we should be hiring anyone just to get it done quickly. If Kraft got his guy and can’t make the announcement until next weekend because the new guy is not a total scumbag like Kiffin, I’m fine with it. Give me Chesney next week instead of Terry Smith tomorrow.
Exactly. If it were Hartline then they should announce it today and say he will join PSU after the CCG. If all is in place, there's no downside to announcing now and only upside. Just because he's announced doesn't mean he has to start immediately.
I actually think the fact that it hasn't been announced points away from Hartline. There's virtually no reason not to announce the hiring of a position coach. More likely that it's a current head coach* if there is an agreement in place but not announced.
*Edit: specifically a current head coach going into a CCG
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I agree that I'd rather Chesney next week than most other options today (and especially Smith) but I'd rather Chesney today than him next week.
The announcement doesn’t have to be next week. Sumrall was announced as the Florida coach today and he’s still coaching Tulane next week as far as I know.
I think Meyer is too competitive to wait this long and punt on an entire recruiting class. He was an excellent recruiter. You don’t turn that away.
The longer it drags on, the more I'd be convinced that it is a current head coach with a pending CCG who wants to do right by those players and not disrupt that. There would be no reason for a non-head coach not to leave or at least be announced.
Granted the same sentiment would also apply if said team is going to the CFP but if you are going to take over a new team, you can't wait until late December to get going. So I think in the slim chance the coach in question is heading a CFP team, they'd have to leave before the playoffs.
So anyway, I'm guessing that if Kraft is actually organized and doing a good job that it is Chesney or Sitake (or I guess DeBour as a huge longshot). If someone is not already in the bag then Kraft has f'ed up big time.
Edit: I'd also put Diaz as a real possibility as one of the coaches with a game next week.
Granted the same sentiment would also apply if said team is going to the CFP but if you are going to take over a new team, you can't wait until late December to get going. So I think in the slim chance the coach in question is heading a CFP team, they'd have to leave before the playoffs.
So anyway, I'm guessing that if Kraft is actually organized and doing a good job that it is Chesney or Sitake (or I guess DeBour as a huge longshot). If someone is not already in the bag then Kraft has f'ed up big time.
Edit: I'd also put Diaz as a real possibility as one of the coaches with a game next week.
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I agree with this line of thnking, BUT could an announcement be made prior to a super-secret BOT meeting? Even if the coach is house-hunting tonight, I'm not sure it could announced immediately. Sure, it could be leaked. But, if the coach is active, what good does that do? I'm not saying the new coach is in the fold. I'm saying the timing wouldn't add up. If it was Dabol, it could be announced. Most of the other names are in a CCG or a playoff hopeful. I could be wrong on the process. I have no idea who the new coach will be. The 2026 class was gone when Franklin was fired. The new coach has to recruit the current players he wants to keep and succeed in the portal when it opens. Then, recruit for 2027 while staying active in the portal.
Well, obviously the current players are unaware of who it is.
Is Hartline really interested in this? I know Freeman went to Notre Dame and this stuff is all business, but some of these people may be too attached to "their" school to consider doing this.
If he's interested, great. If not, it's Chesney time or a desperation candidate, is Diaz out of the running yet?
If he's interested, great. If not, it's Chesney time or a desperation candidate, is Diaz out of the running yet?
Who says Ohio State lets him stay? Ole Miss didn't let Kiffin
And it's still a distraction to handle both
He’s universally respected as a top 2 DC. There with Phil Parker.
When his guys were focused and healthy, they were great. Not his fault this whole season unraveled. But the guy coached his *** off.
If I was in charge, I wouldn't let him stay. Coach one team at a time. Ole' Miss was absolutely right to say, "If you're leaving, you're not coaching here anymore." If it is Hartline, after the CCG makes sense. I'm a believer in, "you're either in or you're out." For example, Bill Frieder - Bo Schembechler - Steve Fisher.
Golesh hasn't really done anything special. Chesney is a better option from the lower HC ranks.
Maybe because we already had our guy?
Man, everyone is talking up Chesney. Honestly, I never heard of him until about a month ago, but there are some major Chesney fans on here. I sure hope they are right if he is the guy. He’s going to have a ton of pressure on him.
I agree and willing to see how the next 2 years go. Next year will be a s*** show with the transition.
People forget how mid Diaz’s first year was.
With a lot of NFL talent at all 3 levels of the defense they gave up over 400 yards rushing to Michigan. Purdue of all teams moved up and down the field. Wasn’t terrible but with twice the talent it wasn’t better than Knowles this year.
Never said it was, just stating a fact. I don't expect to hire someone just to preserve 2026, but if we don't announce anything this week the few remains of this high school class are goners.
Not everyone is going to sign during the early signing process
The new coach is also unlikely to close in 3 days--anyone that has interest in coming here can wait or rush--that's on them
I'm just saying that can't impact the timeline