He is not in over his head. There is no damage control. Damage control is relevant when there is something really bad that occurs. What has happened that is really bad? Stop over dramatizing this. You have no inside information on the search or what Kraft has done. It is not like there is some core group of highly rated guys in the '26 class that are all going to bail between now and next Sunday.Every day is an eternity. If the current players are getting frustrated, it’s only going to get worse internally. It’s damage control now. Kraft seems in over his head at this point.
There's downside... for OSU. So they may not allow that and if it's Hartline he certainly doesn't want to burn bridges as he likely is hoping to be the head coach there at some point.Exactly. If it were Hartline then they should announce it today and say he will join PSU after the CCG. If all is in place, there's no downside to announcing now and only upside. Just because he's announced doesn't mean he has to start immediately.
I actually think the fact that it hasn't been announced points away from Hartline. There's virtually no reason not to announce the hiring of a position coach. More likely that it's a current head coach* if there is an agreement in place but not announced.
*Edit: specifically a current head coach going into a CCG
We don't know but we don't know what has been communicated to current players and recruits.Pretty dramatic if you want to try to poach any players for early signing (or at least to keep any from signing and to stay in play for the later period) and to keep any good current players from leaving. The sooner the current team knows who will be coach next year, the easier it is to convince them to stay compared to complete uncertainty.
So we hire a coach today and we miraculously flip some kid in two days with a coach they don't even know who was committed to Michigan for 9 months for example?Well, the early signing period for HS recruits is Dec 3-5. It’s a total punt on that at this point and the current roster is getting restless.
It is not Meyer. C'mon be rational here.If it’s Meyer then they really botched it because he could have been named a month ago and assembled a nice recruiting class.
Try to keep up. As far as we are concerned, he already botched the hire.Maybe - just maybe - folks should wait until a HC is announced before deciding Kraft botched the search.
I’ve had a similar thought. Even though Chesney is my #1, I think it will be Hartline. And it’s possible that Hartline got bullied into holding off on the announcement until after the CCG so that OSU can keep their 2026 class together. Not that he was given that reasoning but that would be Day’s motivation.There's downside... for OSU. So they may not allow that and if it's Hartline he certainly doesn't want to burn bridges as he likely is hoping to be the head coach there at some point.
Sorry Krafty. I did realize that was you.He is not in over his head. There is no damage control. Damage control is relevant when there is something really bad that occurs. What has happened that is really bad? Stop over dramatizing this. You have no inside information on the search or what Kraft has done. It is not like there is some core group of highly rated guys in the '26 class that are all going to bail between now and next Sunday.
We are going to need to rebuild the roster and will need the new coach to bring guys with him while fully leveraging the portal. I am hopeful our best returning players stick with the program. I don't think one week makes a difference to guys like Howard, Cousins, Rapp, Reynolds, Denmark, Rojas, Coleman, Granville Dixon, Tatsch, etc
I was responding to another post that said he was still in play. It was sarcasm. I didn’t bring it up and I don’t think it is Meyer.It is not Meyer. C'mon be rational here.
Yep, that is where am. I tend to think it is Chesney also. Although I can see it being Hartline. I can see him leaving after the game vs Indiana this Saturday. Day could assume his responsibilities for their playoff run.This is exactly what I believe to be the case. I feel confident that we've got our man already and that those that need to know already know who it is. I think it's either Chesney or Hartline. IMO, it's Chesney.
They can't be trusted to not leak it. If I were Kraft I wouldn't tell them either.Well, obviously the current players are unaware of who it is.
If those two tweets are representative of the players Franklin recruited, PSU is in dire need of a purging.
This sounds like fantasy land from wishful Penn State fans trying to get Ohio State coaches.Could be both, Meyer as HC, already hired via an MOU or similar, with Hartline as OC/Coach-in-waiting. Which would explain why this wouldn't be announced until after the CCG at the earliest, and why there is no perceived rush.
90% of the meaningful recruits do sign in the early window though. If Kraft wants them to hold out for the late signing day he may have to spill the beans on the hire to them, which risks it being leaked. If I'm a recruit or a recruit's family I'm not waiting if I have other offers I like in hand purely based on promises that we already have our guy and it's someone I'll like. The business is too cutthroat to be that trusting. Besides, if I sign elsewhere and Kraft really does have the guy I like I can just transfer next year anyway.Not everyone is going to sign during the early signing process
The new coach is also unlikely to close in 3 days--anyone that has interest in coming here can wait or rush--that's on them
I'm just saying that can't impact the timeline
He's Russian. He might even be a Putin operative formerly named Boris Badenov.How did we not get involved with Golesh?
Goes from USF to Auburn? Not even a sniff?
The one week doesn't matter for the portal, it just impact the incoming high school kids. There was always a chance we could flip some of the decommits back to PSU if we announced a hire they like before signing day. If we wait a week that is no longer possible, and increases the numbers will need to get via transfer either from those that come along with the new coach, or from the portal in January.He is not in over his head. There is no damage control. Damage control is relevant when there is something really bad that occurs. What has happened that is really bad? Stop over dramatizing this. You have no inside information on the search or what Kraft has done. It is not like there is some core group of highly rated guys in the '26 class that are all going to bail between now and next Sunday.
We are going to need to rebuild the roster and will need the new coach to bring guys with him while fully leveraging the portal. I am hopeful our best returning players stick with the program. I don't think one week makes a difference to guys like Howard, Cousins, Rapp, Reynolds, Denmark, Rojas, Coleman, Granville Dixon, Tatsch, etc
I can see that and why it is probably Chesney over Hartline. I can see it being Hartline though, Krafty may have agreed to a request by Hartline to keep it quiet for a week and allow OSU to fully focus on the CCG and not create a media circus. We are only talking about 6 days, certainly plausible.Exactly. If it were Hartline then they should announce it today and say he will join PSU after the CCG. If all is in place, there's no downside to announcing now and only upside. Just because he's announced doesn't mean he has to start immediately.
I actually think the fact that it hasn't been announced points away from Hartline. There's virtually no reason not to announce the hiring of a position coach. More likely that it's a current head coach* if there is an agreement in place but not announced.
*Edit: specifically a current head coach going into a CCG
It is not Sitake.Also Sitake is in the B12 championship game …
But if it's Chesney why not announce it. That would provide some stability for our program. I mean he's at JMU and and his future employer, Penn State Football, is in a different stratosphere than JMU and we can't announce it. I don't get it.Yep, that is where am. I tend to think it is Chesney also. Although I can see it being Hartline. I can see him leaving after the game vs Indiana this Saturday. Day could assume his responsibilities for their playoff run.
I agree that I'd rather Chesney next week than most other options today (and especially Smith) but I'd rather Chesney today than him next week.
Doesn't matter in the big picture. Do we beat Michigan or Washington or USC next year if our coach was hired today but we lose to them if he is hired in a week?I agree that I'd rather Chesney next week than most other options today (and especially Smith) but I'd rather Chesney today than him next week.
You're right...everyone can just transfer again next year and maybe 2-3 freshman make a major impact so is it a big deal?90% of the meaningful recruits do sign in the early window though. If Kraft wants them to hold out for the late signing day he may have to spill the beans on the hire to them, which risks it being leaked. If I'm a recruit or a recruit's family I'm not waiting if I have other offers I like in hand purely based on promises that we already have our guy and it's someone I'll like. The business is too cutthroat to be that trusting. Besides, if I sign elsewhere and Kraft really does have the guy I like I can just transfer next year anyway.
Assuming you are right and it's Hartline, I don't expect him to bring a ton of recruits with him. Some, yes. But pulling a ton of players from a program like OSU would be very, very difficult, and we are going to need a ton of them.
The announcement doesn’t have to be next week. Sumrall was announced as the Florida coach today and he’s still coaching Tulane next week as far as I know.
Not your job to have heard of him. It is Kraft's. Most people probably had not heard of him two months ago but that doesn't mean he can't coach.Man, everyone is talking up Chesney. Honestly, I never heard of him until about a month ago, but there are some major Chesney fans on here. I sure hope they are right if he is the guy. He’s going to have a ton of pressure on him.
Not your job to tell us how to think.Not your job to have heard of him. It is Kraft's. Most people probably had not heard of him two months ago but that doesn't mean he can't coach.
It is definitely a coach involved in the playoff. Can't be anyone else at this point unless we hear an announcement on Monday or Tuesday (very doubtful). That leaves Chesney and Hartline. It is one of those two. I think it is Chesney. If not then I eat my words.The longer it drags on, the more I'd be convinced that it is a current head coach with a pending CCG who wants to do right by those players and not disrupt that. There would be no reason for a non-head coach not to leave or at least be announced.
Granted the same sentiment would also apply if said team is going to the CFP but if you are going to take over a new team, you can't wait until late December to get going. So I think in the slim chance the coach in question is heading a CFP team, they'd have to leave before the playoffs.
So anyway, I'm guessing that if Kraft is actually organized and doing a good job that it is Chesney or Sitake (or I guess DeBour as a huge longshot). If someone is not already in the bag then Kraft has f'ed up big time.
Edit: I'd also put Diaz as a real possibility as one of the coaches with a game next week.
Ya think? By the way we won't know for at least a year and more than likely two years.Maybe - just maybe - folks should wait until a HC is announced before deciding Kraft botched the search.
They can't be trusted to not leak it. If I were Kraft I wouldn't tell them either.
They can't be trusted to not leak it. If I were Kraft I wouldn't tell them either.
Nope, can't tell some 20 year old kid who is spending all their free time on Instagram.They can't be trusted to not leak it. If I were Kraft I wouldn't tell them either.
He has a championship game and then highly likely his season is over. Kraft could have agreed to wait a week. I know the Tulane guy was announced but different personalities. Also Tulane has a better shot at the playoff vs JMU so they did it now. Chesney may not have to look like he bailed on his playoff team by waiting a week.But if it's Chesney why not announce it. That would provide some stability for our program. I mean he's at JMU and and his future employer, Penn State Football, is in a different stratosphere than JMU and we can't announce it. I don't get it.
I agree because he could leave now and bring some players with him.Probably not going to happen but I’m a Brian Hartline fan to get hired by PSU.
If Kraft agreed to wait a week so to not hurt feelings at JMU, then he’s not qualified to be the AD at PSU, cause that’s absolutely insane, which i highly doubt that’s the case. Signing day is Wednesday, if Chesney is the hire then he starts immediately. This is Penn State for godsake. Ohio State would never think like this.He has a championship game and then highly likely his season is over. Kraft could have agreed to wait a week. I know the Tulane guy was announced but different personalities. Also Tulane has a better shot at the playoff vs JMU so they did it now. Chesney may not have to look like he bailed on his playoff team by waiting a week.
If the recruits are gone thats on TerryAt this point the entire search has been botched regardless of the pick. All the recruits are gone, the seniors are gone, and a good number of kids are going to portal out, no matter who he gets. Kraft failed.
Hate to burst your bubble, however a “know it all” on this board stated that Hartline blew the interview.Probably not going to happen but I’m a Brian Hartline fan to get hired by PSU.
If the recruits are gone thats on Terry
Of course the seniors are gone and kids will.portal out...that will happen everywhere with a change.
It 100% isTerry isn't the head coach. It isn't the interim's job to hold a recruiting class together.
Agree it is. You act like your thé boss and show your boss hey look I can do it l. I’m the guy.It 100% is
It 100% is
Why did every other coach in his position hold the class together?Agree to disagree. He isn't the head coach, isn't going to be the head coach next year and everyone knows it, including commits. He has absolutely nothing he can sell them (not his fault). This time next month Terry is gonna be showing up to work in maroon. Lame ducks gonna lame duck.
At least Franklin is gone though...
Terry isn't the head coach. It isn't the interim's job to hold a recruiting class together.