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PSUForever

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I know very little about Sitake. He has that Freshman QB playing well so can he attract QBs? Does BYU have a power oriented culture?

My biggest concern is I don't know if the guy has ever set foot in PA or has any recruiting connections in our footprint?

Is he denying this or avoiding the question?
 

Alphalion75

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Super--I feel better that he's likable and a nice guy. That will win games. You can be the best coach in the world but if you ain't got the talent then you are an also-ran. Recruiting is going to nose-dive and I'm not even including this year's class.
When he brings 5 star QB Ryder Lyons with him, maybe you'll feel better.
 

PSU4U

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So he’s a scumbag for digging us out from under crushing sanctions and putting our program back on the map giving us double digit wins three of the last four years? Wow, what a scumbag.
No, he's a scumbag for the **** he and his lacky's who are leaving with him pulled weeks before he was even fired. You know full well about those things as they have been very well discussed on this board. Things that people like to ignore.
 

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College football and college wrestling are two completely worlds. How is this guy going to go in to Philly and recruit + NIL?

Fire Kraft. Just give it to Terry and let the next AD try a competent search. This SCREAMS desperation.
If he brings a bunch of pipe hittin’ Tongans and other Pacific Islanders, though. That demographic is no joke - we won’t be light on the D Line - that’s for sure
 

Blair10

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True but coaching is coaching
Trust me, I prefer Hartline but Sitake wins--that's all I care about. I'm sure he'll build a staff with ties to the area. Dude is very likeable.

It looks like you are taking some unnecessary shots from some posters. I must have missed something though. What on earth does a coach’s religion have to do with football? I don’t get why religion is even mentioned on a discussion board about Penn State Football. Religion simply is not relevant.
 
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PSU4U

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Don't see any real upside with Sitake.

Never coached east of Arizona. Virtually zero recruiting east of the Mississippi.
He recruits at a religious school where his roster is heavily skewed towards that religion and almost exclusively Utah and West. It's a dry campus with an honor code that runs very counter to student life at Penn State.

He isn't going to bring a bunch of his own players with him and he's going to have to recruit an entirely different set of kids geographically and culturally than he's used to.
I have serious doubts about this whole thing nothing I have a word on or can prove but it just doesn't smell right. I think I would be looking another direction and probably not Heuple.
 

KingLando

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It looks like you are taking some unnecessary shots from some posters. I must have missed something though. What on earth does a coach’s religion have to do with football? I don’t get why religion is even mentioned on a discussion board about Penn State Football. Religion simply is not relevant.
I have no clue why anyone cares about his religion
The culture comments are deplorable and speak to their being an issue with our fan base.
 

olelion

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agreed. he is now playing with fire because of signing day. I know it doesn't mean much because the kids csan turn around and portal. But let's be honest, how many kinds on BYU commit list and flipping to the portal over xmas because that dude comes here?

Right now, JF has found a big game he can finally win at and the score is currently JF 56 PK 0.
JF wants to win badly with the kids he's poached from PSU. IT WOULD BE A DOUBLE FINGER to all of Penn State
 
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KingLando

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JF wants to win badly with the kids he's poached from PSU. IT WOULD BE A DOUBLE FINGER to all of Penn State
Hopefully they realize he's using them--they won't though--still don't know if Drew learned that lesson
 

SouthHalls410

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Last I checked, bigotry and hatred are alive and well in the Penn State fan base.
Exactly! I’m tired of reading about a Coach’s religion. JoePa was an Italian American Catholic from NY, who the eff cares (Btw I’m an Italian-Irish Catholic woman yinzer who hates Notre Dame University). There are many PA residents who are from The Church of the LDS. Western PA has a very large church near Cranberry and state college has a church too. Just burn the white smoke and let’s get a coach. Btw, I like the BYU coach after reading lots about him.
 

PSUForever

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Feels like people don't like him because he's Mormon
I don't care if he is Mormon. Can he recruit, manage the portal, attract elite QBs and WRs and have a physical win at the line of scrimmage culture that he instills?

I have to believe there is a very small Mormon community in State College. Will he and his family like it in SC? Will it be a good fit? BYU and Penn State are very different institutions and communities. These are legitimate questions.
 

fastlax16

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I have no clue why anyone cares about his religion
The culture comments are deplorable and speak to their being an issue with our fan base.

Culture =/= religion.

Having cultural concerns about hiring someone who has spent essentially their entire adult life thousands of miles away at an institution with dramatically different values isn't deplorable.

You hear about poor cultural fits all the time when senior executives change companies and there's nothing deplorable about it. If you spent your whole career at IBM, you may have trouble if you move to Facebook. Different organizations have very different organizational behavior.
 
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KingLando

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Culture =/= religion.

Having cultural concerns about hiring someone who has spent essentially their entire adult life thousands of miles away at an institution with dramatically different values isn't deplorable.

You hear about poor cultural fits all the time when senior executives change companies and there's nothing deplorable about it. If you spent your whole career at IBM, you may have trouble if you move to Facebook. Different organizations have very different organizational behavior.
Some use "culture" instead of saying reigion.
What is his culture that can't be embraced here? Tell me...
And maybe need a drastic change in our "behavior"
 

Erial_Lion

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I don’t think there’s much to that quote. He would probably say the same thing whether he’s really interested in the Penn State job or if he has no interest and just wants BYU to pony up some more money. If he was definitely staying and not looking for more money then he would say “I’m not leaving”, especially being so close to signing day.
Yea, that's the opposite of a "strong denial".
 

LB99

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Exactly! I’m tired of reading about a Coach’s religion. JoePa was an Italian American Catholic from NY, who the eff cares (Btw I’m an Italian-Irish Catholic woman yinzer who hates Notre Dame University). There are many PA residents who are from The Church of the LDS. Western PA has a very large church near Cranberry and state college has a church too. Just burn the white smoke and let’s get a coach. Btw, I like the BYU coach after reading lots about him.
I like you even more now that I know you are a ND hating Yinzer! 🍻
 

fastlax16

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Some use "culture" instead of saying reigion.
What is his culture that can't be embraced here? Tell me...
And maybe need a drastic change in our "behavior"

so you don’t think there are large cultural differences between a giant party school where drinking is a pillar of student life and a religious institution that requires students abstain from alcohol, sex and coffee?
 

KingLando

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so you don’t think there are large cultural differences between a giant party school where drinking is a pillar of student life and a religious institution that requires students abstain from alcohol, sex and coffee?
I think it's infinitely easier to transition from that to this and now recruit without those obstacles. He's coached at Utah and Oregon State. This isn't his first experience with a party school if he accepts or is offered.
 

Erial_Lion

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No, he's a scumbag for the **** he and his lacky's who are leaving with him pulled weeks before he was even fired. You know full well about those things as they have been very well discussed on this board. Things that people like to ignore.
Do you realize how much crap we read on these boards is false?

Somehow, Jerry Sandusky gets convicted of 40+ crimes by a jury but people will believe he's fully innocent. Whereas someone that's willing to pay the $10 for a blue checkmark on twitter has to be speaking the truth.
 

VT00

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Some use "culture" instead of saying reigion.
What is his culture that can't be embraced here? Tell me...
And maybe need a drastic change in our "behavior"
In fairness, regional cultural fits are definitely a thing (which is relevant in this case), but I fully agree with you on everything else.
 

Player2BNamedL8r

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Who do you think it is?
Hartline makes the most sense to me based on how things have gone to this point. He’s likely been a hard guy to pull away from his alma mater, so contingencies have been put in place (waiting until he’s ready, etc) to ease the separation from a place that seemingly means a lot to him.
 
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Deboer has 0 ties to the east coast except for being at Alabama the past 2 years. He was in Big Ten territory as an assistant at Indiana and at Southern Illinois and Eastern Michigan as he worked his way up the coaching ladder.

Sitake just seems like a BYU lifer. His entire coaching career has not only been all west coast but it’s been almost all Utah only. He’s been coaching in the state of Utah every year since 2002 except for 2015 at Oregon St. 22 of the last 23 years in Utah only (at BYU, Utah, and Southern Utah).
Deboer coached at Indiana for one year and eastern Michigan 2 years that’s not exactly east coast/DMV area. He also had no ties in the south before Alabama hired him.
 

fastlax16

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I think it's infinitely easier to transition from that to this and now recruit without those obstacles. He's coached at Utah and Oregon State. This isn't his first experience with a party school if he accepts or is offered.
He spent 1 year at Oregon State and Utah is absolutely not a party school. It has a dry campus and over 80% of the students are commuters.
 

KingLando

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He spent 1 year at Oregon State and Utah is absolutely not a party school. It has a dry campus and over 80% of the students are commuters.
Have you been to UU? There's tons of drinking and parties just like every other major state university. At least you didn't try to argue Oregon State