Immediately in place to announce on Sunday November 30. That is the day that competent ADs announce new coaches. Schools know you get the guy signed before Thanksgiving and you announce right after the last games of the year.
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Disagree. It is in everyone's best interest - especially the coach coming in if they want to "hit the ground running" to be successful - to announce ASAP. This is even more true for PSU specifically given how decimated our recruiting class is for this year so the new HC needs to do a ton of work to sign anyone they can, keep players currently on the roster, and hit the portal very hard.
They offered BIG money and other things and the offer was serious and legit. Kraft is nearing the end and the picking is getting slim. As I see it the most likely left on the board that we know of would be Deboer Brohm The guy from the Giants Daboll and Terry Smith. I still do not see Hartline as a real candidate. IMO something better happen this coming Sunday at the latest.
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I guess. But we're the only school who had to deal with a James Franklin.
Yea, it's no big deal, that's why PSU would become the first P4 program in history to have this dubious occurrence?
Hartline has been a pain in our arse for years now. Getting him has a lot of upside.
Yeah, can't disagree.
I don't think this thing has gone anywhere near what most of us thought it would. It seems every time Kraft had a window to jump through, he ran into the wall. I think at this point if it's not Terry Smith it will either be a miracle hire or low hanging fruit. Kraft has done everything possible to keep from Hirirng Terry Smith and that may be his ultimate undoing unless he pulls this out of the fire, and imo it is shaping up to be a dumpster fire of a search.
CBS reporting the Sitake decision won’t happen until after BYU’s championship game this weekend and there optimism on the BYU side that he will stay.
So another week on top of this no coach. Kraft continuing to nuke the program into oblivion.
So another week on top of this no coach. Kraft continuing to nuke the program into oblivion.
Terry smith is not going to accept an intermediate contract, whatever that is.
You're blaming Franklin for Kraft's failure now? That's taking your personal animus to a new level.
If Kraft really is trying to sign Sitake - I'm dubious because of how stupid this has all been - and this is the reply then you dump him and move on to Brohm or Diaz or whomever else you have been talking to. Signing someone right now is more important than dangling in the win for the hopes of signing someone you think is "better".
And I'm skeptical that Sitake is really all that good of a choice.
None Zero Zip Nadda.Still no word of an emergency bot meeting?
Maybe… a truck filled with onion dip just left Old Main!Still no word of an emergency bot meeting?
Franklin is one component. And maybe it's not necessarily just him - I can't recall a time when a coach was fired after four games and rehired somewhere else within the next month; maybe it's timing. But, I've never seen an entire class collapse like this when a coach was fired. Never.
I am sure that any coach that eventually signs with PSU would have liked to opportunity to have pitched recruits for this 2026 class. It is very damaging to a program to have no recruits for an entire cycle. It is very difficult to make up the difference with quality recruits in future recruiting classes. It puts the new HC in a bad position.
Well, that's like your opinion, man.
If Kraft is still interviewing people on Dec 2 then he is even more lost than I thought.
The Governor of LA had the LSU AD, Jeff Landry, canned for far less incompetence. It is beyond time for the PSU President and BOT to step in, fire Kraft immediately, name Smith the new HC and let him get busy trying to triage this situation.... if the Fiduciaries at PSU refuse to fulfill their oblugations to PSU, the PA Governor should step in. This is ridiculous and pathetic what they are allowing this empty-suit hack executive do to PSU's program.
Saturday night:
Kraft: So, Kalani, what do you say?
Sitake:
Kraft:
*end call*
Kraft: [admin’s name], get me Matt Rhule on the phone right away. If he doesn’t answer, get me Al Golden. If he doesn’t answer, get me Jay Paterno.
Kraft: So, Kalani, what do you say?
Sitake:
Kraft:
*end call*
Kraft: [admin’s name], get me Matt Rhule on the phone right away. If he doesn’t answer, get me Al Golden. If he doesn’t answer, get me Jay Paterno.
Hindsight is 50/50 but Kraft screwed up the timing for two reasons-
1 (less of an issue) the VT opening presented a landing spot too close to home and it predictably resulted in creating a new legitimate recruiting threat in our on our key geographies
2 (real issue) our opening gave potential candidates months to negotiate extensions at a time when they weren't in positions to sign a contract with us an the optics of not accepting an extension would have been incredibly poor PR. It absolutely shrunk the candidate pool.
How is Franklin a snake? School fired him, he owes Penn State nothing from that point forward. Your employer isn't your family, everyone should take care of themselves.
Not to mention that it puts the coach in the unenviable position of attempting to pitch elite recruits - including both HS and X-Fer Portal - in the next cycle after his team could very easily go 0-12 in 2026.
Anytime you lose a FatRat that is a terrible thing. There go our APR numbers...
Hire Hartline now as I think he would take it. Got to get this dumpster fire put out.
Working behind the scenes and around his boss to get raises and extensions while employed at Penn State is snake-like behavior. So is playing the victim on GameDay after losing two games when favored by 20+ points.
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Why would a Franklin family member use your board name? Is that suppose to be something that hides your hidden agenda?
Go to the VT board and get over it.. BGJ was fired! He’s gone! Not coming back!
The recruiting class is a disaster, no doubt. VT might have their best class ever with a coach that got hired midseason. Kraft has screwed this up royally, nothing else to say. He needs to sway Chesney or Hartline at this point to put an end to the misery.
Long term harm now is being done to this program. It is absolutely amazing that schools like MSU can fire a coach one day and hire a new coach the very next day. PSU desrves to be ridiculed for what has happened.
I still can’t comprehend the strategy of having no recruiting class. How was he ever allowed to do this. Regardless of whom they hire, you can’t have a class of no recruits. Does he assume he can get guys to decommit in January to sign with PSU? This also assumes PSU has a coach at that point.
If Sitake was staying with BYU he wouldn’t wait until after the championship game to announce a decision.
Wouldn't that theoretically be a small sign that PSU still has a legitimate chance to sign him? If he were convinced in his heart to stay at BYU at this point, why not announce ASAP in order to remove all distractions for his players in their CCG prep? Obviously, though, the timeline is terrible for PSU's football operations. If he announced he was leaving, a coach would more likely want to do that after a championship game rather than before it.
I still have low confidence about this hire coming to fruition, however. I would like to see Kraft more open to coordinators that are risky but have higher ceilings than what is left out there in the head coaching ranks.
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It's not over but the rebuild could be more difficult than coming back from sanctions. My guess is 3 years.