Unfortunately this means Howle will become the next OC that becomes an idiot before 2 years are upHe wants yes men, not the best men.
Unfortunately this means Howle will become the next OC that becomes an idiot before 2 years are upHe wants yes men, not the best men.
I can understand their fans wanting to hire an experienced play-caller. We would be saying the same thing. But, I do think Ty has a lot of potential to become a very good play-caller. He's been getting prepared for this for quite a while at this point.
Howle seems like a desperation hire. Don't think any serious OCs want to work under JF.Howle and Pry - woof, man. Taking the risk on a first-time play caller and pulling Pry off the heap. Does anyone know what Franklin's staff salary pool is? Seems like he's working on a budget.
It always seemed like the opponents were guaranteed points on their first drives of the second half with Pry running the defense.Eh, was he though? Decent enough, sure. But Manny and Allen took it to a whole new level.
2016… 37
2017…17
2018…34
2019…37
2020…17
2021…39
2022…17
2023… 2
2024….7
Pry had some baffling and frustrating characteristics as our DC - 4th quarter meltdowns, allowing average QBs to go nuclear, playing guys out of position, bizarre substitution patterns, the delayed safety blitzes. I honestly can't remember Manny or Allen having those full blown meltdowns like Pry's squads did - over the past 3-4 seasons, it's been our offense that has let us down in big moments vs defense.
OSU/MSU/USC 4th quarter meltdowns, the Minny game in 2019, Memphis 40+ points, App State, Illinois 7 OL and no adjustments.
It seems like Ty Howle is heading to VT to be Franklin’s OC. Big loss for us but congrats to Ty for a big promotion.
Yeah a lot of revisionist history going on in calling Pry a good DC. He was average at best. I’ll never forget 2017 season giving up 34 second half points to a 4-6 Nebraska team who had just announced they fired Mike Reilly. Also the Ohio State come from behinds. Manny came in and put this defense to another level. Id probably prefer Tom Allen over Pry for that matterEh, was he though? Decent enough, sure. But Manny and Allen took it to a whole new level.
2016… 37
2017…17
2018…34
2019…37
2020…17
2021…39
2022…17
2023… 2
2024….7
Pry had some baffling and frustrating characteristics as our DC - 4th quarter meltdowns, allowing average QBs to go nuclear, playing guys out of position, bizarre substitution patterns, the delayed safety blitzes. I honestly can't remember Manny or Allen having those full blown meltdowns like Pry's squads did - over the past 3-4 seasons, it's been our offense that has let us down in big moments vs defense.
OSU/MSU/USC 4th quarter meltdowns, the Minny game in 2019, Memphis 40+ points, App State, Illinois 7 OL and no adjustments.
It's not a matter of if, but when, BGJ will throw them under the bus.Howle seems like a desperation hire. Don't think any serious OCs want to work under JF.
Vt will get real tired of BGJ real fast.Pry going from VT o VT is a mistake. The first game the defense looks bad the fans will be calling for his head. It gives the team no slack.
Doubt he had other optionsPry going from VT o VT is a mistake.
Not sure I agree. VTech is a middle of the pack team in a mid conference. They shouldn't have the high expectations.Vt will get real tired of BGJ real fast.
Doubt VT cares about a fired coach's options. VT had options.Doubt he had other options
Losing Chuck Losey would be a hit to this program. PSU always developed players physically at a very high athletic level.
Losing Chuck Losey would be a hit to this program. PSU always developed players physically at a very high athletic level.
They are that right now, but some remember the Beamer days and will expect VT to be in the mix for ACC titles. Franklin can get them to that point and maybe pretty quickly. He’ll do a fine job there. The ACC is wide open and he’ll have them competing.Not sure I agree. VTech is a middle of the pack team in a mid conference. They shouldn't have the high expectations.
We have yet to see Olesh. Tough to evaluate him. He was the #1 overall PA recruit in the 2025 class according to 24/7. Very high 4/ almost 5 star TE that Franklin flipped from his Michigan commitment last minute. I’d like to see what the kid has. I hope he sticks around.Confirmed. I wonder if Olesh or Reynolds will follow him? Of the three, I want to keep Rapp.best all-round of the three. Lots of movig parts between now and Spring practice.
Ty did a very nice job recruiting for us . Our new guys might think the DMV is the Dakotas, Montana , Vancouver.
Olesh hasn’t played yet.Howle and Pry - woof, man. Taking the risk on a first-time play caller and pulling Pry off the heap. Does anyone know what Franklin's staff salary pool is? Seems like he's working on a budget.
Good stuff for Howle. Tough to lose an alum. We'll miss his TE development. Hopefully we can keep Rapp, it's early in their careers but Reynolds and Olesh haven't moved the needle really. Olesh is from PA so it'd be nice to see if he can stick and develop here. Rapp has gotten better as the year went on.
I think we should probably understand that recruiting is fluid. Just because a coach shows up in a PSU shirt doesn’t mean the kid is automatically going to go there over VT. As we have seen, Franklin builds relationships with the families, much like Paterno did. The kids stay loyal to him, as we have experienced recently. He will be a factor in recruiting in the DMV. As for the comment on him not being able to get the elite blue chip guys in PA, I’m not really sure what you are referring to? Barkley, Sanders, Parsons, Carter, Olesh, J’Ven Williams, Singleton, Menet, and a few others were considered “elite” recruits out of PA and they, along with some other PA guys, were the backbone of PSU for the last 10 years. Everybody bitched when he lost out on Fleming and Rucci. How did that turn out? PA does not have the depth in talent it used to have. C’mon man. I get it. It’s beat the dead horse here day after day. You hate Franklin. Got it. But if coaches underestimate him with recruiting, he will get his fair share of big recruits at VT. They have invested a lot more into their athletics department too. He’s going to be a challenge to recruit against.A counter for what? Virginia Tech is 2-3 tiers below Penn State. They haven't been relevant in 2 decades. Again, he's going to do well there - but they aren't going to be able to go head to head with PSU, OSU, Michigan, Clemson, Bama, Georgia, etc. with the elite blue chip guys. Franklin wasn't even able to do that in PA at PSU.
Exactly.We fired him for a reason and have an upgrade in MC, but do not underestimate his ability to be a thorn in our side recruiting that region. We need some coaching assistants with ties to the high school programs in that region. PA and NJ are not enough for us.
Losing Chuck Losey would be a hit to this program. PSU always developed players physically at a very high athletic level.
Good one.It appears Tengwell understands what the DMV is.
He can for sure. Its not like there are teams like OSU and Oregon in the ACC. Is Miami back for sure? Can FSU and Clemson make it back? Pitt? Just seems like a rotation at the top.They are that right now, but some remember the Beamer days and will expect VT to be in the mix for ACC titles. Franklin can get them to that point and maybe pretty quickly. He’ll do a fine job there. The ACC is wide open and he’ll have them competing.
Soul crushingDanny O’brien will follow BGJ to VT
We are ……. BetterDanny O’brien will follow BGJ to VT
Thank goodness!Danny O’brien will follow BGJ to VT
I didn’t believe it until I just read Thamel’s post on X. James is really trying to re-create all of this in Blacksburg and do it all over again, probably to try to prove everybody wrong. O’brien ruined Allar. There are strong rumors out there that Hagans is going down there as well. Thank God Kraft had the stones to fire Franklin. I think he’s lost his mind. This is the definition of insanity.Danny O’brien will follow BGJ to VT
I think you're really close.Just reading tea leaves, and seeing which assistant coaches have been removed from iowa state directory. That’s a good indicator of who is coming
OC/TE coach - Taylor Mouser. I do wonder if Campbell makes a splash and gets Scheelhaase as OC or someone else. That would mean Mouser would simply replace Howle
OL - Clanton. This is obvious
RB?? ISU coach still listed in their directory
QB?? Jake Waters turn us down again?
WR- Noah Pauley
DC- Heacock still listed and retweeting ISU stuff. Knowles staying? Don’t want to pay buyout?
DL - ISU coach still listed and tweets ISU stuff. Barnes staying?
LB - Connor staying?
SAF- Deon Broomfield
AHC -Corners - Terry Smith
BGJ just needs to hire Locksley to reassemble the Maryland Boyz (Friedgen is unavailable)Danny O’brien will follow BGJ to VT
No way he keeps AK. It’s either going to be Mouser, Scheelhaase who used to be his OC before taking an NFL job, or someone else.I think you're really close.
RB: Stan Drayton
QB: A new outsider or Trace Mc. I'll go with outsider.
DC: Knowles (but Campbell will have an understudy on staff for 2027)
OC: Campbell might like and want to keep AK. It will be interesting to see if MC values Taylor Mouser over Andy Kotelnicki. I don't get the Scheelhaase love.
Once James gets hold of the play sheet on the sidelines you know it’s over for the OC and offenseUnfortunately this means Howle will become the next OC that becomes an idiot before 2 years are up
AK w/Kansas beat MC in 2022 and 2023. I don't see NS coming back to college football until he's fired.No way he keeps AK. It’s either going to be Mouser, Scheelhaase who used to be his OC before taking an NFL job, or someone else.