Apparently right around when Collins was going to sign, we added a revision to his contract that his camp hasnt agreed on yet....
New Collins Update :(
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Yeah... Just started reading up on the Revenue share money... The schools have a lot of room. They can work up a contract that's basiclly performance based, number of games played and so forth... Might be some of the rumbles we are hearing about JMI getting involved in all Of this.
Is that from Twitter? Would love to read more about this.
I’m wondering if there is more NIL issues behind the scene than we’re being told about.
Pope was unproven recruiting the highest level of payers at BYU. I’m hoping that isn’t being compounded by JMI/behind the scenes hiccups.
I’m wondering if there is more NIL issues behind the scene than we’re being told about.
Pope was unproven recruiting the highest level of payers at BYU. I’m hoping that isn’t being compounded by JMI/behind the scenes hiccups.
No wonder Mitch doesn't want to discuss the JMI details.
Mitch Barnhart cannot be out of here fast enough.
It’s old info though. Trilly said this around signing day as did a few others. Said he told other schools it was Kentucky just was working out contract details.
Multiple rumblings but none from reputable sources that Pope gets players to the 1 yard line when recruiting them and then the NIL contract details can't get them over the goal line. Some blame JMI, some say we have the money on paper, make the offer, and when we go to ink the deal the staff is told we actually don't have the money "yet" to put in the contract. Don't know what to make of it or how much of it is true. But you don't offer multiple guys a significantly higher NIL deal (as reported and rumored) to see every single one end up somewhere else for (presumably) less money. That's why I will never believe the 22 Million dollar roster number. It may look like that on paper, but there is no chance we actually spent that and ended up with a roster full of bench players and projects.
Thank you for some sanity finally. Can’t believe so many are gullible enough to think our staff had twenty-two million dollars to use as they please and got this result.
Eventually all their excuses for why they keep predicting players to Kentucky that Kentucky cannot land will run out and all of you will realize this is a strategy to keep you all engaged as long as possible in a product that can no longer meet your expectations. I say you, because I no longer have expectations of this program.
Which makes me think the JMI deal is trash meant to enrich Mitch and his associates and hamstring the actual players it’s supposed to help. You don’t miss on every huge player you recruit with a supposed budget we have without major issues.
Pope has friends in the media who will paint him a rosy picture of him as the walls cave in. If Pope was really getting recruits to the 1 yard line....we would be in the final 2 or 3 in way more recruiting battles. The reality is we are dismissed early on.
Don’t have access, but Polachek just posted an article about Christian Collins regarding NIL. From the tea leaves on Twitter, it sounds like NIL is a problem for us. If we keep missing out on recruits coupled with the ****** on court performance, this program is in real danger of falling further behind. So frustrating!!
Meh
Polachek: "I haven’t changed my RPM for Collins to Kentucky."
Polachek: "I haven’t changed my RPM for Collins to Kentucky."
No way we had $22 million for this roster. Just don’t see how we lose all our major targets, yet all these stories pop up of how much we paid, while then not getting the guaranteed guys we were supposed to get because of the same NIL.
I am not sure what to believe although I do tend to believe the reported 22 million for this years team. Too many reports from too many people to dismiss that number. The bigger concern for me is that maybe player evaluation by Pope and our staff is the real problem.
If, a big If, it is true that JMI is now controlling the final steps in the recruiting process then why would any coach agree to come here, including Pope? Seems a little farfetched.
If, a big If, it is true that JMI is now controlling the final steps in the recruiting process then why would any coach agree to come here, including Pope? Seems a little farfetched.
Yes ... I've been saying that something just doesn't make sense. Mitch seems very testy when pressed. His push back will only invite more questions, and it should. I sincerely hope this damn thing doesn't explode into some national scandal. There does seem to be oddities that will require answers ... sooner the better.
If UK didn't get his signature on a letter of intent during the early signing period, they are not getting him.
Other schools can get in the mix and UK won't be as appealing if they have a disappointing season. Also, his thinking and priorities could shift in a totally new direction.
Other schools can get in the mix and UK won't be as appealing if they have a disappointing season. Also, his thinking and priorities could shift in a totally new direction.
I heard from anon it said that in the last sentence of their contracts all their money will go to Mitch FarnBart. Most of them don’t read the last sentence but the big players got agents that do that for them. Jk I’ll admit the obvious sarcasm. But on a honest note I do think we might not actually have that much money to offer. I mean the proof is in the pudding or however the saying goes.
I heard he dont miss from the 3 pt line
I wonder if things get caught up in NIL Go and getting approval. SEC football teams were bypassing that all together according to an Ole Miss reporter. Said some schools couldn't get money to their players, other schools were saying the hell with it and paying the money.
Some of it is gullibility but a lot of it is just more nonsense to bolster hating Pope.
Donovan Dent
Braden Smith
Lamar Wilkerson
Caleb Wilson
Tyran Stokes
Chaz Lanier
Deron Rippey Jr.
We've been rumored to be leading for all of these guys at some point. I'll believe Pope can snag a big fish (AKA, "primary target" for those of who will moronically point to Dent's early-year stats) when I see it. At present, Pope is a mediocre recruiter by Kentucky standards (BCG and late-Tubby years level), at best.
Braden Smith
Lamar Wilkerson
Caleb Wilson
Tyran Stokes
Chaz Lanier
Deron Rippey Jr.
We've been rumored to be leading for all of these guys at some point. I'll believe Pope can snag a big fish (AKA, "primary target" for those of who will moronically point to Dent's early-year stats) when I see it. At present, Pope is a mediocre recruiter by Kentucky standards (BCG and late-Tubby years level), at best.
This board has the most negative group of people I have ever seen. Unreal. You all must lead sad lives.
There’s two options and neither makes Pope look good.
1.) we don’t have enough NIL and we keep getting outbid for the best players. (Another poster swears we haven’t been outbid for a single player)
2.) we do have enough nil and pope is just horrible managing money and knowing how much and where to spend it. It seemed like there was a ceiling that Pope wouldn’t go above for Wilson and Dent. He misses out on plan A and B at every position. Then he’s desperate and goes out and way overpays for most of the guys on the roster.
Take your pick. Either is bad.
Yep, I used to think the board was like 25% of just negative Nellie’s who had good intentions.
I now see we have about 25% of those, about 25% of fake fans or trolls from other schools and probably another 25% who don’t believe a damn thing they say and it’s just something to talk about. Literally zero consistency on anything.
Well, I most certainly am not. But I at least make an attempt at it. I dont know if you were throwing a rock or not, but having consistency is important to me. But I will absolutely admit when I’m proven wrong. Hell, I’ve got a hello kitty logo to prove it.
Na man just messing with you. You are consistent but I wasn’t throwing a rock.
Gullible or Naive. Some schools were spending millions before NIL. I would not be suprised at what the amount was.
Some of ya’ll need to stop being so delusional and just accept that someone paid over $20 million for this mess.
No matter how much you keep trying to suggest that this that number isn’t true, everyone else, the media, other fanbases will shove that factoid down your throat every chance you get and denying it just makes our fanbase look pathetic.
Some of you need to stop being so emo
You know what can change that? Not losing 7 of the last 8 games to the ranked teams that we have played.
If it’s about JMI and NIL it’s 100% one of the KSR guys 100% of the time.
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Yea I don’t see anybody trolling besides the obvious ones. If we were all on here speaking positive about what we have seen that would be more like a troll.