New High School Academic Ratings

[615dawg]

Might be of some interest on here. For reference, a score of 200 is considered a great school. Anything below 140 is seriously bad. 141-170 is debatable, 171-200 is good. Oktibbeha County schools SUCK. Both high schools in the bottom 10.<div>
</div><div>And Madison Central beats Clinton again.
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</div><div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">State's top 25 high schools</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">
</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">1. Petal 241</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">2. Lewisburg (Desoto County) 239</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">3. Pass Christian 235</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">4. Madison Central 231</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">5. Clinton 229</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Oak Grove 229</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">7. West Lauderdale 228</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">8. Center Hill 225</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Hancock 225</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">10. Desoto Central 224</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Long Beach 224</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">12. Corinth 223</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">13. South Pontotoc 221</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">14. Booneville 220</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">15. St. Martin 219</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Pearl 219</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Kossuth 219</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">18. D'Iberville 216</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Hernando 216</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Oxford 216</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">21. Union 215</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Northwest Rankin 215</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">23. Enterprise 214</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">24. Saltillo 213</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">25. Ridgeland 212</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">
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</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">10 Worst High Schools in Mississippi</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">1. Williams Sullivan 81</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">2. Drew Hunter 88</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">3. Okolona 95</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">4. East Oktibbeha 96</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">5. Yazoo Ciity 96</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">6. Heidelberg 100</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">7. Kemper County 101</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Coahoma County 101</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">9. West Oktibbeha 104</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">10. South Leake 106</div></div></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">
</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">ETA: The list above is just high schools. The best school in the state is Sumner Hill Junior High in Clinton at 257.</div>

 

[615dawg]

Might be of some interest on here. For reference, a score of 200 is considered a great school. Anything below 140 is seriously bad. 141-170 is debatable, 171-200 is good. Oktibbeha County schools SUCK. Both high schools in the bottom 10.<div>
</div><div>And Madison Central beats Clinton again.
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</div><div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">State's top 25 high schools</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">
</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">1. Petal 241</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">2. Lewisburg (Desoto County) 239</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">3. Pass Christian 235</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">4. Madison Central 231</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">5. Clinton 229</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Oak Grove 229</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">7. West Lauderdale 228</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">8. Center Hill 225</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Hancock 225</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">10. Desoto Central 224</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Long Beach 224</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">12. Corinth 223</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">13. South Pontotoc 221</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">14. Booneville 220</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">15. St. Martin 219</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Pearl 219</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Kossuth 219</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">18. D'Iberville 216</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Hernando 216</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Oxford 216</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">21. Union 215</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Northwest Rankin 215</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">23. Enterprise 214</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">24. Saltillo 213</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">25. Ridgeland 212</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">
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</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">10 Worst High Schools in Mississippi</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">1. Williams Sullivan 81</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">2. Drew Hunter 88</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">3. Okolona 95</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">4. East Oktibbeha 96</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">5. Yazoo Ciity 96</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">6. Heidelberg 100</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">7. Kemper County 101</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Coahoma County 101</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">9. West Oktibbeha 104</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">10. South Leake 106</div></div></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">
</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">ETA: The list above is just high schools. The best school in the state is Sumner Hill Junior High in Clinton at 257.</div>

 

[Dawg4Life]

Link please.

 

[DerHntr]

also, Haley Barbour say "them casinasare heppin out tha Coast"

 

[Mulligan.sixpack]

I grew up in Clinton and now live in the Madison school district. Considering the overall quality of student at each, Clinton should be ecstatic that they are so close to MC. The teachers in Clinton deserve a pat on the back for this.

 

[o_Hot Rock]

I didn't think they were supposed to published until August or so.

You sure these aren't last years numbers? Give us a link. Really, I thought they couldn't be disclosed publicly by anyone that wants to keep their job.

I know they are in but....

 

[croomsgone]

Faculty's children will be at SHS not east or west oktibbeha. Not that SHS is prob too much better right now, but it is definitely better than the county schools.

 

[Johnson85]

If they don't, they're not worth much.

They really should be broken down into at least three numbers (say based on how well a student around the 90th, 75th, and 50th percentile does). If a school has students with a poor socioeconomic background, and the students at the 90th percentile are scoring as well as students in the 90th percentile at the highest ranked schools, you know that you can send your kid there and they'll be educated, even if the students around the 50th percentile lag way behind the equivalent student at other schools.

 

[DerHntr]

are probably correct for 90% of the faculty. I didn't see Starkville High on that top 25 list either and, with you, expect it isn't much better (hope it is though).

 

[NTDawg]

nm

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Click here then click on the folder labeled QDI Ranking.

 

[baseballnerd]

Not this past year's.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

That 100 was scored by Heidelberg Elementary in Clarksdale, not Heidelberg High School in Heidelberg.

Heidelberg High scored a 158.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..want to earn a little extra coin as tutors, East & West Oktibbeha are sitting ducks.

 

[Hector.sixpack]

Because I see a lot of elementaries and middle schools score low.... Then the HS on the same campus score high...same programs and administrators.

 

[BlankStare]

nm

 

[mstateglfr]

'great' is obviously relative.

 

[FireworksForJeffy]

Most would be better than the inner city schools I work with in Nashville, but I doubt any of them would be in the top quartile nationally.

 

[615dawg]

The issue with Mississippi is the number of schools under 140. The schools with 190 or above are fine, and would do well anywhere.

The top traditional high school (meaning excluding the exceptional schools) in the nation is thought to be Suncoast High School in Palm Beach, Florida. There corresponding score is about 238, below Petal and just ahead of Madison Central. They use the same standards that MS uses.

 

[615dawg]

Lanier 165
Murrah 165
Bailey 163
Callaway 154
Forest Hill 154
Jim Hill 145
Wingfield 138
Provine 125

In all fairness, Power APAC, which is where the exceptional JPS students are, was at a solid 228. But seven general public high schools were better than the "Best of" JPS. But, Go Olympians. Glad some kids are getting a good education there.

 

[studentdawg87]

NT

 

[615dawg]

I've got an idea. If the school is below 140, no postseason. If the school is below 100, no sports.

Case in point:
Last year's state championship participants in football and boy's basketball:

Football
6A: Petal (241) vs. Olive Branch (198). This will probably be the highest combined QDI in the history of high school football championships in Mississippi.
5A: Starkville (177) vs. Picayune (168)
4A: Lafayette (204) vs. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Laurel (119</span>) - Under my plan, Laurel would not have been eligible for the playoffs.
3A: <span style="font-weight: bold;">Charleston (125) vs. Hazlehurst (139)</span> - Neither would have been eligible for the playoffs.
2A: <span style="font-weight: bold;">West Bolivar (124)</span> vs. East Marion (146) - State champs in football, failing in classroom.
1A: <span style="font-weight: bold;">Shaw (113) </span>vs. Noxapater (151) - Shaw would not have made the playoffs.

So, if HS sports had a similar APR type requirement, two state champs and three runners up would not have even been playoff eligible.

Basketball
6A: Jim Hill (145) vs. Tupelo (188) - Jim Hill is barely eligible.
5A: <span style="font-weight: bold;">Callaway (138)</span> vs. Wayne County (156) - State champs are not playoff eligible.
4A: <span style="font-weight: bold;">Amanda Elzy (132)</span> vs. Corinth (223) - State champs are out.
3A: <span style="font-weight: bold;">Kemper County (101)</span> vs. Booneville (220) - State champs barely able to field a team.
2A: <span style="font-weight: bold;">SV Marshall (124) </span>vs. Baldwyn (165) - State champs are out
1A: Biggersville (165) vs. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Coldwater (127)</span> - State champs are out

So in basketball, Five state champs are not playoff eligible and one runner up, with the sixth state champ barely hanging on.

Want to fix education in Mississippi? Implement this plan immediately.

 

[mstateglfr]

This sounds dickish, but is based on widely known rankings.
Great compared to the rest of the crop? Sure, that makes sense seeing as how 25 high schools is probably 7% or so of the total.

Mississippi produces some excellent minds every year, no doubt. And some schools really could go toe to toe with other schools regionally and nationally.

I just found the rating for each category to be odd since that is a lot of 'greats' in a state that is known for poor education results.
Perhaps its just an example of the few haves very much out shining the hundreds of have nots, I am not sure.

 

[mstateglfr]

I'm ignorant of all this, and very skeptical. If this is completely accurate and actually translates you know, reality, the awesome.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Petal is generally regarded to have the best school system in the Hattiesburg area.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

..of course, if you take the top 125-130 students from each high school in Mississippi and put them on one campus, you're going to have the high ranking. *<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div><div>http://www.greatschools.org/mississippi/columbus/164-MS-School-For-Math-And-Science/
</div><div>Of course, being a 2 year school that emphasizes academics, they suck at football and basketball. However, they're quite competitive at Soccer and Tennis.</div><div>
</div><div>*- Okay, I'm bragging. My daughter heads up there for 11th grade in a couple of weeks. </div>

 

[dogmatic1]

the students pulling the elementary school scores down drop out of high school. I'm continually amazed at the number of kids who don't finish high school.

 

[615dawg]

and 32 have a 200+ rating. Less than 10 percent. That's not a high percentage.<div>
</div><div>Like I said, the problem in Mississippi isn't the top, its the missing middle.</div>

 

[615dawg]

but Suncoast receives that rating because of many other factors, including innovation in the classroom and the opportunities that those students are given. I watched a robotics presentation one time by their Engineering teacher and students that was amazing - kids in Mississippi do not have those opportunities.<div>
</div><div>But the QDR rating is a mathematical formula that takes several things in account that rates the school. Like I said, a 200+ rating is considered great in Mississippi or Ohio or Florida. The difference in Mississippi and those states is that Mississippi has an extreme amount of schools lower than 170. Ohio takes a 170 and goes in and takes it over.</div><div>
</div><div>963 of the state's 1,612 schools (elementary, middle and high) are below 170, with over 500 below 140, which is considered horrible. So a third of the schools are considered horrible and 59.7% are considered bad.</div><div>
</div><div>There are 174 of 1,612 overall schools with 200 or above. 10.7%. The other 30 percent are average.</div><div>
</div><div>That's why Mississippi as a state is horrible, but if a school is in that 200+ range, they are great, nationally. A 170 is great compared to the state.</div><div>
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[jakldawg]

nm

 

[Dawghouse]

Want to fix education in Mississippi? Implement this plan immediately.

Honest question. Do you not think this would lead to even higher dropout rates? My instincts tell me half the players on those teams are only in school to play sports and with that option removed they would opt out of actually going to school.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Ronny, I think a large part of the problem is that those people don't have enough coin to pay someone, or could care less about education and refuse to pay someone.

 

[disappointeddawg]

I knew several people that went to MSMS and, without exception, they were all socially inept. They were all very smart and went on to do well in college so I guess it's serving its purpose. No disrespect towards your daughter, it's a greatachievement and you should be proud.<div>
</div><div>The problem with scoring large high schools is that it just shows the average. I went to Tupelo 10-15 years ago and at least back then it was considered pretty good but it had it's issues. Hell, I think the academic decathlon had won the state championship like 20 years in a row andregularlyplaced in the top 10 nationally. If you took AP courses and courses above and beyond what was required then you were essentially in a different environment from the "low achievers." My point is that you canreceive a great education at some of the lower scoring schools (I'm talking middle of the road, I imagine it would be tough at the schools scoring below 100.) I also understand the MC and Clinton are both large schools and still scoring well, which is even better.</div>

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

..you mean, "socially inept", then yes, my daughter is "socially inept". She's very smart and I'm happy she'll be at a school that pushes her and will prepare her for college.<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div><div>
</div><div>I agree with your assessment of large High Schools. Most of them get a mediocre rating, when in actuality the larger schools have AP classes and better college prep courses. </div>

 

[DerHntr]

"or could care less about education"

 

[mstateglfr]

That is an overwhelming numberof failing schools.

 

[disappointeddawg]

but in most professions your social skills are as important if not more than actual intellect. For example, I'm an engineer so I'm very used to dealing with people with zero social skills. Some of these same people are very smart but guess which engineers are the ones who always seem to be in positions of authority? The ones who can actuallycommunicatewith clients. The ones that are simply book smart are typically kept inside crunching numbers all day and rarely move up. <div>
</div><div>Again, MSMS is a great school and I imagine I would send my kids there if I ever had the opportunity. I was just making an observation from my personal experience with some of their alumni.</div>

 

[NTDawg]

according to them you, as a dad,will not have worry about the boy students. However, you might be concerned if you were sending Jr to go to school there.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

...think it's like a prison, that they can't do anything.....that's music to a dad's ears.<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>