New rumor up

Gene Swindoll

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i'm tired of giving our football program over to guys looking for a retirement plan and bowden would be another.
 

patdog

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I'll take a 90-49 underachiever any day. Because as I said before, there's no such thing as "underachieving" or "overachieving." There's only wins and losses. How you get there doesn't mean a damn thing. If our next coach can recruit talent good enough to win 100 games and wins "only" 90, we'll build a statue for him and name the stadium after him. Phil Fulmer is a classic example. He's generally considered to be a great recruiter but an average coach. Yet, he's one of the most successful overall coaches in SEC history.
 

Fogell

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But do you not think that the talent left behind by the previous coach has something to do with winning percentage?
 

megadawgmaniac

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<span style="font-weight: bold;">patdog</span> - The ONLY thing that matters is the bottom line. Wins and losses.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Coach34</span> - yes, winning percentage thats what matters

Reading this, and other threads lately:

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Forecast for the coming weeks:

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SnakePlissken

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If you can go from #9 to his record before being fired, at a school with Clemson's history, budget, stadium, in the ACC (no where near the SEC), then you would probably be average or less at State. No, I don't want to be average....I want more. In fact, I thought everyone on here wanted more than average. In all seriousness, how long would everyone here accept 6-6, 7-5, or 8-4 seasons before bitching that we can/should be winning 9-11 games a year? I don't want to win 6-8 games a year and be content. I want to win 9-12 games a year with a 7-5 being once or twice a decade. I don't know if we will ever achieve that goal but we damn sure won't unless we try. Hiring Tommy B would be safe but would not, in my opinion, be the guy to light the fire for recruits, alumni, students, etc. He is TOO SAFE of a hire.

Blast away at me.....
 

hatfieldms

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First of all preseason rankings are a joke. Nobody knows how good these teams are going to be until they hit the field. All I know about Bowden is that he never had a losing record at Clemson and went to 8 bowls in 10 years. Forgive me for not minding if a coach with that track record is named our next coach
 

java the mutt

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If you are wanting 9-12 wins a year at state you might want to take up hunting because you will never see that.6-7 wins a year is more likely to happen with a good coach.
 

Coach34

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they lost all of the offensive line from the previous season...nobody is going to be great having to replace that many starters upfront
 

hatfieldms

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Hell Georgia was pre-season #1 and you see how they finished. I am guessing none of you would want Richt here?
 

ArrowDawg

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"We want somebody who has the intensity and the energy level to continue on what Coach Croom has built on and take it to a higher level," Byrne said.
That's really what I want to know. Bowden doesn't strike me as the type to fit into Byrne's description.

Would Bowden be better than Croom? Most likely. Would I be thrilled or inspired by the hire? No. We need a new energy level.
 

Coach34

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bizZaX said:
I can honestly say I have no faith in this rumor. I talked to my sources last night and it seems that a hire is a couple of weeks away. Now of course if were hiring Bowden it wouldnt take long. But talking to people "high up" I dont see this being remotely true.

your sources suck...you were as wrong as anybody could be about Croom being here next year due to "no money to buy him out"