New stadium for Falcons.

patdog

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Looks like the GA Dome will be history soon. The Falcons are working on a new $1 billion stadium in downtown Atlanta.

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RocketDawg

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I saw that earlier on al.com

I suppose they want one because the Braves got a new one. I don't see a thing wrong with the Georgia Dome.
 

engie

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I suppose they want one because the Braves got a new one. I don't see a thing wrong with the Georgia Dome.

They want to stay cutting edge, both in the NFL and in all the other events that they host.

Don't get it twisted - this is also a power play to keep the SEC championship - and to lock up one of the 6 big-money access bowl slots. Florida is doing a major renovation on the Citrus Bowl for the same reason, but it's not looking all that good for them at this point.

Access Bowls:
Rose Bowl
Sugar Bowl
Cotton Bowl
Orange Bowl

between:
Fiesta Bowl
Peach Bowl
Citrus Bowl
for final two slots...
 

patdog

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I don't either. The sentence that stood out to me was that at 20 years old, the GA Dome is the 10th oldest stadium in the NFL. There's been a LOT of money spent on new stadiums in this country in the last 20 years. Engie is right though. This is all about keeping up with the rest of the league and the SEC championship & Peach Bowl.
 

FlabLoser

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Perhaps the GA Dome can stay and be run by a local politician who will try keeping it alive with a low rent minor league team which will eventually move out and leave the facility to high school football and soccer.
 

dawgs.sixpack

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I don't either. The sentence that stood out to me was that at 20 years old, the GA Dome is the 10th oldest stadium in the NFL. There's been a LOT of money spent on new stadiums in this country in the last 20 years. Engie is right though. This is all about keeping up with the rest of the league and the SEC championship & Peach Bowl.


and over say 20-30 years, how many BCS bowl games, peach bowl games, final 4s, sec CGs, sec BB tourneys, super bowls, etc. are gonna be played in ATL because of a new stadium that otherwise might move on to another city with a nicer, newer stadium? how much $$ does that bring into the area over time? of course it's all about $$, it's exactly about keeping up with the (jerry) jones' and ensure that ATL remains a big time player in major sporting events for the next few decades.
 

Railin Jemmye

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Doesn't the Fiesta Bowl have a problem with management or something? Thought I read about that a few years ago. Actually think it was a pretty big news story. If your layout is correct, I'd have to think Atlanta and Orlando have the inside track on those last 2 spots. Both are growing at tremendous rates, with tons of money.
 

patdog

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No queston that in today's environment, you have to keep up or you're going to get left behind. It is kind of a shame though that a very nice, expensive stadium is going to be leveled after only about 25 years of use.
 

ckDOG

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70% of the bill to the Falcons?

That's going to be a pricey ticket to see a Falcons game.
 

FISHDAWG

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94 % of the local populous is against it .... Falcons claim they are paying for 70% of the cost ... gonna be PSL's and hotel tax coughing up the rest ... then when it's paid for ownership goes over to the city (just in time to tear it down so another can be built ) .... FLAB - they're def gonna tear it down and the new structure isn't even going on the same site ... but hey, that's the thing to do nowadays
 

Godfrey

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Nah. PSL's and corporate sponsorships will eat up much of it. NFL tickets are never cheap, but they're wary of raising the price point too much.
 

Godfrey

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Turner Field (first Olympic Stadium) was completed in 96, only four years after the Dome. The biggest concern for the Falcons is the structure of the revenue agreement with the Ga. World Congress Center, the lack of PSLs and the number of suites relative to modern facilities, and the ability to earn revenue off of other events in the building.
 

Xenomorph

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Bears better hurry up. Only 5 more years to see the old girl before she's dust.
 

dawgs.sixpack

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Doesn't the Fiesta Bowl have a problem with management or something? Thought I read about that a few years ago. Actually think it was a pretty big news story. If your layout is correct, I'd have to think Atlanta and Orlando have the inside track on those last 2 spots. Both are growing at tremendous rates, with tons of money.


pretty sure the 6 have already been names - rose, fiesta, cotton, sugar, peach, and orange

EDIT: yep, already named

http://espn.go.com/college-football...x-bowls-pool-college-football-semifinal-games

The national semifinals will rotate through the six bowl games, setting up two playoff games and four major bowl games each season. The national title game will be bid out each year through a separate process similar to the Super Bowl.

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In September, sources told ESPN the site of the first title game has been limited to six bowls: Fiesta, Orange, Sugar, Rose, Cotton or Chick-fil-A.
 
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RocketDawg

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Yeah, I guess they've gotta keep up, and the Atlanta area is definitely one of the big boys. Sounds like they want something about like Dallas, but a little smaller.

But I still like the Dome. Wish they could move it to Huntsville instead of razing it ... not sure what we'd do with it but I'm sure it'd be put to some use.
 

RocketDawg

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I would take Atlanta over Orlando merely because of access. It's drivable to (if that makes sense) by a lot more people. And it's a much larger metro. Of course, there may be more entertainment things to do in and around Orlando than in Atlanta.
 

patdog

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That article just says the Rose, Sugar and Orange will be the 3 contract bowls and the leading candidates for the 3 other major bowls are the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach. It does say that "sources" have said those 6 bowls are the only ones being considered for the 2014 title game, but that's not official. I do think it's a pretty safe bet those will wind up being the 6 bowls though, but I bet the Citrus is still pushing for consideration.

Those remaining three access or "host" bowls still must be determined, but the leading candidates are the Fiesta, Cotton and Chick-fil-A, sources said.
 

engie

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This is how the SEC is easing into it's rightful position of bowl domination, after at least 7 years of being held back in a major way by the current infrastructure IMO...

- We will always play in the Sugar Bowl in years that it isn't in the playoff vs the Big12 - good for $40mil/yr to the conference.
- We will often play in the Orange Bowl(ACC vs highest ranked available team between the B1G, Notre Dame, and SEC) in years that it isn't in the playoff - good for $27.5mil/yr to the conference.
- We have LONGTERM pre-existing ties to the Cotton and Peach Bowls. While the contractual agreement hasn't been finalized and they are officially being called "access bowls", you know they will be as biased toward the SEC teams as they can possibly be.

What we've done here is remove all the limitations, essentially guaranteeing that we get 4 teams in this top tier of games practically every season IMO. This year we would have had 5. You know that the small schools will take a small percentage of the revenue. After that, there is no longer any form of equal revenue sharing among the major conferences(although the final agreement is not reached yet). IMO we end up dividing this money somewhat like we do the NCAA tournament - by #(and thus %) of games participated in on a 4-5 year rotating basis. Basically, I think we end up taking at least 30% of the total revenue pot yearly(probably closer to 40% honestly) - a revenue pot worth $620ish million/yr.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...but-wont-eliminate-endofseason-bowl-arguments
 

RocketDawg

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Are you saying the SEC bowl payouts will not be divided equally among the 14 conference teams like it is now?
 

engie

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Are you saying the SEC bowl payouts will not be divided equally among the 14 conference teams like it is now?

How did you get that out of my post?

The SEC bowl revenue will still be divided roughly equally among all 14(probably 16) teams. We just aren't going to have to share a roughly equal amount with other "bcs" conferences any more. Previously, the most any conference could get from the entire BCS deal was something like $23.5 mil. We got something like $18 mil for the first team(all 6 conferences guaranteed one team) and $5.5 for the second team. A few million extra for the BCS championship game. Either way, percentage-wise all 6 conferences divided that BCS revenue roughly equally.

The overall money has quadrupled - and it will no longer be split 6 different(conference) ways roughly equally. The way I understand it, you get out of it what you put into it(teams wise) - meaning the SEC will take a much larger piece of that overall pie - we won't be sharing equally with the B1G, Pac, Big12, and ACC.
 

RocketDawg

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From this: "This year we would have had 5 [in the top tier bowls]. You know that the small schools will take a small percentage of the revenue." It sounded like the small schools you mentioned were the other 9 SEC schools, including us, and that the perennial "big bowl goers" would get a larger percentage.
 

engie

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From this: "This year we would have had 5 [in the top tier bowls]. You know that the small schools will take a small percentage of the revenue." It sounded like the small schools you mentioned were the other 9 SEC schools, including us, and that the perennial "big bowl goers" would get a larger percentage.

Ahhh...

By small schools, I meant conferences. My bad.