New Vaccine Eligibility

[kired]

In case you hadn't heard, vaccines are opened up to teachers & first responders now. They appear to be opening up new spots literally right now. Get one scheduled while you can.


[FONT=&quot]Teachers, staff and employees in K-12, preschool or childcare settings. (For appointments on or after March 1st)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Public safety personnel: Law enforcement, public safety, fire services and emergency management officials. (For appointments on or after March 1st)[/FONT]

 

[Xenomorph]

I know an educator who just last night got an appointment for this Friday the 26th.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

My friends in K-12 are happy but the ones who work for colleges and universities who don't otherwise qualify still have to wait a bit longer.

 

[RocketDawg]

I know a couple of professors at State who've already had both doses. I don't know how they qualified, but they're younger than 65 by a good bit.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Most likely they’re like me and have pre-existing conditions (e.g., my BMI is at least 30) or they could be caretakers for elderly relatives.

 

[Mobile Bay]

I know a couple of professors at State who've already had both doses. I don't know how they qualified, but they're younger than 65 by a good bit.

My mom just straight up lied to get hers. But she is 73 and the cut off in Alabama was 75, so I don't blame her.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

Unless you're in bad health (serious condition(s)), you may want to be toward the back of the line.

I'm 55, in good health and will wait until I'm forced to get it. I've already had it, but was 100% asymptomatic.

 

[RocketDawg]

My mom just straight up lied to get hers. But she is 73 and the cut off in Alabama was 75, so I don't blame her.

Got my first shot yesterday, and they didn't ask for any sort of ID. They just verified that you have an appointment. I sort of expected the place to be a madhouse, but it was very well coordinated.

 

[RocketDawg]

I got the first shot, and never had a sore arm or any other side effect. Never have had Covid as far as i know.

 

[gwadSIG]

Unless you're in bad health (serious condition(s)), you may want to be toward the back of the line.

I'm 55, in good health and will wait until I'm forced to get it. I've already had it, but was 100% asymptomatic.

Agreed. The vaccine was supposed to get things back to normal.

This is from a brief two days ago:

So there are things, even if you’re vaccinated, that you’re not going to be able to do in society: for example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate. That’s because of the safety of society. You, yourself, what you can do when you are together with another person, we are looking at that, and we’re going to try and find out very quickly what recommendations could be made about what people can do.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-response-team-and-public-health-officials-6/

 

[WrapItDog]

Agreed. The vaccine was supposed to get things back to normal.

Reeves: Rollback of some COVID-19 restrictions in Mississippi will begin over next seven days

Those fully vaccinated may not be subject to mask mandate, other requirements


“It is not going to be our responsibility or government’s responsibility to keep every single person from getting COVID. We can no more accomplish that than we can keep every single Mississippian from getting the flu,”

https://www.wlbt.com/2021/02/24/ree...-mississippi-will-begin-over-next-seven-days/

 

[IPMdawg]

With smoking being on the list of pre-existing conditions eligible for vaccines, there’s really no way to keep anyone from getting them.

 

[Dawg1976]

Good. Personally I think mask should stay in place for a few more weeks. Let's get more vaccinations done first.

 

[Dawg1976]

One of the hospital clinics here are doing vaccinations. I have a friend who is 58 and he had his name put on a 'substitution' list where if someone failed to show they would call him. They called and he got the shot less than 30 minutes later. One way to beat the age cutoff restriction.

 

[mstateglfr]

Agreed. The vaccine was supposed to get things back to normal.

This is from a brief two days ago:

So there are things, even if you’re vaccinated, that you’re not going to be able to do in society: for example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate. That’s because of the safety of society. You, yourself, what you can do when you are together with another person, we are looking at that, and we’re going to try and find out very quickly what recommendations could be made about what people can do.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-response-team-and-public-health-officials-6/

**** will get back to normal over the next year, but I think it's unrealistic to expect normalcy/normality so soon.

Our state opened the back up a week or more ago- the Governor, who has kicked and screamed her whole way thru this, basically said '17 it we are restrictionless again'. I'm half surprised the restrictions lasted as long as they did since we didn't even have a state mask requirement until mid November.
One of the first things our legislature did this year was pass a bill requiring all schools to offer full time in person learning regardless of what's happening in the county. Once that bill went into effect, the Gov dropped the few restrictions she had created.

Other states will probably be more cautious and open up slower because they think that is the best way to keep infection numbers down.

Which way is best? Who knows.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

Good. Personally I think mask should stay in place for a few more weeks. Let's get more vaccinations done first.

there are now over twice as many people vaccinated in the US as have had covid. and that's known cases. time to open it back up. what is the realistic goal post? you can't vaccinate everyone. you won't stop people from getting covid either. just like with the flu. This isn't going away. you vaccinate and then booster for variant strains. at this point either they need to trust the vaccine they are pushing so hard or they don't. they keep moving the goal posts. first it was to lower the curve and slow the spread. Then it was got to get vaccines out. now that we have vaccinated double the amount of people as that have had the virus, they keep saying stay locked away, keep wearing masks. what is the purpose of the vaccines you pushed through? if you didn't think they will work, why did you push the vaccines through so fast? can't make their minds up.

 

[DoomSlayer]

With smoking being on the list of pre-existing conditions eligible for vaccines, there’s really no way to keep anyone from getting them.

I was told when you fill out the questionnaire from Walmart to get an appointment that it says you must bring something from your doctor to confirm your pre-existing condition. I have no idea if they follow through with that in the store though.

 

[Xenomorph]

Once you give government control of something you never get it fully back. There will be residual effects of the mask mandates, social distancing and capacity reductions for the foreseeable future.

Some of it will linger and simply be a new thread in the fabric of our society.

 

[mstateglfr]

Once you give government control of something you never get it fully back. There will be residual effects of the mask mandates, social distancing and capacity reductions for the foreseeable future.

Some of it will linger and simply be a new thread in the fabric of our society.

Yeah, I can see activities like high school musicals/plays being half capacity(and not just because it sucks to watch) in certain areas at certain times.
Maybe some charity walks/runs are launched in waves to reduce overall numbers.
etc etc.

I can see activities making decisions off of county health recommendations.
If thats what you call 'giving government control', then I dont see it as inherently bad. I certainly wont know the current local infection stats so I think its reasonable to rely on local government to keep everyone informed. Thats simply smart planning.

If you mean something else when you say 'giving government control', then please list details. As it is, the federal government under Trump and Biden really hasnt taken anything away from the people. Some states certain have had control though. If not them, then who though?

 

[RotorHead]

Yeah, I can see activities like high school musicals/plays being half capacity(and not just because it sucks to watch) in certain areas at certain times.
Maybe some charity walks/runs are launched in waves to reduce overall numbers.
etc etc.

I can see activities making decisions off of county health recommendations.
If thats what you call 'giving government control', then I dont see it as inherently bad. I certainly wont know the current local infection stats so I think its reasonable to rely on local government to keep everyone informed. Thats simply smart planning.

If you mean something else when you say 'giving government control', then please list details. As it is, the federal government under Trump and Biden really hasnt taken anything away from the people. Some states certain have had control though. If not them, then who though?

Decisions based off county health recommendations...CDC / WHO can't specify what EXACTLY should be done. I sure as hell don't want a local yocal dictating what I do and when based off frivolous information.
How does knowing local infection stats affect your daily life and why is it the government's responsibility to ensure that information is communicated to you? 17, information being pushed out by MSDH and the Jackson Mayor were COMPLETELY different...both being government entities. "Rely", "Government", and "Smart Planning" should never be used in the same sentence.
So far, Fed Gov't has taken away 20 cents at the gas pump with plans to take away more.

If somebody wants to argue how government needs control, I invite you to the VA Hospital. OR, you can simply detail how you absolutely LOVE going to get your driver's license renewed. Particularly, I'd like to hear how efficient and streamlined it is; how there's never any hiccups. Please...go ahead.

 

[johnson86-1]

Decisions based off county health recommendations...CDC / WHO can't specify what EXACTLY should be done. I sure as hell don't want a local yocal dictating what I do and when based off frivolous information.
How does knowing local infection stats affect your daily life and why is it the government's responsibility to ensure that information is communicated to you? 17, information being pushed out by MSDH and the Jackson Mayor were COMPLETELY different...both being government entities. "Rely", "Government", and "Smart Planning" should never be used in the same sentence.
So far, Fed Gov't has taken away 20 cents at the gas pump with plans to take away more.

If somebody wants to argue how government needs control, I invite you to the VA Hospital. OR, you can simply detail how you absolutely LOVE going to get your driver's license renewed. Particularly, I'd like to hear how efficient and streamlined it is; how there's never any hiccups. Please...go ahead.

Government publishing local infection numbers would be fine and good. Some people will want that information and it's hard to monetize, and it's something they should be watching. Ideally, we'd have had a lot less government mandates and more of government paying to obtain knowledge. We should have had governments doing random testing to provide estimates of what percentage of the population had it at different times. The positive test numers is better than nothing, but a pretty poor substitute for knowing the number that actually have it. Granted, there weren't tests the FDA would allow people to use for much of that time. But had the FDA been more reasonable and recognized the difference between testing for individual treatment versus testing for public health issues, there were tests that could have been used.

Absolutely bat **** crazy that organizations were allowed to use temperature screenings but not allowed to use more accurate tests actually aimed at covid. But that's our government.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

I think I agree. Now to see if I can get a copy of my covid shot record laminated and hook it up to a lanyard. **

 

[mstateglfr]

Decisions based off county health recommendations...CDC / WHO can't specify what EXACTLY should be done. I sure as hell don't want a local yocal dictating what I do and when based off frivolous information.
How does knowing local infection stats affect your daily life and why is it the government's responsibility to ensure that information is communicated to you? 17, information being pushed out by MSDH and the Jackson Mayor were COMPLETELY different...both being government entities. "Rely", "Government", and "Smart Planning" should never be used in the same sentence.
So far, Fed Gov't has taken away 20 cents at the gas pump with plans to take away more.

If somebody wants to argue how government needs control, I invite you to the VA Hospital. OR, you can simply detail how you absolutely LOVE going to get your driver's license renewed. Particularly, I'd like to hear how efficient and streamlined it is; how there's never any hiccups. Please...go ahead.

Wow.

School districts, large gathering events, private companies, and town managed activities(swimming pool, summer camps, etc) could all make decisions on whether to open or close based on various tracking data. As an example, if the positivity rate in a county is above 15%, then perhaps schools switch to remote learning. Or perhaps swimming pools are closed for a period of time. etc etc.

I didnt suggest a local yocal should declare what you can or cant do. I suggested government help collect and disseminate information so that businesses, groups, and organizations can make informed decisions.
With that said, I could see towns/cities having a policy that if an outbreak is active in the area, then there are no large gatherings if some established positivity metrics are reached. So if there were concerts or a triathlon or whatever scheduled in that town, then a plan b needs to happen(delay it, move it, etc).


Your rant about the federal VA and state DMV is just totally separate from what I have discussed so far.
Also, if a local area has poor local government, that shouldnt mean the best approach is ignorance and all men for themselves. It should mean the local government is held accountable to improve or be replaced. And if the shitshow is systemic and you really dont like how your town is run, then 17ing move.

 

[RotorHead]

I'm just of the opinion that the Fed Gov't should have as little involvement in the day-to-day life of the American Citizen as possible.
No, you didn't suggest a local yocal should...but that's what it would end up being. Look at what Fauci has turned into. Speaking to your stance on School districts, large gatherings, private companies, etc...: Data suggests that school aged children do not transmit / host COVID as older people do, certainly not as severe, however...decisions are being made counter to the information in order to push an agenda. With the government, left or right...the information doesn't matter, it's the agenda that reigns as the primary decision maker. Companies, organizations, "Entities" will make decisions based off of political affiliation and desired direction rather than concrete data.
The government is like a snowball...once you get it rolling, the bigger it's going to get; regardless of the initial purpose for it to start rolling.