Next Year’s Lineup
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Whatever lol. Go back in the basement and grab your self esteem tough guy lmfao. Stop responding we already know the answer and it always starts with an excuse lol. Yeah yeah i know go back to my board lol
Nope. It was a simple game of tit for tat. Considering his response, I have a feeling it hit him much harder than it did me!
LMFAO, I have actually defended it ad nauseam to the point EVERYONE HERE on EITHER side is repeating themselves over and over. I am simply trying to be NICE, because this board is such a dumpster fire now with guys like you nonstop complaining. So, I simply said I would back away, IF you guys let me. If you don't, I will continue to engage.
Either way, I am completely content!
Yes, we know you've defended this season and the last 4+ ad nauseam. It's why you're getting called out so often. People who continue to defend something so obvious deserve every bit of ridicule they receive.
No one is asking you to be nice, we're asking you to open your eyes and admit what we're all seeing isn't acceptable for an Iowa Hawkeyes wrestling program.
The only reason you're pushing your defense to March now is b/c there's literally no reasonable defense of what has become of this season.
Believe me, everybody on this board knows you can do it all day long. Because you do it all day long. Like I said... "can't do it. "
5 posts in a row... wow, that's even obsessive for you!Again, this is NOT the gotcha you think it is. I have clearly said, you come at me, I will come back. I have also made it as clear as it can be that it is FUN for me. I am HAPPY to keep this going as long as possible. Are you?Believe me, everybody on this board knows you can do it all day long. Because you do it all day long. Like I said... "can't do it. "
I am hoping you break your record and go to post 6 uninterupted posts by you in a row. Come on dude, put up or shut up. 6, 6, 6, 6 !!
Not remotely accurate. I made a point that EVERYONE had NO argument except nitpicking NCAA's until THIS year. I have been pointing out that hypocrisy nonstop. Now that they are very obviously not putting close to their best team out for nearly every dual and LOSING the sharks are fully circling as if this has been commonplace for years, when it absolutely has not. Until this season, Brands dual meet record has been on par with Gable's. Let that sink in for a second.
I have backed away because I have clearly called this site a dumpster fire and March has always been the Anti-Brands argument. You guys are so rabid, anti-Brands that NOTHING could shake you. Tell me honestly, If Brands has at least 2 Finalists and 6 AA's would you change your stance in the slightest?
I would rethink things a bit if it was 2 finalists, and 6 AAs. That would be a change with having better success in March compared to the regular season. I know you've mentioned about waiting till March, but what do you consider as a success in the postseason? I mean, you have to factor the regular season in to a certain extent. If they were kinda coasting in the regular season, to build for run in the postseason your expectations should be a bit higher. If a dismal season is combined with a mediocre postseason, I dont think thats good enough. I don't know if that makes sense or not.
The problem is you won’t give an inch because you think it is an admission of defeat. Are you sure you aren’t a Brands?
Statistically speaking Tom has been the second best coach behind Cael since 2008. But so what? Most of us aren’t satisfied with that and Tom has not shown the ability to evolve or change to close the gap (we are done with hearing excuses)
The product being put on the mat has been awful all year and nothing has been shown to suggest there is a magic switch to be flipped for March or even the next few years. This has been years in the making with awful recruiting and outdated training and technique.
You like Brands more than you like Iowa and that’s okay but that’s not how most of the fans feel. For some reason people mistakingly think Brands’ style was Gable’s Iowa style but it wasn’t. Gable preached creating scoring opportunities from every position, emphasizing pinning. It’s why we have very different legends like Randy Lewis and Mark Ironside and why they were successful.
IF the team has another bad NCAAs, stick around. IF we get another coach, stick around. It’s nice to have an opposing viewpoint but don’t confuse that with thinking your online persona is a virtue.
That number is the bar I set for success OR all 6 AA's being top 5....
So:
1a. 6 total AA's with 2 Finalists
1b. 6 total AA's with all in the top 5
Look, if this wasn't the VERY FIRST year he has had a less than GREAT dual meet season, I would have given much more leeway. Hell, last year they took 4th and beat 5 top 10 teams in duals including the 2 teams that finished 2nd and 3rd. Until this season, you could count on 1 hand the teams he has lost to other than PSU for his entire career. Mind you, Parco went out injured at NCAA's with a bracket set for him to make the semis at the very least...
Every regular season has been as good or better as the above, until this one. My main argument is how everyone is acting like this has been the norm for years. The ONLY norm that I have an issue with Brands over is getting guys into NCAA's as healthy as possible. For some reason, and I hate blaming coaches for injuries, Brands is either completely snakebit or is doing something wrong here. However, plenty of guys that have been inside the room have clearly said Brands has consistently changed practices around recently to try to avoid this as much as possible.
Injuries are a major part of the sport, but it seems to be something that decimates Iowa way more than anyone else. Still, if you couple this VERY FIRST bad dual season with a bad March, I have said you guys at least have enough to argue with and I won't stand in the way of that...
So Mo didn't receive any NIL $ ?
Did he ever attend physical therapy?
Did he ever miss scheduled Dr appointments?
If he was so wronged and kicked off the team because he was hurt has he gone to the administration?
So Terry never told him to get a cortisone shot?
Did he go multiple visits to his doctor of three years who has helped him through this before only to be told by Brands to not listen to his Doctor?
Did Tom schedule a meeting the day his child was born?
He has went to the administration. You know the same administration who keeps a lame duck staff employed despite pure failure to perform.
Mo received part of his NIL money promised for the year. He was told in no uncertain terms that the other was only going to be paid if he got out there and wrestled hurt. Angelo isn't getting the same treatment is he? Is a big chunk of Angelo's NIL money being held from him because he is hurt? I can answer for you that no it isn't. You claim to be such an insider on this yet Mo has never even had you inquire about it. Why don't you talk to him and understand what happened instead of listening to Brands butt kissers? I just remembered that you have your pathetic head so far up Brand's rump you really can't breathe little lone ask the right questions to the right people.
Agree. I guess they don’t worship our program like the actual blue chip guys wasting away on the bench at PSU like Sealy, with slim chance of making the lineup.
Clorby doesn't ask questions. The coaches ask questions to Clorby.
I forgot. Yes Cael calls him to go over strategy and such. He is the wrestling guru.
I haven't seen many nit picking just duals or just March, it's been the totality of the team's performance over the past 4+ seasons... with a trend line clearly moving the wrong direction. All the while PSU is getting stronger as is Okst.
The vast majority of IOWA FANS calling for change aren't rabid anti Brands whatsoever. You representing us that way is you trying to win an argument. I and most others have repeatedly said overall they've had a good run and they're legendary Hawkeyes as both athletes and coaches. We simply want to see Iowa competing for championships on a regular basis again, and in my/our opinion it's time for new blood to try and accomplish that goal.
As to your last question no, that wouldn't change my stance b/c I have higher expectations than 2 finalists and 6 AAs nor would that erase what has been a dreadful season. We aren't catching PSU with a couple finalists and 4 others finishing 3rd-8th and anyone satisfied with a finish like that is a fan of the wrong program.
Everyone gets the other portion of the NIL when the season ends. So he refused treatment from university DRs ? What about physical therapy appointments?
Says the loser who was a mod and would ban people because they know more than him. Give a guy a little power and he thinks he's important
His Dr. advised him not to start physical therapy until the inflammation quieted down. This is what lead Terry to tell him to get a cortisone shot. How are you so out of the loop on this? Why would he trust anybody over the Doctor who helped him before and has been helping him for the past three years? I realize you have been fed this BS version from the same people who think Tom Brands shouldn't be fired, but how about talking to someone who isn't a Brands Bot? Terry Brands does a lot of shady things if you haven't been around. Ask about a certain one armed waitress from the Blue Bird when you get some time with your insiders? You seem to be caught in the group think chamber that has put this once proud program where it is today. Run!
Give a guy a little access to the company propaganda machine and he is an insider. It works both ways tough guy.
If you are kicked off of the team you do not get the other portion. Wow! Did we just find Brand's motive?
My friend, I don’t know TNT personally and have no inside information. My only ***** is that our once amazing program has become very mediocre and the product we put on the mat at 7-8 weights each dual is a stale boring product.
They'll find one when we get some young guns leading the effort and some excitement back in the program.
Were other teams contacting Mo making offers for next year and suggesting he takes a medical?
Blue Bird
that's years old stuff not some gotcha like you think . Keep on your campaignIt's not his $ . If that was the case others would've been gone as well. Teemer did he earn his $ ? Was he kicked off?
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I'm embarassed. This makes my and MSU158's little tit for tat back and forth look like pattycake. 
I'm embarassed. This makes my and MSU158's little tit for tat back and forth look like pattycake.
Judge Judy is believing Kingstown - much more confidence in delivery and use of descriptive details to cement his plausible case.
I miss Vodka!I'm embarassed. This makes my and MSU158's little tit for tat back and forth look like pattycake.
Even without that comparison, our back and forth wasn’t even at the level of pattycake!I'm embarassed. This makes my and MSU158's little tit for tat back and forth look like pattycake.
His plan was for that to be Iowa rising with him, Melvin and whoever else he could help recruit. This was a major setback to say the least, especially with the loss of a few key starters next year. Maybe Brands and the AD will strike a deal to give him next year and see how he finishes 2028 recruiting class. That would leave only a 2 years to buy out. Will be interesting to see what she does with Terry and Star contract's. Don’t be too shocked if she extends them to match Tom’s.