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DSmith21

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I agree adding a WR would be nice, but improving their secondary and adding a TE are both a much greater need IMO. Ben threw for nearly 4000 yards last season and they're adding Bryant - I think they're okay there. Meanwhile their secondary got shredded most of the season and they don't draft a CB until the 3rd round? And while I love Connor I don't think they needed a RB there. The league has proven you can find a great RB in the later rounds and with the Steelers offensive line, they didn't need a RB there. They should have loaded up on defense in 4 of their first 5 picks.

Having said that this is coming from the person that loved the Jarvis Jones pick and didn't like the Bell pick so what do I know?

I am disappointed by who the Steelers ended up with at CB too. Its pretty obvious what happened. They were going to go for an edge rusher with their top pick all along. Then there was a run on CBs in the early rounds. By the time the Steelers picked in the late second round all of the guys they wanted were gone. So they went with WR (another need). They said just last week that they were not going to count on Bryant this season even if re-instated. The CB run continued in the 3rd round and they ended up with a desperation pick.

RB was a need because their backup is still deciding whether to retire or not. However, Connor was rated as 4th-5th rounder so it was a reach to take him in the 3rd.

The long snapper pick in round 6 was the head scratcher for me. There were some decent guys left and the Steelers just re-signed their snapper. What the heck?
 
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"Crushed it"? They got yet another young QB that they will throw to the wolves just like you said they wouldn't - you don't draft a QB in the 2nd round and not expect them to contribute immediately. And they got no skill positions for their QB to throw to. They got a lot of other good players but don't have a QB, RB, WR, etc. And they probably hurt their chances for Darnaud, Rosen or Allen next season.

Might want to spend some time on Google and then edit that post.
 

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Uhh no. I feel pretty good about what I wrote. Drafting the 4-5th best QB when you don't have one is pretty dumb, especially when you traded out of the best QB from the previous draft who's proven he's pretty good.

I guess their long term strategy is to keep avoiding adding good QB's when they're available to you? Sounds good to me as a Steelers fan.
 

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Well I guess they are banking on Osweiler playing this year with Kessler as a backup and Kizer 3rd string. Considering what they did last year this is an upgrade with possible long term potential.

At RB Crowell is no stud nor slouch. He ran for 952 yds on the worst team in football and caught for 352 more. Meanwhile rookie Duke Johnson caught for 500yds and is most likely their long term idea at RB.

At WR it is extremely tricky, but and it's more like BUT if Josh Gordon is allowed to play with Corey Coleman and Hawkins in the slot then they could be doing worse.

At TE they let Barnidge go and drafted the 2/3 best TE available.

As an outsider I can appreciate not going big at the QB spot and possibly losing a job on some highly overrated QB that is highly overpaid. I think Cleveland did right personally because a QB can't fix that mess. I guess comparing them to a team like PITT or NE yea they suck, but they were 1-15 last year so that was obvious.
 

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Uhh no. I feel pretty good about what I wrote. Drafting the 4-5th best QB when you don't have one is pretty dumb, especially when you traded out of the best QB from the previous draft who's proven he's pretty good.

I guess their long term strategy is to keep avoiding adding good QB's when they're available to you? Sounds good to me as a Steelers fan.

Osweiler is a QB.

Browns wanted McCarron first, and Bengals said No.

Which says to me, since andy is garbage and his stock falls every day, you trade that sack of crap for whatever you can get and hand the ball to AJ.
 

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Osweiller, Kessler, Kizer is likely the worst QB roster in the league and a team that's had numerous high first round picks and traded for a QB. In my opinion, they should have drafted another RB/WR with that pick instead of Kizer, tank one more year and then get the best QB available next season.

Unless they think Kizer is a franchise QB and can develop.
 

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Yes for fantasy football you are right they should not have cared at all about stopping anyone. Just go Hal Mumme on the NFL........that works!

Anyway, I'm done talking about the Browns. As a matter of fact I hope you are right and they suck and everyone they draft breaks and they get sold again.
 

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I don't understand why teams don't draft best available. For as bad as my Jets are, they've drafted fairly smart the last few years, and have only been burned by injuries. (three years prior to now, they were awful at drafting). They grabbed Jamal Adams who was the best pick at #6. They needed him.

But what if they didn't? What if they needed some cornerback who was drafted 10th? Why would you NOT draft "best available" no matter the circumstance, and then trade for the guy at 10th with a chance to get a 3rd round pick added on?
 

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I don't understand why teams don't draft best available. For as bad as my Jets are, they've drafted fairly smart the last few years, and have only been burned by injuries. (three years prior to now, they were awful at drafting). They grabbed Jamal Adams who was the best pick at #6. They needed him.

But what if they didn't? What if they needed some cornerback who was drafted 10th? Why would you NOT draft "best available" no matter the circumstance, and then trade for the guy at 10th with a chance to get a 3rd round pick added on?
It's harder to trade players after they've been picked because the draft moves fast. Easier just to trade the pick. I'm good with this system bc the Bucs got oj Howard bc of it
 

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:joy:

Look at me talking about the NFL draft like an adult!

Too bad people that get paid for a living to evaluate talent don't just call you! I mean you do have all the answers.
 

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It's harder to trade players after they've been picked because the draft moves fast. Easier just to trade the pick. I'm good with this system bc the Bucs got oj Howard bc of it

You don't even need to do it that night. You would lose out on gaining extra picks for THAT draft though.. but you could still swap players, and get an extra player or a future draft pick. A lot of analysts think you should go HA no matter what.. I just wonder, why not take it a step further? I'd draft the best available guy at 6th.. knowing we might need some offense around say.. 10th, 12th, 15th.. And see who bites. Those teams might need that playmaker at 6.
 

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You don't even need to do it that night. You would lose out on gaining extra picks for THAT draft though.. but you could still swap players, and get an extra player or a future draft pick. A lot of analysts think you should go HA no matter what.. I just wonder, why not take it a step further? I'd draft the best available guy at 6th.. knowing we might need some offense around say.. 10th, 12th, 15th.. And see who bites. Those teams might need that playmaker at 6.
In all honesty I'd just trade down with the best offer, because you never who wants what player. Also it's probably harder to trade a high value rookie after you've drafted him
 

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Alot of hate on the bengals drafting mixon. Alot of teams draft these type of players. The raiders, browns and whoever took westbrook drafted some problems too. The patriots havr been taking on misfits for years now. Its actually been a while since the bengals have drafted a character concern. I think around 10 years since the Henry and thurman draft. I for one am glad they are taking risks in the draft because they never sign fa's anymore. If mixon screws up again then we just move on. That simple. If your the bengals you have to take chances.
 

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How did y'all get out of being Bengals fans? You aren't playing by the rules....at least you picked ****** teams like Vikings, redskins, jets, etc.
I was thinking the same way. I grew up in Louisville from the 60's to early 70's and all that was on the TV and radio then was the Reds and the Bengals outside of UK of course. So, I became a fan and there is no trading up unless your character is flawed. You just don't turn your back on your teams just because they suck.
 

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I was thinking the same way. I grew up in Louisville from the 60's to early 70's and all that was on the TV and radio then was the Reds and the Bengals outside of UK of course. So, I became a fan and there is no trading up unless your character is flawed. You just don't turn your back on your teams just because they suck.
Born and raised in Louisville. Tampa bay buc fan since birth. Don't know how it happened, but I'm glad it did. Bengal fans are annoying around here because a lot of them don't even watch football.
 

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A lot more positions could've been filled besides WR. Still not a fan of the pick, especially with all the DBs that were still out there

How do you feel about Steelers 2nd round pick now? Not trying to pick on you as many didn't like it at the time. Just pointing out that JuJu may have been the best WR in the draft and went late in the 2nd round. The Steelers offense would be hurting without him as Bryant hasn't been his old self since the suspension. Also TJ Watt may end up being defensive rookie of the year.

http://www.espn.com/blog/detroit-li...-cooper-kupp-juju-smith-schuster-standing-out
 
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How do you feel about Steelers 2nd round pick now? Not trying to pick on you as many didn't like it at the time. Just pointing out that JuJu may have been the best WR in the draft and went late in the 2nd round. The Steelers offense would be hurting without him as Bryant hasn't been his old self since the suspension. Also TJ Watt may end up being defensive rookie of the year.

http://www.espn.com/blog/detroit-li...-cooper-kupp-juju-smith-schuster-standing-out
I'm pretty happy about it. Just wish they would quit under performing on offense. They leave a lot of points on the field.
 
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How do you feel about Steelers 2nd round pick now? Not trying to pick on you as many didn't like it at the time. Just pointing out that JuJu may have been the best WR in the draft and went late in the 2nd round. The Steelers offense would be hurting without him as Bryant hasn't been his old self since the suspension. Also TJ Watt may end up being defensive rookie of the year.

http://www.espn.com/blog/detroit-li...-cooper-kupp-juju-smith-schuster-standing-out
Gave up on Sammie Coates, JuJu looks good. At the time I said they needed to fill the DBs and they went out and signed joe Hayden. I also like marshon lattimore or tredavis white to win DROY but TJ is certainly in the running.

I also think Corey Davis is better than juju in the long run but CD was top 10 pick
 
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I'm pretty happy about it. Just wish they would quit under performing on offense. They leave a lot of points on the field.

With all the weapons that Pittsburgh has, I can't believe that they have yet to score 30 points in a game. Luckily the defense is better than expected this year.
 
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How do you feel about Steelers 2nd round pick now? Not trying to pick on you as many didn't like it at the time. Just pointing out that JuJu may have been the best WR in the draft and went late in the 2nd round. The Steelers offense would be hurting without him as Bryant hasn't been his old self since the suspension. Also TJ Watt may end up being defensive rookie of the year.

http://www.espn.com/blog/detroit-li...-cooper-kupp-juju-smith-schuster-standing-out

I admit I was completely wrong. He's incredible and should have gone in the 1st round. He's going to terrorize the AFC North for a decade. The perfect pick.
 
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^ Kneelers suck.