NFL overtime sucks!!

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However, you are 19.83% less likely to score points with your defense. So of course, there is an advantage for you to get the ball in OT. However, that hasn't always translated into a game winning score on that opening drive.

I could see your argument if the team winning the opening toss scored on that drive even 75% of the time. It just simply isn't the case. In fact, it isn't even close to that.
 

8dog

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if you were a coach if they let the other team always choose whether they wanted the ball first or not?

Those stats are nice and all, but in an isolated situation, its without question an advantage.

As people have stated, why does no one ever choose to kickoff? The only answer to that question is some variation of "its an advantage to get the ball first"
 
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You are far more likely to get the points you need with your offense. Defenses have never been very good at converting field goals.

However, getting the ball first in no way ends the game. You still have to play. And over the course of OT history, it has been shown that both teams usually get a chance. But if one doesn't, tough ****.
 

boomboommsu

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just give the ball first in sudden death based on the opening game coin flip?

the problem in many people eye's isn't sudden death, it's that one team has to get the ball first based on a completely arbitrary and meaningless gesture, the coin flip. Team A can drive the field and score, and wins even if Team B could have done the exact same thing. People want a way for one team to prove themselves better on the field, not based on being able to do the same thing first because of a damn coin flip.

Hell, I'd say it'd be better to just let the clock expire and keep playing till someone scores. At least then field position and possession are based on what happened on the field, not arbitrarily reset.
 
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Hell, I'd say it'd be better to just let the clock expire and keep playing till someone scores. At least then field position and possession are based on what happened on the field, not arbitrarily reset.

The one problem I see with that is that you would stop seeing game winning field goals attempted from outside a range of 35 yards or so unless it was already 4th down.


People want a way for one team to prove themselves better on the field, not based on being able to do the same thing first because of a damn coin flip.

Considering the team winning the toss is only 7-6 in OT games this year, I'd say they get exactly that!
 

boomboommsu

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"The one problem I see with that is that you would stop seeing game winning field goals attempted from outside a range of 35 yards or so unless it was already 4th down."

35 yd attempt, or 35 yd line? i'd agree with the latter.

"Considering the team winning the toss is only 7-6 in OT games this year, I'd say they get exactly that! "

Let me put it this way:
Say Team A would score on it's first OT possession. Say Team B would also score the same pts on it's first OT possession. Neither team has distinguished itself as better. Under college rules, you go to the next OT. Under NFL rules, Team A wins, despite not being the better team on the field, but solely because they won the coin flip. Even if this scenario only happens one out of ten times, it still makes the NFL system suck. Adding, it may only happen one out of ten times, but several more times out of ten team A would have scored without team B scoring, etc, and under NFL rules we don't know which scenario is which, so it appears to happen far more often.

hell, even worse:
Team A scores a fg on its first possession, Team B scores a TD on its possesion. Team B is the better team on the field. Under college rules, Team B wins, under NFL, Team A wins.

7-6:
means 6 times Team B proved itself better, because they scored when Team A didn't. 7 times we don't know who was better, because Team A scored before Team B got a reciprocal chance.
 

patdog

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PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA said:
Hell, I'd say it'd be better to just let the clock expire and keep playing till someone scores. At least then field position and possession are based on what happened on the field, not arbitrarily reset.
Just let the change from the 4th quarter to the overtime be like the change from the 3rd quarter to the 4th.
 

Dawgfan61

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No I was implying that there a lot of people that say that winning the coin toss is not an advantage. I am saying that in the entire history of the NFL's current overtime rules, (at least 20 years from memory) there have only been 7 times where the team winning the coin toss decided to kick rather than receive. Its obvious that there's an advantage.