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Nick Saban went 6-6 at Alabama in first year.

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TheBeav815

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spinner4 said:
Notice how NO one is really replying to this. Nick went 6-6 and had the #1 dam recruiting class so help was on the way. Sadly the 5-7 record doesn't scare me as much as bad as recruiting does. And I know this staff is working its *** off on recruiting, just like they did at coaching. They just aren't getting the job done.
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It's my understanding that you're not allowed to think that until February.
 
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TheBeav815 said:
Yeah well we DON'T have one different guy on the roster. This is the real world where those teams really played and NU really lost.

That's like saying, "Oh, take away those 2 long TD runs and our defense held them to 7 points!" Yeah well if your aunt had balls between her legs she'd be your uncle. So what? The only stat line that matters is the one on the scoreboard.

If we wanna play that game, if the refs don't completely hose MSU on that illegal touching play, maybe it's 4-8 at this point.
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I think the mantra is is that Riley's record is really not as bad as it seems as there were close losses - I for one do not agree with that
BYU - Home loss their starting QB who was playing well gets hurt and they outgained NU - they deserved the win
Miami - was up 33-10 to start the 4th and outgained us
Illinois - outgained us, 5 more first downs and zero TO's - they played better than us
WI - home loss out gained us 469 to 325, 25 first downs to our 13, zero turnovers - had two game winning drives - kicker bounces the first one off the goal post they promptly force a punt then go 42 yards for the closing FG
NW - Home loss they had 156 yds rushing no TO's
Purdue - 49 to 31 with 5 minutes left
MSU - out of bounds call could have gone either way
Iowa - never trailed 28-17 to start the 4th

Our record is right where it should be - I see no games we should have won.
 
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SnohomishRed said:
I think the mantra is is that Riley's record is really not as bad as it seems as there were close losses - I for one do not agree with that
BYU - Home loss their starting QB who was playing well gets hurt and they outgained NU - they deserved the win
Miami - was up 33-10 to start the 4th and outgained us
Illinois - outgained us, 5 more first downs and zero TO's - they played better than us
WI - home loss out gained us 469 to 325, 25 first downs to our 13, zero turnovers - had two game winning drives - kicker bounces the first one off the goal post they promptly force a punt then go 42 yards for the closing FG
NW - Home loss they had 156 yds rushing no TO's
Purdue - 49 to 31 with 5 minutes left
MSU - out of bounds call could have gone either way
Iowa - never trailed 28-17 to start the 4th

Our record is right where it should be - I see no games we should have won.
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Illinois I think they win if TA runs the play that was allegedly called. BUT, that is a horrible Illinois team and it never should have been close.
 
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SnohomishRed said:
I think the mantra is is that Riley's record is really not as bad as it seems as there were close losses - I for one do not agree with that
BYU - Home loss their starting QB who was playing well gets hurt and they outgained NU - they deserved the win
Miami - was up 33-10 to start the 4th and outgained us
Illinois - outgained us, 5 more first downs and zero TO's - they played better than us
WI - home loss out gained us 469 to 325, 25 first downs to our 13, zero turnovers - had two game winning drives - kicker bounces the first one off the goal post they promptly force a punt then go 42 yards for the closing FG
NW - Home loss they had 156 yds rushing no TO's
Purdue - 49 to 31 with 5 minutes left
MSU - out of bounds call could have gone either way
Iowa - never trailed 28-17 to start the 4th

Our record is right where it should be - I see no games we should have won.
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Riles needs time, but you can't afford to give away wins




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SnohomishRed

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TheBeav815 said:
Illinois I think they win if TA runs the play that was allegedly called. BUT, that is a horrible Illinois team and it never should have been close.
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Dont get me wrong there were a number of games we could have won and had a good shot at winning but from how we played though out the game I see no games where we clearly can say we Should have won
 
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hamneggs53

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red rover 70 said:
Just thought I'd give some people a little perspective with our situation. Looks like we made some pretty good improvement team wide especially on defense. The offense looks to be coming along nicely. Now let's get some depth team wide and work on the quarterback situation.
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No, he was 7-6 with a bowl win. He also went 14-0 two years later and won the NC. Let's see how Riley stacks up then.
 
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19Football19

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spinner4 said:
Notice how NO one is really replying to this. Nick went 6-6 and had the #1 dam recruiting class so help was on the way. Sadly the 5-7 record doesn't scare me as much as bad as recruiting does. And I know this staff is working its *** off on recruiting, just like they did at coaching. They just aren't getting the job done.
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I would echo what you said. It comes down to talent more than anything. It's going to recruit to Neb. Parity has set in. Saban would still get top 10 classes, but there's no way he gets the number 1 slot year over year. Places like Alabama still have blue-chippers and fact of the matter is we've had 1 5* star come out of Neb. (I still think we should have left Stein on the OL)
 
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dinglefritz

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spinner4 said:
Signing is done in February, so that's February of 2007, after the 2006 year in which NS was not the coach. The guy is so good that he got a top 10 class in 2 months. MR finished 31 in 2015, so if your going by first recruiting cycle after he went 6-6, he landed the #1 class.

If your going by first LOI day, then 2007 class was #10. So still much better than what we have going on in Lincoln
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True, but we aren't in the geographic location surrounded by talent in driving distance like Saban was then either. We don't have to have the #1 class to win but we need to get in the top 20 at least for a number of years in a row. I will also note that Riley honored the commitments that Bo's staff already had lined up. A couple of commits from some of the highly ranked kids we are in on would get us there easily this year.
 
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This is the new version of "Bo and Saban both get at least 9 wins per year"
 
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crinin the thane

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red rover 70 said:
Just thought I'd give some people a little perspective with our situation. Looks like we made some pretty good improvement team wide especially on defense. The offense looks to be coming along nicely. Now let's get some depth team wide and work on the quarterback situation.
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Well the Huskers didn't go 6-6. Riley has a track record and will never come close to Sabin, ever. Next stupid post...
 
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mbartell

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D_Patrick said:
Stats are fine for a point of reference, but there's this thing called a scoreboard, which then translates to a record...........5-7! Sorry, can't sugarcoat it. Plus, if you have a problem with the QB, how come the "player development" coach and his "QB whisperer coach" weren't able to improve upon his skills? Smiling Mike is who he is......a mediocre .500 coach that has done it by hiding behind he facade of being nice. The bed was made by Eichorst, time to sleep in it.
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This is the kind of ignorance that makes the Internet so frustrating.

Reilly had what he had at QB. I am positive that the coaching staff spent time with TA to improve his mechanics and decision making, but they can't go on the field for him. The second option of Fyfe is probably not much of an option, he certainly did not do well on the decision making front against Purdue. You and point to the 4 INTs for TA in Iowa, but they are a much better defense than Purdue, so it's not a fair comparison.

Regardless of what a lot of people seem to think, you cannot just run the ball every play. Sure, there were some outright bad play calls and definitely some headscratchers in the play calling.

We had a lot of youth on the field this year, some bad play calls, injury issues, etc. Every team does, but we also didn't have much depth behind a lot of those positions, no real place to turn to shore up the gaps.

Our first string is reasonably strong talent wise, but we spent a significant amount of time on our second and third string having to step up.

If Reilly and Co. can get a 15% improvement over this year, our schedule next year is setup for a reasonable shot at 10-2 with Oregon and Ohio St. being the expected losses open for upset potential. That gives us a very real shot at the B1G Championship. Improvement in TA alone is enough to take us there with who we have coming back.
 
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This is the kind of ignorance that makes the Internet so frustrating.

Reilly had what he had at QB. I am positive that the coaching staff spent time with TA to improve his mechanics and decision making, but they can't go on the field for him. The second option of Fyfe is probably not much of an option, he certainly did not do well on the decision making front against Purdue. You and point to the 4 INTs for TA in Iowa, but they are a much better defense than Purdue, so it's not a fair comparison.

Regardless of what a lot of people seem to think, you cannot just run the ball every play. Sure, there were some outright bad play calls and definitely some headscratchers in the play calling.

We had a lot of youth on the field this year, some bad play calls, injury issues, etc. Every team does, but we also didn't have much depth behind a lot of those positions, no real place to turn to shore up the gaps.

Our first string is reasonably strong talent wise, but we spent a significant amount of time on our second and third string having to step up.

If Reilly and Co. can get a 15% improvement over this year, our schedule next year is setup for a reasonable shot at 10-2 with Oregon and Ohio St. being the expected losses open for upset potential. That gives us a very real shot at the B1G Championship. Improvement in TA alone is enough to take us there with who we have coming back.
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Good post.
 
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LOL. I thought this was a new thread. RR, you post these "rah-rah" threads way too much, but I haven't missed the negative nellies. Where are they? Snomish, spinner, D_Patrick, HuskersMan34, crinin the thane... where are they??? Too funny!
 
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LOL. I thought this was a new thread. RR, you post these "rah-rah" threads way too much, but I haven't missed the negative nellies. Where are they? Snomish, spinner, D_Patrick, HuskersMan34, crinin the thane... where are they??? Too funny!
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Still here - I have decided not to post or post too much as to not rain on the pumpers parade - Just a word here - recruiting looks good so far but the how our defense plays will determine if that continues. The skill players are allways good to have however - I am excited about the new Dline coach - not too excited he is coaching for the same DC
 
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Still here - I have decided not to post or post too much as to not rain on the pumpers parade - Just a word here - recruiting looks good so far but the how our defense plays will determine if that continues. The skill players are allways good to have however - I am excited about the new Dline coach - not too excited he is coaching for the same DC
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Sno, you really can't have it both ways... You can't complain about recruiting last year before it was finished (don't remember if you complained much about this... If not, my apologies) and then Say you're gonna hold your tongue now until it's all finished...

I wish you would just jump on board and smile a little about what's going on so far... Could we hit an iceberg and sink? Absolutely we could, but rather than worry about that and have no fun, I'm gonna enjoy what we have going on right now. It feels nice.
 
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Sno, you really can't have it both ways... You can't complain about recruiting last year before it was finished (don't remember if you complained much about this... If not, my apologies) and then Say you're gonna hold your tongue now until it's all finished...

I wish you would just jump on board and smile a little about what's going on so far... Could we hit an iceberg and sink? Absolutely we could, but rather than worry about that and have no fun, I'm gonna enjoy what we have going on right now. It feels nice.
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I repeatedly stated last year I supported the staff in the approach to go after the better prospects even if that meant it did not turn out in the end.

As I stated I have decided to step away and not rain on the pumpers parade - I have plenty of fun and follow several teams - hope it works out for Riley and crew
 
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I repeatedly stated last year I supported the staff in the approach to go after the better prospects even if that meant it did not turn out in the end.

As I stated I have decided to step away and not rain on the pumpers parade - I have plenty of fun and follow several teams - hope it works out for Riley and crew
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Thanks for refreshing my memory... I do remember that now. Sorry for lumping you in with those who said he couldn't recruit.
 
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