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In 2017 987 people were killed by police:

458 were white (Total of 250 million white people in US)
223 were black (Total of 25 million black people in US)

So if the rate remained the same, and there were the same amount of black people in the US as white, 250 million, then that would mean that proportionately the numbers would come out like this:

458/250 million --- Amount of white people shot and killed by police

2,230/250 million--- Amount of black people shot and killed by police

2,230 divided by 458 = 4.87

This means that african americans are shot and killed by police at nearly 5 times the rate of white people.


#BasicStatistics
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What is the source of your data?
 

Mobilecat2

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Self promotion? So you think Kaep sold Nike on the idea of using him in their ads?
You'll have to produce evidence of any self promotion. Kaep had been silent about most everything he has done both before and since. People would criticize him saying he hadn't done this or that when he had and continues to do for others because he didn't and doesn't self-promote.

You ignore the many who have sacrificed everything and those who have sacrificed much that support

I'll leave you with this...the same things being said about Kaepernick were said about Muhammad Ali and short of going to prison for 3 years they both sacrificed a great deal. You can argue whether or not it is "everything" but you cannot say he has sacrificed a great deal. The same things were said of Tommy Smith and John Carlos at the 1968 Olympics. And more recently a man who gave 23 years of military service and endured 5 and half years as a POW...how has the same demographic that criticizes Kaep honored that service he gave this nation?

Please spare me your faux outrage.

Kaepernick will find himself on the right side of history. Of this I am certain.

That’s your opinion. I didn’t say anything about “outrage”. Thats your word not mine. Do you really not think CK has made himself much more relevant and financially enhanced with this move? Again, I don’t care where he ends up in history. What I said is don’t tell me he sacrificed all or really much of anything. Unless you mean trading another year as a backup QB and irrelevance for where he is now. He is still rich and he is the hero of the liberal elite like yourself. Meanwhile more bodies of first responders and soldiers come home under the flag the liberals love to burn and spit on. If CK wore a MAG shirt instead of one supporting FC or socks making fun of illegal immigrants instead of police officers, does he still get your praise? Of course not, because it isn’t about anything he is protesting. He wasn’t even clear about what he was protesting himself. It is simply the fact he is protesting that makes him the liberal cult hero he is. Nothing has changed because it isn’t anything that can change. Liberals embrace the victim me mentality. Sadly for them, Accountability is a real *****. And that is what history has and always will show.
 

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Conservatives do not have a monopoly on patriotism. Believe it or not some who have paid the ultimate sacrifice would stand with these players.
 

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Feel free to Google it yourself, Kaepernick Castro occurred somewhere around late November 2016. He very definitely was complimentary of Castro, even was acknowledged by liberal outlets like CNN and the like. Only after he was called to the carpet - basically because he was ignorant enough to wear the shirt and say these things in Miami which is the home of many Cubans that escaped Castro. So once the **** hit the fan, he claimed he misquoted and things were taken out of context and it was misunderstood. It's fact, not false narrative. https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article117033883.html
Dude, all the stories stem from the same episode. The columnist was butt-hurt because he didn't condemn Castro, Kaepernick kept telling him that it wasn't about Castro but Malcolm X. The false narrative is that he was fond of Castro. At no time did Kaepernick make that claim.
 

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Protesting police brutality is what its all about. If anyone hasn't figured that out yet, your not paying attention or your in denial and delusional. FTP
If YOU haven't figured it out yet, black people are not the only people who are "brutalized" when they fail to comply with the officers instructions. Black people are NOT the only people shot by police either. White people are shot more often. You are in denial and delusional toward the truth because you are either too stupid to see the actual truth, OR, you just have and axe to grind for some reason.

They are free to protest on their own time and their own dime just like the rest of us are. There is a political forum here for the same reason. People don't go to games, or come to this forum, to discuss politics.

Your personal rights end when you sign a contract to represent another entity. They have accepted millions of dollars to be part of an association and not an individual. The Federal government has no right to stipulation, but their employer does.
 
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PhDcat2018

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People have rights. If a cop pulls me over, which this has happened, one of the first things I do is ask why I am pulled over. If you cannot give me anything of merit, I don't have to do jack ****. I don't have to give you my ID, I don't have to answer any questions. I don't have to let you search my car or anything---- and me exercising my inalienable rights is not just cause to be shot dead on site.

Im done entertaining the vast amount of ignorance on this thread.
Then you deserve what you get. If a cop asks for your ID you give it. He or she has the authority in that situation. Not you.
 

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Here is my view on it, if you are willing to protest the flag and the national anthem, then you should be deported. Those are national things, and if you are protesting them, then you are protesting the country by which you live and gives you opportunity. So if you are so upset with this country, then you should go live somewhere else. I've yet to see a single one of these guys protesting actually trying to do something about the thing they are protesting for, other than to draw attention to themselves. But actually trying to do something about it requires way too much sacrifice.
By all means, being back the Alien Sedition Act of 1798
 

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However you feel about this controversy, one thing that is undeniable is that the nfl and Nike are going to suffer greatly by pissing on middle American values. They think they can flourish by catering to the coast mentality, but those are not strongholds of football and hold less brand loyalty than the "flyover states" NFL ratings and attendance are plummeting. They thought they were invincible and could be bankrupt in 10 years.
 
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In 2017 987 people were killed by police:

458 were white (Total of 250 million white people in US)
223 were black (Total of 25 million black people in US)

So if the rate remained the same, and there were the same amount of black people in the US as white, 250 million, then that would mean that proportionately the numbers would come out like this:

458/250 million --- Amount of white people shot and killed by police

2,230/250 million--- Amount of black people shot and killed by police

2,230 divided by 458 = 4.87

This means that african americans are shot and killed by police at nearly 5 times the rate of white people.


#BasicStatistics
#TheMoreYouKnow
#TheStatisticsSpeakForThemselves
Statistics can be manipulated any way you want.

For example, the is a correlation between education level and the commission of violent crimes. Black males are statistically the least educated races/gender combination. Hence, black males are killed by copsat a higher rate because they commit the most violent crimes.

Is this racist, or is it stats?
 

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That’s your opinion. I didn’t say anything about “outrage”. Thats your word not mine. Do you really not think CK has made himself much more relevant and financially enhanced with this move? Again, I don’t care where he ends up in history. What I said is don’t tell me he sacrificed all or really much of anything. Unless you mean trading another year as a backup QB and irrelevance for where he is now. He is still rich and he is the hero of the liberal elite like yourself. Meanwhile more bodies of first responders and soldiers come home under the flag the liberals love to burn and spit on. If CK wore a MAG shirt instead of one supporting FC or socks making fun of illegal immigrants instead of police officers, does he still get your praise? Of course not, because it isn’t about anything he is protesting. He wasn’t even clear about what he was protesting himself. It is simply the fact he is protesting that makes him the liberal cult hero he is. Nothing has changed because it isn’t anything that can change. Liberals embrace the victim me mentality. Sadly for them, Accountability is a real *****. And that is what history has and always will show.
I am sure that CK is benefiting from this Nike move, why shouldn't he? He had no power to force Nike to do anything, they chose him.

I am always amused that right wingers think they have a monopoly on patriotism. Spoiler alert: You don't. It is also funny/sad how they like to preach about honoring our vets and police but they had no problem spitting on the grave of John McCain who sacrificed greatly for his country because he challenged their precious orange clown in the White House.
There are plenty of those veterans that proudly stand up and support CK. Two of my best friends from high school are both West Point graduates, one served 8 years, the other 20 years and they fully support him and his right to protest. Please spare me the holier than thou attitude because you ain't.

Look dickwad, your orange leader made this an issue. The week prior to him calling NFL players SOBs there was a total of 6 players kneeling. It was no longer being discussed and out of the news. Orange man needs to manufacture something for his clown followers to be upset about so he poured gas on the fire.

I'll answer your question with one of my own. Had any Democrat made the comments about John McCain that IQ45 made heads would have exploded. Why no outrage?
 

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"touted the greatness of Castro"? Can you cite the place and time?
He wore a shirt with Malcolm X and Castro and was asked about his shirt. Kaep made it clear his purpose for the shirt was because he admired Malcolm X, not that he had any fondness for Castro. But please continue with your false narrative.

He wore a shirt with Castro on it. He also said, quote, “One thing Fidel Castro did do is they have the highest literacy rate because they invest more in their education system than they do in their prison system, which we do not do here even though we’re fully capable of doing that.”

Put any GOPer in a shirt with Reagan shaking hands with David Duke and have them say “I’m wearing this to support Reagan’s openness to other ideas, not Duke...but still, Duke has great ideas to bolster the economy.” I’m sure you’d react the same
 

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It could be, but its deeper than that. But many dont want to go to the depths required. I work in Lexington examining DMC ( Disproportionate Minority Contact). Its intricate. Gentrification plays a role, poverty plays a role, availability to resources plays a role, education etc. The way certain areas are policed plays a role. The bottom line is this there is a truth of a through line of racism embedded in the DNA of this country. You go from slavery, to lynching, to the Jim Crow south, to Segregation, to the Industrial Prison Complex, to the War on Drugs and the crack epidemic, to inconsistent sentencing and pathology of white people on cocaine vs black people on crack ( white person needs treatment, black person is violent and needs to be locked up), which leads to broken homes, which leads to mothers and families not being at home due to working which leads to generational education issues, poverty issues, and substance abuse issues. All this without considering housing malpractice, redlining, white-flight, underfunded schools in bad areas of town and bad areas of town being littered with pawn-shops, liquor stores and cash-advances instead of job training, substance abuse programs, child care programs etc.

Its a very complex issue. Race is a part of it. So is poverty. But no one ever wants to give credence to those complexities.Instead too many white folks say "well because I dont see this in my day to day life, it doesn't exist." I used to think that way. Then I worked in LA and some massive metropolitan, disenfranchised areas and married a person of color. My eyes were opened to the complexities of the issues.

This may be the best post I’ve read on here. Ever. Sadly, it will be followed with, “well, what about black people doing this or that”.
 

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Statistics can be manipulated any way you want.

For example, the is a correlation between education level and the commission of violent crimes. Black males are statistically the least educated races/gender combination. Hence, black males are killed by copsat a higher rate because they commit the most violent crimes.

Is this racist, or is it stats?

Oh, sweet Jesus.
 

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This may be the best post I’ve read on here. Ever. Sadly, it will be followed with, “well, what about black people doing this or that”.
No it will be followed by "those statements were purely anecdotal and abject dumbassery." Nice revisionist history. So cocaine was given a cursory glance and considered an inappropriate vice needing treatment? No. An administration devoted endless resources to stopping the influx of the drug inside our borders.

It's easy to promote an agenda when you just ignore facts/stats and instead rely on your limited "experiences."
 

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All my UK gear will be the cheap off brand stuff from Marshalls - no way woke NIKE gets a penny from me - plus us old white men wear New Balance
 

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I'm a Marine and it's completely disrespectful. If they want to disrespect the flag, the country, and every one of my friends that died for their right to disrespect it, fine, go ahead. But don't anybody fking tell me that I don't have the right to feel disrespected by it.
This dude flies a rebel flag. Sees nothing wrong with it, is offended by a guy taking knee during the anthem. Amoral I tell ya.
 
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Statistics can be manipulated any way you want.

For example, the is a correlation between education level and the commission of violent crimes. Black males are statistically the least educated races/gender combination. Hence, black males are killed by copsat a higher rate because they commit the most violent crimes.

Is this racist, or is it stats?


So what do you think are the reasons black men are statistically the least educated. Tou have to examine the institution racism that still exist. Black men being incarcerated for petty weed positions while white boy from the suburbs goes free with a ticket. Fatherless homes due to this incarceration. Access to public education that is of quality. Wage gap between races. It's not a simple as they are not educated. There are systemic issues that are deeper than that all propagated by institutional racism. I would be interested to see how many of you who think Kaepernick is disrespecting the flag and vets, support flying the Confederate flag as if it is not disrespectful to fly the flag of a rebel faction of a nation that committed treason in separating and declaring war with the US.
 

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Ask these fake Patriots about Russia interfering in our election and watch how quick they defend, deflect, minimize, "what about" it. This is about their tribal politics and nothing else.
 

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Protesting police brutality is what its all about. If anyone hasn't figured that out yet, your not paying attention or your in denial and delusional. FTP
More people are killed by gang violence in a week versus the number killed by police in a year, why aren’t they protesting that? Is it really about black lives, or is it about a political agenda? I think it is the latter. Millionaires protesting about anything has no credibility at all. I hope the NFL goes broke, then what will all those protestors do, get a job at CNN or MSNBC?

Many NFL players have beaten their wives and girlfriends, why are they not protesting that? You bought the lie, many of us didn’t.
 

KyFaninNC

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Pat Tillman basically hated the armed services and his widow and family have said that he would most likely proudly kneel right next to Kaepernick. But I’m sure that doesn’t fit your narrative.
He joined something he hated and gave his life for it? GTFO of here with that crap.
 

KyFaninNC

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CK had a job in the NFL and walked away from it, now people are blaming the NFL because no one will hire him? Only in America.
 

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So what do you think are the reasons black men are statistically the least educated. Tou have to examine the institution racism that still exist. Black men being incarcerated for petty weed positions while white boy from the suburbs goes free with a ticket. Fatherless homes due to this incarceration. Access to public education that is of quality. Wage gap between races. It's not a simple as they are not educated. There are systemic issues that are deeper than that all propagated by institutional racism. I would be interested to see how many of you who think Kaepernick is disrespecting the flag and vets, support flying the Confederate flag as if it is not disrespectful to fly the flag of a rebel faction of a nation that committed treason in separating and declaring war with the US.

So weed and Jail is why there’s so many fatherless homes in the black community?
 

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Dude, all the stories stem from the same episode. The columnist was butt-hurt because he didn't condemn Castro, Kaepernick kept telling him that it wasn't about Castro but Malcolm X. The false narrative is that he was fond of Castro. At no time did Kaepernick make that claim.
“One thing Fidel Castro did do is they have the highest literacy rate because they invest more in their education system than they do in their prison system, which we do not do here even though we’re fully capable of doing that,” Kaepernick said.
Beyond the fact that none of that is true, those were his comments in August, 2016 while wearing a t-shirt that featured Malcolm X and Castro. If you think that wearing a Castro shirt while you're speaking out against oppression and complimenting his educational policy and prison system makes sense I'm not sure what to tell you. Castro ran one of the most oppressive regimes in modern times.
He said it, pure and simple, and no amount of revisionist history will change that.
As for the writer being butt-hurt, do yourself a favor and read up on Cuba and the horrors the people there faced. You want a pity party for a multi-millionaire that couldn't get his "agenda" straight and distracted from his own cause with multiple stupid acts and comments but tough **** for the people in Cuba who were terrorized by a dictator like Castro. Good grief!
 

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Protesting police brutality is what its all about. If anyone hasn't figured that out yet, your not paying attention or your in denial and delusional. FTP
If it's about police brutality than why is the slogan "sacrifice everything"? Why is the face of the campaign someone who hasn't ever came close to "sacrificing everything"?
 

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Look at the congressional district boundaries in a state like Alabama---- With a non-partisan map Alabama goes from being a red state to a toss up REALLL quick. But the institutions systemically draft district lines that facilitate a partisan desired effect.

But institutionalized racism doesn't exist.... yeahhhhh okay
This has nothing to do with race. Typical democrat turning everything into racism even where it doesn't exist.
 

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He wore a shirt with Castro on it. He also said, quote, “One thing Fidel Castro did do is they have the highest literacy rate because they invest more in their education system than they do in their prison system, which we do not do here even though we’re fully capable of doing that.”

Put any GOPer in a shirt with Reagan shaking hands with David Duke and have them say “I’m wearing this to support Reagan’s openness to other ideas, not Duke...but still, Duke has great ideas to bolster the economy.” I’m sure you’d react the same
To be educated the person being educated has to be invested too mmkay? You think inner city school kids’ parents give 2 chits about their kids education or is their reproduction merely a way to get more government assistance
 
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homeytheclown

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Who flies a rebel flag? Moron I tell ya.
What’s wrong with a rebel flag ? I thought political stunts were supposed to make people uncomfortable unless it is libs being made uncomfortable then it is hate or bullying. Die libs
 

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So weed and Jail is why there’s so many fatherless homes in the black community?
Institutional racism is made up. Denying a person a job becuz there needs to be more blacks is institutional racism. Find proof of it it don’t give me this “ oh it runs deeper than that “ ********
 

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All my UK gear will be the cheap off brand stuff from Marshalls - no way woke NIKE gets a penny from me - plus us old white men wear New Balance

I am 100% positive Nike is not concerned with that target audience.

And seriously, there is nothing that screams I am old and white than wearing New Balance sneakers.
 

homeytheclown

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I am 100% positive Nike is not concerned with that target audience.

And seriously, there is nothing that screams I am old and white than wearing New Balance sneakers.
Nothing screams being woke and black like robbing people with a gun over Nike shoes too then when they do and kill someone over it you say we have a prison problem, lmao you brain dead choad
 

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Nothing screams being woke and black like robbing people with a gun over Nike shoes too then when they do and kill someone over it you say we have a prison problem, lmao you brain dead choad

Let me guess...you're a fan of New Balance shoes as well.
 

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He wore a shirt with Castro on it. He also said, quote, “One thing Fidel Castro did do is they have the highest literacy rate because they invest more in their education system than they do in their prison system, which we do not do here even though we’re fully capable of doing that.”

Put any GOPer in a shirt with Reagan shaking hands with David Duke and have them say “I’m wearing this to support Reagan’s openness to other ideas, not Duke...but still, Duke has great ideas to bolster the economy.” I’m sure you’d react the same
But he didn’t you live in fantasy land with your childish what ifs