NIL

[Catluv]

Go to Vols Wire it has an article stating about what folks think about the recruit. It has the sec teams ranked in recruiting. The disturbing thing to me is the average NIL money being paid out. We are only ahead of Vandy in payouts. Not hating on anyone but this shows us WAY behind almost every team we go up against!!

 

[Chadrock]

Football and basketball?

 

[UKnCincy_rivals]

Go to Vols Wire it has an article stating about what folks think about the recruit. It has the sec teams ranked in recruiting. The disturbing think to me is the average NIL money being paid out. We are only ahead of Vandy in payouts. Not hating on anyone but this shows us WAY behind almost every team we go up against!!

Those aren’t NIL payouts figures.

They are estimated NIL valuations based on On3’s algorithm. On3 doesn’t have data on actual NIL deal financial terms.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Go to Vols Wire it has an article stating about what folks think about the recruit. It has the sec teams ranked in recruiting. The disturbing think to me is the average NIL money being paid out. We are only ahead of Vandy in payouts. Not hating on anyone but this shows us WAY behind almost every team we go up against!!

Somehow we managed to sign 9 4 star recruits. Tennessee with all that NIL money managed to finish middle of the pack in the SEC. They don’t know how much NIL money anyone has, y’all fall for this BS propaganda every time.

 

[Anon1660081258]

I dunno. I hear those inbreds are passing out free Little Debbies and DG gift cards like water. What CAN we do?

 

[Catluv]

Those aren’t NIL payouts figures.

They are estimated NIL valuations based on On3’s algorithm. On3 doesn’t have data on actual NIL deal financial terms.

Did you read the article it is very misleading if it is what you are saying. Not saying you are wrong but according to the article it looks like they are saying what the guys are getting? So it is saying what the guys might get? I am not looking to argue but the article just bugged me about the nil payout.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Did you read the article it is very misleading if it is what you are saying. Not saying you are wrong but according to the article it looks like they are saying what the guys are getting? So it is saying what the guys might get? I am not looking to argue but the article just bugged me about the nil payout.

You think what guys are getting is public information?

 

[Dddjdd]

Somehow we managed to sign 9 4 star recruits. Tennessee with all that NIL money managed to finish middle of the pack in the SEC. They don’t know how much NIL money anyone has, y’all fall for this BS propaganda every time.

Tennessee finished fourth in the conference and twelfth nationally. They’re definitely out-recruiting us. It’s not the end of the world but let’s call it what it is.

 

[Dddjdd]

Those aren’t NIL payouts figures.

They are estimated NIL valuations based on On3’s algorithm. On3 doesn’t have data on actual NIL deal financial terms.

Saw an anonymous P5 coach gave a quote that the NIL estimations are way off. Almost felt like he was taking about this On3 metric that seems full of BS. Today you can pull any number out of your ***, publish it, and if you say it’s from an “algorithm” people will think it’s smart.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Tennessee finished fourth in the conference and twelfth nationally. They’re definitely out-recruiting us. It’s not the end of the world but let’s call it what it is.

They’ve always outrecruited us, you can’t find a year where they haven’t. Theyre a 2nd level blueblood with 3x as much in state talent and no other power 5 program to compete with. They’re used to having top 10 classes, with their supposed great NIL why aren’t top 5? Oh and they’re 7th in the SEC if you count Texas and Oklahoma who will be joining in 2024.

With as bad as y’all claim our NIL is how did we sign 9 4 star players? Just 3 less than Tennessee? Y’all love propping up that trash program and tearing down ours.

We’re closer to them than we’ve ever been.

 

[UKnCincy_rivals]

Did you read the article it is very misleading if it is what you are saying. Not saying you are wrong but according to the article it looks like they are saying what the guys are getting? So it is saying what the guys might get? I am not looking to argue but the article just bugged me about the nil payout.

Yes, I did read the article and it stated above the team listings that the article was based on data from the On3 industry rankings.

The NIL numbers for each team represent the average On3 NIL valuation across all committed recruits for each team.

UK has an NIL value of $18.3K in that article. UK’s number is based on the NIL valuations of 2 committed recruits thus far in the 2024 class:

• Aba Selm - $18.2K NIL valuation
• Hayes Johnson - $18.4K NIL valuation

So the NIL numbers in the article simply represent the average estimated NIL value of a recruit in each team’s recruiting class. They don’t represent actual NIL deals.

 

[JHB4UK]

The On3 NIL valuation are traaaaaaash. Based on awful calculations of positions played, recruiting rankings, school offers.

Sad thing is some kids looked at this garbage & entered the portal because their school wasn't paying them their 'value'. Then they found out nobody else was gonna pay them that money either.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Why are they always so desperate to put UK down?

 

[catsfan325]

We got the top QB in the portal when a lot of schools wanted him. I'd say our NIL situation has been better than some make it out to be

 

[Rockford]

There ain't nobody that knows.

They can guess, and that's what we have.

 

[JHB4UK]

Our NIL was in bad shape 12 months ago. Some heavy doners stepped up last fall to help with emergency funding to help salvage 2023 recruiting and keeping most current talent from entering the portal. Doners who answered Stoops & Marrow begging for help. Without question elite talent like Barion Brown or D Walker could have gone to any top 5 program last Dec, but they are being compensated fairly, so they stayed. We only lost 1 starter, Rogers, and we found a very able replacement in Silver. Same for Leary, he secured what he is worth.

The problem is, these few doners made if clear they are not going to do this every yr. That is why Uk desperately needs a wide base of NIL doners to cooperatives. We can't count on 3 guys promising a million each. We need 30,000 UK fans giving $100 yearly.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Our NIL was in bad shape 12 months ago. Some heavy doners stepped up last fall to help with emergency funding to help salvage 2023 recruiting and keeping most current talent from entering the portal. Doners who answered Stoops & Marrow begging for help. Without question elite talent like Barion Brown or D Walker could have gone to any top 5 program last Dec, but they are being compensated fairly, so they stayed. We only lost 1 starter, Rogers, and we found a very able replacement in Silver. Same for Leary, he secured what he is worth.

The problem is, these few doners made if clear they are not going to do this every yr. That is why UL desperately needs a wide base of NIL doners to cooperatives. We can't count on 3 guys promising a million each. We need 30,000 UK fans giving $100 yearly.

Who are these donors that made it clear they’re not going to do this every year?

 

[Dddjdd]

They’ve always outrecruited us, you can’t find a year where they haven’t. Theyre a 2nd level blueblood with 3x as much in state talent and no other power 5 program to compete with. They’re used to having top 10 classes, with their supposed great NIL why aren’t top 5? Oh and they’re 7th in the SEC if you count Texas and Oklahoma who will be joining in 2024.

With as bad as y’all claim our NIL is how did we sign 9 4 star players? Just 3 less than Tennessee? Y’all love propping up that trash program and tearing down ours.

We’re closer to them than we’ve ever been.

Lol I’m not propping anyone up I hate UT. But they definitely have better NIL than us we don’t have to be in denial about that.

Like I said, it’s not the end of the world. Games are not played on paper and we can out-develop and out-scheme them. But the recruiting makes it an uphill climb and so far Stoops hasn’t exactly been very close to slowing Heupel’s offenses.

 

[Dddjdd]

Our NIL was in bad shape 12 months ago. Some heavy doners stepped up last fall to help with emergency funding to help salvage 2023 recruiting and keeping most current talent from entering the portal. Doners who answered Stoops & Marrow begging for help. Without question elite talent like Barion Brown or D Walker could have gone to any top 5 program last Dec, but they are being compensated fairly, so they stayed. We only lost 1 starter, Rogers, and we found a very able replacement in Silver. Same for Leary, he secured what he is worth.

The problem is, these few doners made if clear they are not going to do this every yr. That is why UL desperately needs a wide base of NIL doners to cooperatives. We can't count on 3 guys promising a million each. We need 30,000 UK fans giving $100 yearly.

This is interesting and important for people to recognize. Not nitpicking here, but when you said UL you meant to type UK right?

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Lol I’m not propping anyone up I hate UT. But they definitely have better NIL than us we don’t have to be in denial about that.

Like I said, it’s not the end of the world. Games are not played on paper and we can out-develop and out-scheme them. But the recruiting makes it an uphill climb and so far Stoops hasn’t exactly been very close to slowing Heupel’s offenses.

How much money does Tennessee have in NIL and how much money do we have? Also with their great NIL why didn’t Tennessee sign a top 10 class in any sport? They’re supposed to have one of the best Collectives in the country, what went wrong?

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Got another 4 star in the portal. Let me guess, unnamed boosters stepped up again. That’s usually the excuse when y’all lie about NIL and we immediately sign a player.

 

[SaltyCat23]

Who are these donors that made it clear they’re not going to do this every year?

You tell us Gorilla, you’re the industry leading expert!

The first thing you do every day when you come on here:

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

You tell us Gorilla, you’re the industry leading expert!

The first thing you do every day when you come on here:

Tell you something they made up? How are you this dumb?
Nice first post.

 

[Dddjdd]

How much money does Tennessee have in NIL and how much money do we have? Also with their great NIL why didn’t Tennessee sign a top 10 class in any sport? They’re supposed to have one of the best Collectives in the country, what went wrong?

I’m not going to get into a semantics argument about what the word “great” means but possible other programs have strong NIL too. No one knows how much money each school has or even how much players are actually getting. That’s why there’s so much speculation. I don’t think UT pulls that CA quarterback without NIL but I’m speculating. What are the odds we out-recruit them in the 2024 class? If we’re honest it’s a very slim chance, so we need to find another edge.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

I’m not going to get into a semantics argument about what the word “great” means but possible other programs have strong NIL too. No one knows how much money each school has or even how much players are actually getting. That’s why there’s so much speculation. I don’t think UT pulls that CA quarterback without NIL but I’m speculating. What are the odds we out-recruit them in the 2024 class? If we’re honest it’s a very slim chance, so we need to find another edge.

They’re speculation, programs overstating where they are, and Kentucky fans trashing their own program claiming we don’t support NIL, saying we’re last in the SEC, and all kinds of other negative BS with nothing to base it on.

Also I’m willing to bet Leary has a better career than the California QB who may very well be the next Jeff Driskel, John Brantley, Russell Shepard, Garrett Gilbert, Dayne Crist, Ryan Perrilloux, Mitch Mustain, Gunner Kiel, Spencer Rattler, or you name the 5 star bust.

If you go back 20 years to 2003, how many times has UK outrecruited Tennessee? A grand total of zero times but now they’re out recruiting us because of NIL. LOL. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Alabama and Georgia out recruit us too. We better get our NIL in order or they’ll have a better recruiting class too.

 

[Dddjdd]

They’re speculation, programs overstating where they are, and Kentucky fans trashing their own program claiming we don’t support NIL, saying we’re last in the SEC, and all kinds of other negative BS with nothing to base it on.

Also I’m willing to bet Leary has a better career than the California QB who may very well be the next Jeff Driskel, John Brantley, Russell Shepard, Garrett Gilbert, Dayne Crist, Ryan Perrilloux, Mitch Mustain, Gunner Kiel, Spencer Rattler, or you name the 5 star bust.

If you go back 20 years to 2003, how many times has UK outrecruited Tennessee? A grand total of zero times but now they’re out recruiting us because of NIL. LOL. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Alabama and Georgia out recruit us too. We better get our NIL in order or they’ll have a better recruiting class too.

Totally possible kid is a bust. I know I hope he is. I think we pretty much agree overall. But I’ll say the reason people might focus more on UT than Alabama or UGA is overtaking UT is seen as the next step in our program development. Competing with Alabama and UGA would be final steps if we get to that point.

 

[Rockford]

Competing with Alabama and UGA would be final steps if we get to that point.

Says everybody else in the conference and the country

 

[Dddjdd]

Says everybody else in the conference and the country

Agreed. Which is why most don’t compare us to them. But Gorilla acts like wanting to be competitive with UT is the same as wanting to be competitive with the two best programs in the country.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Agreed. Which is why most don’t compare us to them. But Gorilla acts like wanting to be competitive with UT is the same as wanting to be competitive with the two best programs in the country.

We all want to be competitive with all the top programs. I’m not sure how making up stuff about our NIL and degrading our program while overinflating others when we have no idea how much any program has or pays it’s players helps with that goal.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Go to Vols Wire it has an article stating about what folks think about the recruit. It has the sec teams ranked in recruiting. The disturbing think to me is the average NIL money being paid out. We are only ahead of Vandy in payouts. Not hating on anyone but this shows us WAY behind almost every team we go up against!!

Probably Football based, makes sense there. Edit: it’s referencing the On3 valuation. I wouldn’t put any stock in that stuff. It’s mainly based on Twitter followers.