Ninja .... That is all.
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I guess it has more to do with the horrible job LT did, than what Byrne just did. He hired a good coach. Nothing earth shattering, and something any AD worth a damn could have done. Saying it was something only Byrne could do actually is putting down MSU. I guess it's the expectations after years of horrible AD management.
I guess I'm just saying a hire like this should not be surprising. It should be expected.
Video board and going after new streams of revenue are what he should really be praised for.
Video board and going after new streams of revenue are what he should really be praised for.
Football coaching searches are a game. Half of the candidates that you interview are putting their name out their only to better their financial position. By keeping everything on the down low, it eliminated a lot of that and avoided a situation like the Coach O hiring where every rejection prior to Ed was blasted across the news wires. We know that Pettersen turned us down and that is about the extent of it. Dooley threw his name out there, but was never really considered. A couple of other coaches got a look, but that is about all we know. It hurts recruiting and demoralizes the fan base when you see negative after negative in coaching searches. I think the way GB handled this with be the new benchmark for how coaching searches are apporached for schools that can not just go out and pull the best names at the drop of a hat.
Hopefully you realize that half the **** we say about Byrne is tongue in cheek, however, there are a lot of things contributing to the praise coming from this group.
A lot of us had the feeling throughout the LT era that if there was a decision to be made, it was going to be 17ed up. It sucks having no confidence in your administration. The coaching hires are just a small part of it. He has made aesthetic changes, instituted new traditions, expounded on traditions that were recently started such as the junction and the player walk, etc.
Another important thing nobody talks about is that he is young, and I, for one, can relate to someone like that a hell of a lot more than I could with LT. Many of the people that frequent this board are relatively young and that contributes to a lot of it. I feel like I could have a beer with the guy and he wouldn't be lost if I was talking pop culture, etc.
The bottom line is that he is a progressive thinker. That is a serious 180 from where we came from.
A lot of us had the feeling throughout the LT era that if there was a decision to be made, it was going to be 17ed up. It sucks having no confidence in your administration. The coaching hires are just a small part of it. He has made aesthetic changes, instituted new traditions, expounded on traditions that were recently started such as the junction and the player walk, etc.
Another important thing nobody talks about is that he is young, and I, for one, can relate to someone like that a hell of a lot more than I could with LT. Many of the people that frequent this board are relatively young and that contributes to a lot of it. I feel like I could have a beer with the guy and he wouldn't be lost if I was talking pop culture, etc.
The bottom line is that he is a progressive thinker. That is a serious 180 from where we came from.
of an athletic director. You can argue all day long that he hasn't done anything special at all, but the fact is Bulldog Club membership is up, donations are up, he has made 2 coaching hires that appear to be top notch hires (can you legitimately name any better coaches that another AD should have been expected to hire?), and he has made it clear that coaches at MSU are going to be held accountable for their record.
Quick question. Would you swap Boone for Byrne if you had the chance? Yeah, I thought so.
Quick question. Would you swap Boone for Byrne if you had the chance? Yeah, I thought so.
That is going to be the biggest thing to set GB apart from anyone else that has ever worked at MSU. The man is a breath of fresh air that is so long overdue at MSU that almost no one associated with the school even knows what it feels like.Optimus Prime 4 said:
Passion, desire to win, not happy with mediocre.. these are all things that are completely new to MSU fans. So forgive us if we get a little over excited about someone that is just doing his job. It really is something that we are not used to.
baseball and a couple or 3 or 4 win seasons and a lot of the love will be gone. Just the nature of the beast. You never know what is going to happen, only time will tell. Mullen has a lot of work to do and regardless of what kind of coach he is next year is going to be tough.
although Boone has made decent hires lately, with Kennedy and Nutt, and has managed to hold onto Bianco, with LSU offering their job.
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I think all of our expectations are too low.
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I think all of our expectations are too low.
I think any good AD could have gotten Mullen.
I am more impressed with the way he did it, it was not the circus too often seen these days. I also like the amount we are paying Mullen. While I am sure we could have thrown (larger) wads of cash at the guy, he left a LOT of room to award raises in the future to keep him here and happy. We also have more to spend on assistants, which I think is important.
I am more impressed with the way he did it, it was not the circus too often seen these days. I also like the amount we are paying Mullen. While I am sure we could have thrown (larger) wads of cash at the guy, he left a LOT of room to award raises in the future to keep him here and happy. We also have more to spend on assistants, which I think is important.
For all we know, both of his hires could fall flat on their face, but initially at least, they both look like real good hires to me and apparently to most so-called "experts." And in every other way he's managed the athletic dept. (taking a customer-oriented focus, making employees accountable, communicating with the fans/donors, raising revenues, increasing Bulldog Club membership, etc.), I just don't see anything that we could reasonably expect him to do that he's not doing. And we're thrilled about all of that. I'd be happy with him even if the previous AD had been a very good one. But the contrast with the constant CF that Templeton was just makes what Byrne's done look that much better.
Now we have a guy who isn't complaing about all the extra expenses that we have to occur to do this and that. He is not using a woe is me attitude and digging through the trash to find a new coach. He is actually getting out there and opening new doors. When you have never had an AD who cared, you get excited over him doing his job.
a National Championship at Florida, then why have only 2 done it? The reason folks love Meyer is because he produces results. It's the same reason we all love our new AD. He is getting his guys in here and not settling for ******** mediocrity. OP can say all he wants that he is just doing his job, that any other AD could/would have done the same thing, but some folks do their jobs a little better than others. Most AD's would have kept Croom around another year. Not Byrne. Most AD's would have listened to their Legend coach's wishes and gone with his wishes. Not Byrne. The guy has balls of steel and is turning around the whole mindset of MSU Athletics. Sorry, OP, if you now feel threatened that we have a competent person running our Athletic Department. As Bob Dylan once said, 'The times, they are a'changin'.So get used to it. Good times are ahead for MSU!
He is just like the common guy, he is personable and doesn't walk around like his **** does not stink like LT did. If LT shook your hand it was like he immediately started looking for hand sanitizer. He was an arrogant ******* and that is being to kind. I knew LT when him and his wife lived in that project across from the Pizza Hut on Hwy 12 called Pecan Acres. But he forgot where his roots were from. If you saw Greg Byrnes last night he was shaking hands with all the people even went up to some in Wheelchairs that could not get to him. That my my little Rebel friend is why we give him the love. Plus he has the BALLS to make immediate changes while not feeling the need to be politically correct. Enough said.
Another way that GB is not like LT is that he will not be here long. He is a very ambitious man and that will work out well for the Bulldog Nation as long as he is here. But just like he is looking to upgrade the positions he controls, he will necessarily look to upgrade his own. If Cohen and Mullen work out well and we sell out our FB season tickets for 2010, he will be gone to a top 10 program or maybe even the pros within 3 years, maybe even 2.
and that is without Byrne there IS NO COACHING SEARCH. Instead we are still sitting around waiting for Croom's 10 year plan to be fully implemented. Byrne is demanding performance from his coaches which is something that is definitely new at MSU.
by asking a few questions.
If LT was still the AD, who would be the baseball coach right now? That's right. And isn't Cohen, at the very least, much better than Raffo?
If LT was still the AD, who would be the football coach right now? That's right. And isn't Mullen(s) almost gauranteed to be better than Croom?
Then there's all that stuff about the revenue, too.
If LT was still the AD, who would be the baseball coach right now? That's right. And isn't Cohen, at the very least, much better than Raffo?
If LT was still the AD, who would be the football coach right now? That's right. And isn't Mullen(s) almost gauranteed to be better than Croom?
Then there's all that stuff about the revenue, too.
in their ENTIRE HISTORY. Not just anyone can go in there and compete for National Championships, year in year out. Look at Ron Zook. He had all of Spurrier's talent and did nothing with it. Urban Meyer is a special coach. So are Carroll & Stoops, but to say anyone could go in there and win a National Championship is simply untrue. If that was the case, they'd have a hell of a lot more than just 2 National Championships.