No more rainbow crosswalks….

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Of course I am against it. That’s been my entire argument and point for three pages. Are you serious?

edit: if you allow one, you need to allow all. If you deny one, you need to deny all. No choosing favorites. No political nonsense in infrastructure period OR let it be a free for all with any and everything. I’m sick and tired of the lefts constant double standards.
So where's your outrage over all the confederate and religious stuff the tax payers fund? Why you out just to talk about gay stuff? Seems a bit targeted my man.
 
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Do you feel the same way about Christmas? Should there be a law against cities having taxpayer funded nativity scenes?

To me, I don’t think the federal government should be involved unless the city is discriminating against straight people.
Great point. And tough question. My initial instinct is to say that we are a Christian nation so I’m ok with it. However I thought one part of this hypothetical question was odd. Christmas is slightly different, in that something like wreaths or trees or presents are considered Christmas but have nothing to do with Christ. Nativity scenes however do. We can probably also agree that Christmas is much more secular today. I’m curious if you think that things like wreaths or lights are too much even though they’re unrelated to Jesus. Secondly, I live in a very conservative area of SC, I’ve never seen a government sponsored nativity scene. Is this a thing in 2025? I’m unaware of that if it’s happening but I’m very aware of the rainbow crosswalks.
 

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Great point. And tough question. My initial instinct is to say that we are a Christian nation so I’m ok with it. However I thought one part of this hypothetical question was odd. Christmas is slightly different, in that something like wreaths or trees or presents are considered Christmas but have nothing to do with Christ. Nativity scenes however do. We can probably also agree that Christmas is much more secular today. I’m curious if you think that things like wreaths or lights are too much even though they’re unrelated to Jesus. Secondly, I live in a very conservative area of SC, I’ve never seen a government sponsored nativity scene. Is this a thing in 2025? I’m unaware of that if it’s happening but I’m very aware of the rainbow crosswalks.
I think Thomas Jefferson would disagree on the Christian nation thing, but not in the mood for that full argument.

On wreaths/santa/etc, that is why I added the second part of the question. No issues with non-religious Christmas anything.

I am fairly certain there are nativity scenes on government grounds in conservative states, but it wouldn't personally bother me at all, and was more of a hypothetical (that I think is not that far out there). Signs don't bother me period.

Personally, I think things like rainbow sidewalks or flags etc are more in line with a city having like "Asia American Month" flags or celebration to honor their Asian American community, or something along those lines.
 
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I think Thomas Jefferson would disagree on the Christian nation thing, but not in the mood for that full argument.

On wreaths/santa/etc, that is why I added the second part of the question. No issues with non-religious Christmas anything.

I am fairly certain there are nativity scenes on government grounds in conservative states, but it wouldn't personally bother me at all, and was more of a hypothetical (that I think is not that far out there). Signs don't bother me period.

Personally, I think things like rainbow sidewalks or flags etc are more in line with a city having like "Asia American Month" flags or celebration to honor their Asian American community, or something along those lines.
Fair points. IMO the identity stuff is just beyond out of control. This is identity based, which is divisive by its nature. We need unity, not division.
 

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I will never understand why it has to be divisive, but probably an agree to disagree thing.
I don’t think it was until recently. When the government starts allowing schools and businesses to accept and hire/promote based on identity you have a huge problem. They don’t get to do that, it’s merit based, any other way is unamerican. When identity politics start interfering with people’s ability to earn a living or be promoted or be accepted, that’s exactly what happens, it becomes divisive. And that’s not the fault of conservatives, keep that in mind. Liberals are responsible for this 100%. Remember that.
 
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Most of you were students at Clemson. Probably played some pick up basketball while you were there. What if you had to play by the normal Bb rules but if you had a gay, black or brown person they received 10 points for every shot they make. Or if you told all the white kids they weren’t even allowed to play. It wouldn’t take long for people to not play ball with you anymore. It’s unfair. That’s literally the Equity in DEI.
 

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I don’t think it was until recently. When the government starts allowing schools and businesses to accept and hire/promote based on identity you have a huge problem. They don’t get to do that, it’s merit based, any other way is unamerican. When identity politics start interfering with people’s ability to earn a living or be promoted or be accepted, that’s exactly what happens, it becomes divisive. And that’s not the fault of conservatives, keep that in mind. Liberals are responsible for this 100%. Remember that.
I'll just disagree and leave it at that. Thanks for the respectful back and forth.
 

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I want you to show the part of the report that says "there were 33k less jobs added than expected" in the report.
"Though layoffs continue to be rare, a hesitancy to hire and a reluctance to replace departing workers led to job losses last month. Still, the slowdown in hiring has yet to disrupt pay growth." - Nela Richardson, Chief Economist, ADP

It’s all right there in black and white. I get that economics can be complex... most people haven’t studied it in depth. I do have a degree in Economics, so I’m happy that I can break it down for you.
 
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"Though layoffs continue to be rare, a hesitancy to hire and a reluctance to replace departing workers led to job losses last month. Still, the slowdown in hiring has yet to disrupt pay growth." - Nela Richardson, Chief Economist, ADP

It’s all right there in black and white. I get that economics can be complex... most people haven’t studied it in depth. I do have a degree in Economics, so I’m happy that I can break it down for you.
Not replacing departing workers means....job losses.

If you lost 100K jobs and only replaced them with 67K jobs, what does that give you?

They have the math on their website.

They even have a graph for those like yourself that struggle with math or reading comprehension as well.

Per the ADP website, in May there were 134,480,000 private employees.

In June there were 134,447,000 private employees.
 
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In what way? Explain it to me. All I’ve said is it’s inappropriate for political messages to be plastered all over taxpayer funded roads. The gays are the ones crying. How does that relate to me? I’m simply pointing out the fact that they need a ridiculous amount of validation. Seems very obvious. How’s this so hard for you? What other group of people has an entire month and is allowed to vandalize tax payer funded property? That ain’t straight white males, the group I belong to.

So how do you feel about the 10 commandments being posted in schools?

Basically the same thing, but lost MAGAS are fine with it.

Basically, MAGA isn't anti indoctrination,they just want to pick the indoctrination.
 
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I live in Atlanta, and no... I don’t love or support the rainbow crosswalks. The idea that “everyone” does is just flat-out false and wildly disconnected from reality.

Not everyone supports having ideology... especially political and/or morally corrupt ... infrastructure messaging forced into shared public spaces. These crosswalks aren’t neutral. They’re not about traffic safety. They’re a political and cultural statement placed where it doesn’t belong.

Just to add my two cents

I was sponsoring some community programs and the question came up about putting a banner over the street

nope that is a no no

on painting streets

I asked about us coloring the streets crosswalks coming into the park

again a statement from SCDOT

no not allowed
 
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I guess everyone is about to be disappointed. Get over it.

Federally funded roads must follow DOT rules to continue to receive funding

painting highways is a violation of that rule

I am because I did not think much on it will ask the SCDOT why Clemson is allowed to paint a federally funded highway maintained by SC allowed to paint on a street
 
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Federally funded roads must follow DOT rules to continue to receive funding

painting highways is a violation of that rule

I am because I did not think much on it will ask the SCDOT why Clemson is allowed to paint a federally funded highway maintained by SC allowed to paint on a street
They're not painted on highways, they're typically in the heart of gay neighborhoods in locations you'd never see them anyway, but your panties are all twisted up about it only because this backwards administration chose to make it an issue. I guarantee this would have never crossed your mind otherwise, now magats are bringing out the pitchforks because they demand everyone conform to Trump's agenda to erase diversity. This should be a non-issue.
 
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Not replacing departing workers means....job losses.

If you lost 100K jobs and only replaced them with 67K jobs, what does that give you?

They have the math on their website.

They even have a graph for those like yourself that struggle with math or reading comprehension as well.

Per the ADP website, in May there were 134,480,000 private employees.

In June there were 134,447,000 private employees.

...a hesitancy to hire...slowdown in hiring...

It's clear in black and white. But I know words are hard for leftist libtards.
 
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They're not painted on highways, they're typically in the heart of gay neighborhoods in locations you'd never see them anyway, but your panties are all twisted up about it only because this backwards administration chose to make it an issue. I guarantee this would have never crossed your mind otherwise, now magats are bringing out the pitchforks because they demand everyone conform to Trump's agenda to erase diversity. This should be a non-issue.

You truly are a hoot

This administrations choses to make it an issue

Earth to @dpic73 there is something called elections and a process called discretionary law inforcement

To make a point there are lots signs stuck in the grass on the side of the road

This by law is NOT ALLOWED UNDER SCDOT STATE LAW

I dispise them and ask WHY are people putting these signs are not charged

Prominent answer is lack of enforcement and priority of criminal severity

By the way Its a $100 fine per violation

So when laws are on the books suddenly start getting enforced its because that is a decision of the elected folks to make that discretionary decision as to prioritizing the law enforcement

Just because you don’t like Trump and have a severe TDS rash don’t blame this administration

The laws were made long ago

You just don’t want to obey reasonable laws and obey laws

If you don’t like a law there is a process to change the law

It is called Democracy

Try it and you might find you like it
 

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You truly are a hoot

This administrations choses to make it an issue

Earth to @dpic73 there is something called elections and a process called discretionary law inforcement

To make a point there are lots signs stuck in the grass on the side of the road

This by law is NOT ALLOWED UNDER SCDOT STATE LAW

I dispise them and ask WHY are people putting these signs are not charged

Prominent answer is lack of enforcement and priority of criminal severity

By the way Its a $100 fine per violation

So when laws are on the books suddenly start getting enforced its because that is a decision of the elected folks to make that discretionary decision as to prioritizing the law enforcement

Just because you don’t like Trump and have a severe TDS rash don’t blame this administration

The laws were made long ago

You just don’t want to obey reasonable laws and obey laws

If you don’t like a law there is a process to change the law

It is called Democracy

Try it and you might find you like it
You mention laws - there is no law against painting rainbow crosswalks

You mention priorities - this shouldn't be one as it harms no one and there are no records of these crosswalks causing traffic accidents.

Nobody believes this is anything other than yet another effort to erase anyone maga doesn't like, because it sure as hell aint about safety.
 
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You truly are a hoot

This administrations choses to make it an issue

Earth to @dpic73 there is something called elections and a process called discretionary law inforcement

To make a point there are lots signs stuck in the grass on the side of the road

This by law is NOT ALLOWED UNDER SCDOT STATE LAW

I dispise them and ask WHY are people putting these signs are not charged

Prominent answer is lack of enforcement and priority of criminal severity

By the way Its a $100 fine per violation

So when laws are on the books suddenly start getting enforced its because that is a decision of the elected folks to make that discretionary decision as to prioritizing the law enforcement

Just because you don’t like Trump and have a severe TDS rash don’t blame this administration

The laws were made long ago

You just don’t want to obey reasonable laws and obey laws

If you don’t like a law there is a process to change the law

It is called Democracy

Try it and you might find you like it
inforcement is classic.

I still wonder when you guys will figure out we should be investing in education. Maybe you’re too far gone
 

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...a hesitancy to hire...slowdown in hiring...

It's clear in black and white. But I know words are hard for leftist libtards.
Stats and math are hard for you.

It’s easy to see when people like yourself lose their argument because they quickly move to “libtard”.

I’ve got the dub. Now run along and create another lie.
 

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So how do you feel about the 10 commandments being posted in schools?

Basically the same thing, but lost MAGAS are fine with it.

Basically, MAGA isn't anti indoctrination,they just want to pick the indoctrination.
Interestingly enough, Louisiana is the only state that has this as a law and it was overturned by the courts. It’s not allowed. If it’s good for the goose, well….you know.

That would’ve taken you about 2 seconds to know if you took time to research. I know you’re super busy lying and doing eye exams.
 

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Interestingly enough, Louisiana is the only state that has this as a law and it was overturned by the courts. It’s not allowed. If it’s good for the goose, well….you know.

That would’ve taken you about 2 seconds to know if you took time to research. I know you’re super busy lying and doing eye exams.
It would have taken you two seconds more to learn that Texas has a new law mandating the Ten Commandments be displayed in all public classrooms, despite the court's ruling, but I know you're too busy driving around red states listening to conservative radio.

 
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It would have taken you two seconds more to learn that Texas has a new law mandating the Ten Commandments be displayed in all public classrooms, despite the court's ruling, but I know you're too busy driving around red states listening to conservative radio.

Here dummy. I thought I had your dumba— on ignore. I’ll fix it. Dicpic with the fail.
A similar law in Louisiana was blocked when a federal appeals court ruled Friday that it was unconstitutional. Arkansas also has a similar law that has been challenged in federal court.
 

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Hey dummy, YOU said "Louisiana is the only state that has this as a law" which was untrue.
Who's the dummy now?
I would say the people painting rainbows on streets.

I’m struggling with your logic and why you’re mad. So you don’t like it when these other red states want to mandate things like honoring your mom and dad but it’s ok when it’s for gays and homosexuals? That’s your take? Texas is trying to pass a law and all the sudden your up in arms and feel the need to protest? I made my point, all or nothing. You’re whining bc it’s opposed to your politics. Double standard democrats.
 
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I would say the people painting rainbows on streets.

I’m struggling with your logic and why you’re mad. So you don’t like it when these other red states want to mandate things like honoring your mom and dad but it’s ok when it’s for gays and homosexuals? That’s your take? Texas is trying to pass a law and all the sudden your up in arms and feel the need to protest? I made my point, all or nothing. You’re whining bc it’s opposed to your politics. Double standard democrats.
Nice deflection.

A rainbow crosswalk isn't mandating anything and doesn't exclude anyone - it's just a way of saying gays are welcome and safe here. No harm is being done and again, nobody believes this is anything other than yet another way for this corrupt administration to put their knee on the neck of anyone considered an "other."

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"Atlanta's rainbow crosswalks at 10th Street and Piedmont Avenue were first painted in 2015 for the Atlanta Pride Festival. They were initially installed as a temporary display but became a permanent fixture in 2017. The decision to make them permanent was made in part to commemorate the one-year anniversary of the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando."

A Texas LAW that does mandate displaying religious text in classrooms infringes on the religious freedom of others who have no connection to the Ten Commandments.

These things are not the same. One is welcoming in a part of the city that mostly gays frequent - the other is a way of forcing all students to abide by Christian law that many don't follow.
 
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