No, the Big Ten isn’t going to kick Rutgers to the curb (we think) | Politi

Plum Street

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The risk isn’t that we’ll get kicked out of the B1G, it’s that a superconference will be formed and we surely won’t be in it.
If a super conference is formed, would we want to even play in that league ?
 

NickRU714

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If a super conference is formed, would we want to even play in that league ?

You tell AD Hobbs, HC Schiano and HC Pike that we're going from nearly $100m/year in media revenue to $10m/year (likley less?) and they'll just have to adapt.
I'm sure it'll go over well.

Fans can say anything they want about "hating semi-pro sports" but few actually want that when faced with the realities.
The #2 and #3 basketball recruits in the country aren't going to a lower level school.
 

brgRC90

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And this is why everyone should be opposed to the way things are run in college sports. Programs shouldn't have to worry about the rug being pulled out from under them. No other sports league operates this way. It's a joke.
 

fsg2_rivals

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You tell AD Hobbs, HC Schiano and HC Pike that we're going from nearly $100m/year in media revenue to $10m/year (likley less?) and they'll just have to adapt.
I'm sure it'll go over well.

Fans can say anything they want about "hating semi-pro sports" but few actually want that when faced with the realities.
The #2 and #3 basketball recruits in the country aren't going to a lower level school.

But we'd be competing entirely against others in the same boat. It'd probably be the most even playing field we were ever on.

I don't want it, but it wouldn't be the end of the world, either. The factories could make their NFL II, and the rest could get back to playing college FB.
 

scarknight90

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Politi heard a bunch of talking heads on ESPN and SiriusXM talking about Rutgers and Vanderbilt getting kicked out of their conferences. He then wrote this article hoping to be quoted by them on a national broadcast.

That’s the purpose of this, and I won’t click on it to help him realize it. At best, this is Politi looking for attention. At worst, it’s a poorly disguised way to once again remind NJ residents that we currently suck at football.

Either way, not worth the time.
 

NickRU714

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But we'd be competing entirely against others in the same boat. It'd probably be the most even playing field we were ever on.

I don't want it, but it wouldn't be the end of the world, either. The factories could make their NFL II, and the rest could get back to playing college FB.

Oh completely agree.
I've said before that from a purely football competitiveness perspective the AAC is probably a better conference for Rutgers.
Can't even play the "but lower conferences get shut out of the BCS bowls/playoffs" argument anymore.
Win the watered down AAC (no more Cincy, UCF or Houston) and you're likely going to the CFP as the 6th Conference Champ.

We are so far behind the top of the Big Ten that it seems monumental to overcome (at least until the entire philosophy of the football program changes).
But put us in the AAC (even with reduced funds) we would be at the top of the group instantly.

Tulane is the favorite to win the AAC.
Tulane is likely going to make the CFP before Rutgers.
The 2nd favorite is UTSA. UTSA has a better chance of making the CFP than Rutgers.
Imagine if Temple went on an unexpected run and won the AAC and went to the CFP? This place would rightly lose it's mind.
 

Plum Street

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You tell AD Hobbs, HC Schiano and HC Pike that we're going from nearly $100m/year in media revenue to $10m/year (likley less?) and they'll just have to adapt.
I'm sure it'll go over well.

Fans can say anything they want about "hating semi-pro sports" but few actually want that when faced with the realities.
The #2 and #3 basketball recruits in the country aren't going to a lower level school.
What good is the revenue for football if the program loses money and gets steamrolled ?
Maybe it’s better to be in a football conference with competitive balance .
Also, this conference wouldn’t have the supposed educational benefits that the BIG alliance brings lol

Basketball could still be ok . This would just be a super football conference
 

Knight Shift

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Oh completely agree.
I've said before that from a purely football competitiveness perspective the AAC is probably a better conference for Rutgers.
Can't even play the "but lower conferences get shut out of the BCS bowls/playoffs" argument anymore.
Win the watered down AAC (no more Cincy, UCF or Houston) and you're likely going to the CFP as the 6th Conference Champ.

We are so far behind the top of the Big Ten that it seems monumental to overcome (at least until the entire philosophy of the football program changes).
But put us in the AAC (even with reduced funds) we would be at the top of the group instantly.

Tulane is the favorite to win the AAC.
Tulane is likely going to make the CFP before Rutgers.
The 2nd favorite is UTSA. UTSA has a better chance of making the CFP than Rutgers.
Imagine if Temple went on an unexpected run and won the AAC and went to the CFP? This place would rightly lose it's mind.
Here's an idea should any of the kicking out come to fruition. Form a conference of:


Rutgers
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Vanderbilt
Georgia Tech
Boston College
Duke
Stanford
Cal

Call it the Big Brain Conference. Stanford and Cal on an island, yes. We would have a decent chance of being in the top 4 of that conference each year. Beats being a door mat.
 

Plum Street

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Here's an idea should any of the kicking out come to fruition. Form a conference of:


Rutgers
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Vanderbilt
Georgia Tech
Boston College
Duke
Stanford
Cal

Call it the Big Brain Conference. Stanford and Cal on an island, yes. We would have a decent chance of being in the top 4 of that conference each year. Beats being a door mat.

Ha ! It would be better then getting embarrassed most weeks. Plus, all the academic farts here would love it !
 

krup

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Oh completely agree.
I've said before that from a purely football competitiveness perspective the AAC is probably a better conference for Rutgers.
Can't even play the "but lower conferences get shut out of the BCS bowls/playoffs" argument anymore.
Win the watered down AAC (no more Cincy, UCF or Houston) and you're likely going to the CFP as the 6th Conference Champ.

We are so far behind the top of the Big Ten that it seems monumental to overcome (at least until the entire philosophy of the football program changes).
But put us in the AAC (even with reduced funds) we would be at the top of the group instantly.

Tulane is the favorite to win the AAC.
Tulane is likely going to make the CFP before Rutgers.
The 2nd favorite is UTSA. UTSA has a better chance of making the CFP than Rutgers.
Imagine if Temple went on an unexpected run and won the AAC and went to the CFP? This place would rightly lose it's mind.
I wouldn’t trade two playoff appearances gained by competing against schools like UTSA and Tulane for one year going 7-5 in the B1G.
 

RobertG

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Small time thinking. Win in the B1G or disband. We can win we just need an administration that is all in.
 
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I don't expect anyone getting kicked out from whatever conference they're in. Patsies are needed and if you think expenses are high now, they'd be that much worse for those teams competing against each other exclusively. It may seem like the pros but it isn't and would the high status schools want to be in an even bigger arms race than they are right now?

The only thing I find plausible however far down the line is a somewhat uneven revenue split based on performance like the ACC is doing now. It would still largely be an even baseline with a bonus for teams that do better.

I keep saying over and over that while some may think it's getting more exclusive, it's not really. They're looking for ways of more participation and involvement not less. We've seen teams like Boise, UCF, WMU, Utah, Cincy, TCU have opportunity they've never had before. Yea the money is being more stratified but I always say as long as you have opportunity you have a chance at big goals. In your conference you're largely competing with schools with the same resources as you.
 
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Plum Street

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You make it sound easy.
It is pretty easy considering . We don’t have to worry about being a Uconn, Syracuse or BC. We are currently in the BIG and control our destiny. We are Charlie and found that golden ticket.
It’s up to us what we do with the opportunity.
 
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koleszar

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Guy's nobodies getting kick out. The big boys need someone to kick around. You don't get to 11-1 by playing the best week in and week out. You get that by playing the Rutgers, Indiana's, Northwestern's, Vanderbilts and Georgia Tech's.

Boosters don't want to pay for 8-5. They can go ahead and start up a super conference of the top 30 to 40 teams and watch how fast fans who are used to winning all the time, suddenly have no interest in losing all the time.
 
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Politi heard a bunch of talking heads on ESPN and SiriusXM talking about Rutgers and Vanderbilt getting kicked out of their conferences. He then wrote this article hoping to be quoted by them on a national broadcast.

That’s the purpose of this, and I won’t click on it to help him realize it. At best, this is Politi looking for attention. At worst, it’s a poorly disguised way to once again remind NJ residents that we currently suck at football.

Either way, not worth the time.
That’s inaccurate. It was written as a follow up to the article in the Athletic. They had actually interviewed him but did not use his input in their article, which he thought was too positive for their take. It’s a well written and informative article and he brings up valid points. It doesn’t make things better by ignoring articles because you think you might disagree or by assuming what the context of the article might be.
 

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It’s a stupid click bait thread. Politis a jerk off for even suggesting the possibility. And it will not happen.
 
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