the rumor that University Christian and Pinelake will be combining in 2012? This is what I am hearing but can't decide if it changes the reputation that UCS has as the school were kids that get kicked out of NWR go. I am not from this area but my daughter startsK5 next year and I wouldn't mind another option for school.
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the rumor that University Christian and Pinelake will be combining in 2012? This is what I am hearing but can't decide if it changes the reputation that UCS has as the school were kids that get kicked out of NWR go. I am not from this area but my daughter startsK5 next year and I wouldn't mind another option for school.
With the exception of Northwest Elementary, the other four elementary schools in the NWR zone are as good as it gets. Not only in Mississippi, but nationally.
Highland Bluff, Northshore, Oakdale and Flowood are fine educational instituations. NWR Elementary is good, but its behind the other four. If you are going to go to a private elementary school, look at the parochial schools or FPDS downtown.
The UCS/Pinelake thing is happening. Figure it will be 2011-12 but may be 2012-13 - haven't got a definitive answer yet.
Highland Bluff, Northshore, Oakdale and Flowood are fine educational instituations. NWR Elementary is good, but its behind the other four. If you are going to go to a private elementary school, look at the parochial schools or FPDS downtown.
The UCS/Pinelake thing is happening. Figure it will be 2011-12 but may be 2012-13 - haven't got a definitive answer yet.
I have a child in elementary school and preschool at Pinelake, and we got a letter yesterday announcing a meeting to discuss upcoming plans. This is the first time we've gotten anything like this, so something is probably going on. Also, the PCS administrators have been looking into going through 12th grade for a while now (it currently goes through 6th grade).
school when outstanding public options like these in Rankin and Madison County are available. If one lived in a failing or dangerous school district, that might make sense, but the Rankin/Madison ones are not.
And yes, I know, its none of my damn business.
And yes, I know, its none of my damn business.
That may have been the reputation 10 years ago but I can tell you that it's not the case now. My daughter attends UCS and it is a really good school. Both grandmothers are retired lower elementary teachers and they can't say enough good about the education she'sreceivingthere.<div>dhm7t said:
</div><div>They rumors of the UCS and Pinelake mergers are true from what I've heard. The merger is mainly being driven by Pinelake, who wants to get out of the "school business" and focus on building more congregations.
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with the schools here to know. I grew up in Copiah county so I had to go to a private school, the public schools there are awful at best. I have always heard the Rankin/Madison schools are great but when you live in an area where the public school are terrible the stigma remains. I will just have to get over it, send her to Highland Bluff and see how it goes.
There was a thread earlier this week about there being some 1100 first graders in the Brandon zone this year which might explain why Park Place Christian in Pearl per 615 is getting some attention from Brandon parents. Like 615, I wouldn't go sofar as tosay that smaller would automatically be better.
that would like to see there kids have a good opportunity to participate in extracurricular events, namely sports.
I know people think that's stupid but its the truth of the matter.
And there are also plenty of people that simply think an private school education from JA or Prep is far superior. Im not saying it is, but, again, that's the truth.
I know people think that's stupid but its the truth of the matter.
And there are also plenty of people that simply think an private school education from JA or Prep is far superior. Im not saying it is, but, again, that's the truth.
I graduated from an MPSA Class A school over 25 years ago, and there were students from different public school districts who liked participating in athleticsthere who wouldn't havehad the opportunities to do so if they were at the 3A or 4A class level MHSAA schools that they would have attended.
If you were, you would:
Go to a certain church -- there are a couple of satisfactory options, but preferably CUMC.
Send your kids to a certain elementary school. Choose one of these -- JA, First Presbyterian, or if you and your wife are "progressive", St. Andrews.
Send your kids to a certain high school -- again, you have multiple options. Three, to be exact: JA, Prep, or St. A.
You will join the Country Club of Jackson. This part is non-negotiable.
She will join the Junior <span style="text-decoration:line-through">Plague</span> League.
She will not have a "job" per se, but will work extremely hard at Junior League, school events, tennis, afternoon tea (read: wine-drinking), shopping, and the scheduling of outside activities for the kids -- all of which will keep her very busy and make her tired.
When you get home from work, you need to be ready take over the kids. Like I said, she will be tired.
When they get older, if your kids went to JA, they are allowed to attend MSU or Ole Miss. If your kids went to Prep, sorry - there's only one option available.
All of this would fall under "Option A - staying happily married". There is an "Option B - other", but that can be discussed at another time.
Did I miss anything?
(For any NEJ women out there who may read this -- I describe this lifestyle with no malice or judgment. Just trying to give this young fellow a glimpse into why/who pays $10k (per child) to attend private school. Just trying to share my knowledge.)
Go to a certain church -- there are a couple of satisfactory options, but preferably CUMC.
Send your kids to a certain elementary school. Choose one of these -- JA, First Presbyterian, or if you and your wife are "progressive", St. Andrews.
Send your kids to a certain high school -- again, you have multiple options. Three, to be exact: JA, Prep, or St. A.
You will join the Country Club of Jackson. This part is non-negotiable.
She will join the Junior <span style="text-decoration:line-through">Plague</span> League.
She will not have a "job" per se, but will work extremely hard at Junior League, school events, tennis, afternoon tea (read: wine-drinking), shopping, and the scheduling of outside activities for the kids -- all of which will keep her very busy and make her tired.
When you get home from work, you need to be ready take over the kids. Like I said, she will be tired.
When they get older, if your kids went to JA, they are allowed to attend MSU or Ole Miss. If your kids went to Prep, sorry - there's only one option available.
All of this would fall under "Option A - staying happily married". There is an "Option B - other", but that can be discussed at another time.
Did I miss anything?
(For any NEJ women out there who may read this -- I describe this lifestyle with no malice or judgment. Just trying to give this young fellow a glimpse into why/who pays $10k (per child) to attend private school. Just trying to share my knowledge.)
My 12 Year old was at Pine Lake through 4th Grade, we put him in Brandon for a couple of years, he is now at Parkplace.
Main reason is you have to as a parent decide what is best for your child. My Son was distracted and overwhlemed in Brandon and was not progressing well. Smaller Class, participation, ability for Faculty/Staff/Student to live Faith is important to me.
So that is why we chose that. We are trying to prepare him for life not just put in the best school.
Main reason is you have to as a parent decide what is best for your child. My Son was distracted and overwhlemed in Brandon and was not progressing well. Smaller Class, participation, ability for Faculty/Staff/Student to live Faith is important to me.
So that is why we chose that. We are trying to prepare him for life not just put in the best school.
This is what I always tell people that live in the Madison or Rankin school districts.
Sending your child to a private school in grades K5-8 is a ridiculous waste of money. The public schools are too good and private schools for elementary school children are simply a status symbol in those districts.
However, if you send your child to daycare, it should be strongly considered to send them to a school for K3 and K4. In Rankin County, St. Paul's Catholic is the place to be. Those kids enter K5 a year ahead of most.
Now, grades 9-12 is where my private school ban is flexible. If you have a 529, you can pay for a high school private education with it.
A Rankin/Madison child should go to private school in grades 9-12 under one the following conditions:
1. Elite Academics. I don't mean your child is a straight A student. I mean, your child is gifted and teachers and/or administrators have told you this. In this case, only St. Andrew's or Jackson Prep should be considered, possibly Jackson Academy.
2. A Chance to Compete. Joe Teenager may enjoy playing football, but he's not good enough to play at Northwest Rankin. If he is an above average student, consider sending him to private school (Always remember the above average student part. A C-D student in public school isn't going to cut it at most private schools).
3. Above Average Students that are borderline elite. Sometimes the extra attention that a private school offers can turn Betty 25 ACT into Betty 32 ACT. This does not mean a lazy 15 ACT student can miraculously turn into a 31 ACT student just by going to a different school. This is a big mistake that parents make.
Under no circumstances should the following be considered.
1. Social standing. Grow the 17 up, or tell your wife to. Paying $10,000/year so your wife can drink afternoon tea with the Junior League is absurd. I'd go as far as if you live in the Madison school district and you send your child to Jackson Prep even though they are C students, you're a dumb17.
2. Because they'll get better scholarships. Not really. A smart public school kid that makes a 34 on the ACT is going to get the same scholarships that a private school kid that makes 34 on the ACT, except in a few cases (See 1. Elite Academics above)
3. Because a friend goes there. See social standing. I've seen good students ruined because they were sent to Prep when they weren't ready. Want to screw up a kid's confidence? Send the child that struggles to make a B in English to Prep and let them fail.
Sending your child to a private school in grades K5-8 is a ridiculous waste of money. The public schools are too good and private schools for elementary school children are simply a status symbol in those districts.
However, if you send your child to daycare, it should be strongly considered to send them to a school for K3 and K4. In Rankin County, St. Paul's Catholic is the place to be. Those kids enter K5 a year ahead of most.
Now, grades 9-12 is where my private school ban is flexible. If you have a 529, you can pay for a high school private education with it.
A Rankin/Madison child should go to private school in grades 9-12 under one the following conditions:
1. Elite Academics. I don't mean your child is a straight A student. I mean, your child is gifted and teachers and/or administrators have told you this. In this case, only St. Andrew's or Jackson Prep should be considered, possibly Jackson Academy.
2. A Chance to Compete. Joe Teenager may enjoy playing football, but he's not good enough to play at Northwest Rankin. If he is an above average student, consider sending him to private school (Always remember the above average student part. A C-D student in public school isn't going to cut it at most private schools).
3. Above Average Students that are borderline elite. Sometimes the extra attention that a private school offers can turn Betty 25 ACT into Betty 32 ACT. This does not mean a lazy 15 ACT student can miraculously turn into a 31 ACT student just by going to a different school. This is a big mistake that parents make.
Under no circumstances should the following be considered.
1. Social standing. Grow the 17 up, or tell your wife to. Paying $10,000/year so your wife can drink afternoon tea with the Junior League is absurd. I'd go as far as if you live in the Madison school district and you send your child to Jackson Prep even though they are C students, you're a dumb17.
2. Because they'll get better scholarships. Not really. A smart public school kid that makes a 34 on the ACT is going to get the same scholarships that a private school kid that makes 34 on the ACT, except in a few cases (See 1. Elite Academics above)
3. Because a friend goes there. See social standing. I've seen good students ruined because they were sent to Prep when they weren't ready. Want to screw up a kid's confidence? Send the child that struggles to make a B in English to Prep and let them fail.
Both of my kids go to PUBLIC school in Madison County. However, I can understand why parents send kids to private schools. Every kid is different, has different issues. Every kids responds to things in a different way socially, athletically, academically, etc. What is good for one kid may not be good for another. If I thought private school was better for my kid, I would sent them there. I had a neighbor who had one kid in public school at Madison Central and one in a small private school. He said that the one he sent to private school struggled academically in large class settings (Madison Central has over 400 per class).CivilEngineerDog said:
As I said, my kids go to public school. However, I hear crap about private school people being "uppity" or "snobby". I have found that 90% of the time it is the public school people who act "snobby" or "uppity"by criticizing the private school peopleabout school choice. I say to each his own. I'm sending mine to public school currently because I think it is the best place for my particular kids. What is best for my kids might not be best for someone else's
You pay for a mindset in elementary school, not an education. There's a reason I'm a badass, and it had nothing to do with Willard Harrell.
it wouldn't be for social status. Like I said, I went to Copiah Academy because the other option was Crystal Springs, enough said. She is at St. Paul currently and seems to be doing well, except for the discipline part, but this year has been some what of a disappointment. I am only concerned with academics and what the school can offer my child.
Again this is whereI disagree. Every kid is different. To say that private school in grades K5-8 isa ridiculous waste of money is a blanket statement, and you can't use a blanket statement.615dawg said:
Lookatitem 2 (a chance to compete). Is iteasier tobe a star or getplaying timeon the Canton Academy football team or the Madison Central football team? ObviouslyCanton Academywould easier. Would it beeasier to be a star or get playing time on the CantonAcademy baseball team or the Velma Jackson baseball team? According to yourlogic,Canton Academy would beeasier. In truth,it would be much easier to star at Velma Jackson, as Canton Academy is much more talented in baseball (theyabsolutely destroyed a much larger Canton HighSchool twice with the mercy rule).
Also item 3 (because a friend goes there).Kids often do better academically when they are comfortable, and havingfriends can increase a comfort level.
For the record, both of my kidsare in the Madison County Public School system.
thank God families in Mississippi still have options beyond public schools. Not every other option is necessarily a panacea, but at least the option is there. Who knows how long alternatives will be available, but for the time being other options are available. And that's all the generalization I need to know.
Went to NWR through 5th grade. Then went to St. Andrew's. Kids at NWR called me poor for wearing the Levi's jeans found at Dillards as opposed to whatever the 17 designer jeans they had. I never encountered any such snobbery at St. Andrew's, despite the fact that several of my classmates had parents who made as much in a week as the parents of the d-bag kids at NWR made in a year.<div>
</div><div>But don't worry, the public schools in your town are top notch and not like the others. The bad public schools and teachers are only in bad places.</div>
</div><div>But don't worry, the public schools in your town are top notch and not like the others. The bad public schools and teachers are only in bad places.</div>
I've had kids in both NWR area elementary (North Shore) schools and private school. Each child is different and should be evaluated on his/her individual needs. That beingwritten, my child who went from public to private inearlyelementaryyears was behind when he got to private school. However, I think the gap lessens as they progress into middle school (moreopportunitiesfor a child to get into AP classes, etc.).
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people, that would explain the snobbiness. And yes, I'm one too, and better than you.
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that the private schools could without a doubt compete with the public schools, it's baseball.
Canton High School actually has a great coach- Josh Reagan. He was at Brandon for years and is very good, and played at MSU. But overall, Canton High School is a complete train wreck. Canton is the anti-Madison Central. If they ever decided to join the Madison County school district, it would do wonders for that town, and Canton would probably be the next big Jackson suburb.
But yeah, Canton's baseball team sucks.
The thing about Madison Central is, I feel like any student could get an education that is as good as Prep or JA- look at the number of national merit semi-finalists that MC produces. Of course, it isn't per capita as good as Prep, but that's because MC as a public school has to take students of all kinds of levels of academia. For me, and I was in the gifted programs at MC, as I'm sure all of you can tell, I thought it was great because I wasn't just around "the elite"- I was around people from all kinds of backgrounds. My classes were big too, which wasn't really a negative because when I got to MSU and I went into that pshychology class with 100 people in it, it didn't bother me at all. When I went to MSU, I was very well prepared.
What makes MC unique too is that the school also has excellent athletic programs and excellent fine arts programs. And the students are competing at the highest level of high school sports in the state. I knew some people from St. Andrew's, and we always thought they were kind of weird. Prep people at least seem normal to me at least. But the combination of sports and fine arts is something that neither of those schools can offer at MC's level.
There are a lot of excellent schools in the state besides MC, but if you live in Madison County, you're paying for the public school anyway, so you might as well go there. At least that was my parents reasoning. Also, my parents felt like they would rather use their money on things like a family vacation rather than school tuition. And me and my brother agreed with them.
"There are a lot of excellent schools in the state besides MC, but if you live in Madison County, you're paying for the public school anyway, so you might as well go there. At least that was my parents reasoning. Also, my parents felt like they would rather use their money on things like a family vacation rather than school tuition. And me and my brother agreed with them. "
I agree with the rabbi in an earlier post in this thread; having a choice of where parents can send their children to school is priceless. Some parents may spend 10k a year on education as a status symbol and be justifiably perceived as snobs. Others may spend the 10k so that their child gets individual attention in the classroom or gets to pray in class and subscribe to a christ centered education rather than the secular world view. Still others may do it so their child can start on a football or basketball team. Funny how some parents of public school children look down their noses at parents who choose the private option. Perhaps a few of them do so out of guilt for spending $ on bass boats, cars, and vacations rather than school tuition. In other cases, maybe it is just human nature to judge those who choose a different path. In my opinion, it all comes down to choice is a good thing. To me, there is no better place to spend money than on your child's education. Residents of Madison County are fortunate to have great choices in both the private and public arena. When I was a kid, my parents didn't have that luxury.
I agree with the rabbi in an earlier post in this thread; having a choice of where parents can send their children to school is priceless. Some parents may spend 10k a year on education as a status symbol and be justifiably perceived as snobs. Others may spend the 10k so that their child gets individual attention in the classroom or gets to pray in class and subscribe to a christ centered education rather than the secular world view. Still others may do it so their child can start on a football or basketball team. Funny how some parents of public school children look down their noses at parents who choose the private option. Perhaps a few of them do so out of guilt for spending $ on bass boats, cars, and vacations rather than school tuition. In other cases, maybe it is just human nature to judge those who choose a different path. In my opinion, it all comes down to choice is a good thing. To me, there is no better place to spend money than on your child's education. Residents of Madison County are fortunate to have great choices in both the private and public arena. When I was a kid, my parents didn't have that luxury.