North Davidson at East Forsyth

[ForsythFootball]

For those in the triad this is one of the only match ups on the area and I expect a full stadium for this one much like the West Forsyth game last year.

I feel like East has the favorable matchup here, I say that because the truth is the ND OL/DL is and was already pushed around so East will have a lot of success running the ball. ND will have to get a strong passing game going quick. I expect a good high scoring affair in kernersville

 

[M193__55G]

Not liking this matchup at all for my Black Knights due to the size difference across the lines, but they won't quit. They'll come to play and we will see what happens.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

Well, well. Long time no see Eagles. Seems not that long ago we were in a scrimmage. Forsyth is correct, huge crowd will be there as both the eagles and knights , as well as quite a few other triad people will pack the house. I will not be missing this one.

 

[Warhead1]

Count me in on this one as well. North Davidson passing attack against the East Forsyth secondary. Should be a very fun game to watch.

 

[Mr Honda]

Should be a high scoring affair. I'll be at Catholic and Mount Tabor, but will be checking scores on this shoot out. Just don't do a Gibbons/Conley shootout of 70-42..okay? Show me a little defense at least. he he he

 

[crazyduke3]

North will have to light the scoreboard up to win this one. These two have rarely met lately.

Thankfully, it's a pretty close game for a round 2 game and North faithful will not have to travel far to be there so it will be a huge turnout.

Go get them knights !!

 

[ForsythFootball]

From what I can see it's just not how you want to beat east.

If you wanna beat east you have to run, run run. Nobody goes into east forsyth really and try to win with a pass attack and I'm not saying they are perfect but I feel like if north Davidson goes out there and throws the ball a lot they will be intercepted a lot.

 

[CatholicCougs14]

Should be a high scoring affair. I'll be at Catholic and Mount Tabor, but will be checking scores on this shoot out. Just don't do a Gibbons/Conley shootout of 70-42..okay? Show me a little defense at least. he he he

Let me know when you get there would love to shake your hand

 

[Mr Honda]

Let me know when you get there would love to shake your hand

That would be cool.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

TJ Boyce is a load at running back. North actually has a pretty balanced offense, they just take what the defense gives them.

 

[CPC4LIFE3]

The blueprint to beat East Forsyth was established by Page HS... Big back- run it down their throat. Time eating Clock Drives. When they cheat up to play the run, hit them with the deep pass... gotta run the ball and win a shootout. East Running game is so powerful and they can throw. DB's are next level great.

 

[CatholicCougs14]

The blueprint to beat East Forsyth was established by Page HS... Big back- run it down their throat. Time eating Clock Drives. When they cheat up to play the run, hit them with the deep pass... gotta run the ball and win a shootout. East Running game is so powerful and they can throw. DB's are next level great.

*Donald Trump voice It is so powerful, believe me! It is a great and power run game! YUGE run game.

 

[bumblebee33]

The blueprint to beat East Forsyth was established by Page HS... Big back- run it down their throat. Time eating Clock Drives. When they cheat up to play the run, hit them with the deep pass... gotta run the ball and win a shootout. East Running game is so powerful and they can throw. DB's are next level great.

As usual, what are you talking about? Neither team was very good that night. That game was a turnover and punt fest by both sides. Difference was the Page RB broke two long td runs and they capitalized on the short field from turnovers. QB threw for 70 yards and a couple picks. Page had one "sustained" drive all night right after the half. East offense was just terrible, QB couldn't throw a rock in the ocean. Still had a chance late. Had Page in 3rd and long down 7 with all the momentum. Missed assignment on the edge and Leake breaks the 2nd long td run down the sideline. The game was good though, it exposed the East weaknesses and coaches have addressed them. I think you would see a much sharper game from both sides if they played today.

Idea is good, pound the ball and then burn them over the top when they cheat up. Pretty sure that's a good plan for all football games though....

But this game was catch East on a terrible offensive night and hope your RB breaks 2 long td runs. Not sure that's a good blueprint to plan for.

 

[ForsythFootball]

East contained the run all Friday night till garbage time, yes I'm aware it was vs Harding but point being they had a very good RB who will end up at a top football program some day when he is older.

No team really plans to go to east forsyth and beat them with the pass attack, should be interesting haven't really seen one team try to pass the ball more than run against them this year.

 

[M193__55G]

TJ Boyce is a load at running back. North actually has a pretty balanced offense, they just take what the defense gives them.

I just looked up TJ's stats, and he has over 2,000 all purpose yards this year. 1589 rushing, 448 receiving (mostly on screens). He's had a great year.

 

[ForsythFootball]

They won't be running against east forsyth not gonna work well with that DL vs ND OL matchup.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

You might be right. But any given Friday... We weren't supposed to have a shot against Scotland last year either. I'll be showing up and supporting the knights win or lose.

 

[scots roll]

You might be right. But any given Friday... We weren't supposed to have a shot against Scotland last year either. I'll be showing up and supporting the knights win or lose.

TOUCHE' !!!!!!!!

 

[ForsythFootball]

I just feel like ND provides a unique set of circumstances.

To beat east everyone knows you want to run the ball and at the same time chew clock. Well I'm ND's situation I think you play back yard football and throw some bombs and hope they work. East DLine and Linebackers just over power the ND OL so you gotta put the QB in the shotgun and hope you can get going on offense.

To win ND is gonna have to put score East and to do that they will need Touchdowns ND may get one lucky run but they won't dominate the line even the ND coaching staff admits that and has said prior to this week east has one of the biggest OL/DL groups in the state. I'm not arguing any givin night a team can win just saying the pass may be more effective if they can do it without getting intercepted

 

[BlackKnightNut]

I hear you, forsyth. It has never been the north o that worries me. We'll get our points. What worries me is east running all over our defense.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

We need a couple of lucky pick 6's or fumbles for TD's lol

 

[M193__55G]

I'm with you BlackKnightNut. I'm afraid the stops will be rare for ND, so we gotta score nearly every possession against a really good EF defense. We need some magic, but you just never know what might happen.

 

[utbb01]

I will be rooting for the Black Knights on this one and I'm so proud to hear TJ doing so well. Carver Nation is behind yall ND just leave it on the field!! Make sure someone convinces TJ to run track please!!!

 

[ForsythFootball]

I hear you, forsyth. It has never been the north o that worries me. We'll get our points. What worries me is east running all over our defense.

Not so sure you'll get your points. It's harder than it sounds, I'm well aware of the high scoring offense and maybe ND gets a few good passes going but not for a second if I'm the ND coaching staff am I not worried about throwing the football.

East forsyth has 19 interceptions on the year and most teams throw the football once for ever 5 or 6 rushing attempts. Even one of the best teams they played page Will Jones had about 70 passing yards 2 INT and maybe a TD. There stats are just like ND but East doesn't let teams pass.

Then you get to special teams for East Forsyth. When they must FG instead of TD they are 10-11 with a long If 47 in a game and 56 in practice. East kicker is expected to play for UVA or Wake Forest I believe and is a junior.

I think it's hard all the way around for ND but they will always make it interesting.

 

[BlueStar12]

There will be

Not so sure you'll get your points. It's harder than it sounds, I'm well aware of the high scoring offense and maybe ND gets a few good passes going but not for a second if I'm the ND coaching staff am I not worried about throwing the football.

East forsyth has 19 interceptions on the year and most teams throw the football once for ever 5 or 6 rushing attempts. Even one of the best teams they played page Will Jones had about 70 passing yards 2 INT and maybe a TD. There stats are just like ND but East doesn't let teams pass.

Then you get to special teams for East Forsyth. When they must FG instead of TD they are 10-11 with a long If 47 in a game and 56 in practice. East kicker is expected to play for UVA or Wake Forest I believe and is a junior.

I think it's hard all the way around for ND but they will always make it interesting.

North has a great QB who has a very quick release, the question will be if he has time to throw and if the Oline can hold off EF's D for pass plays to develop.

 

[BlueandGold34]

Not so sure you'll get your points. It's harder than it sounds, I'm well aware of the high scoring offense and maybe ND gets a few good passes going but not for a second if I'm the ND coaching staff am I not worried about throwing the football.

East forsyth has 19 interceptions on the year and most teams throw the football once for ever 5 or 6 rushing attempts. Even one of the best teams they played page Will Jones had about 70 passing yards 2 INT and maybe a TD. There stats are just like ND but East doesn't let teams pass.

Then you get to special teams for East Forsyth. When they must FG instead of TD they are 10-11 with a long If 47 in a game and 56 in practice. East kicker is expected to play for UVA or Wake Forest I believe and is a junior.

I think it's hard all the way around for ND but they will always make it interesting.

Man....they sound unbeatable. lol

 

[Kicked Off]

Might want to check your sources about UVA or WFU regarding their future kicker. We hear from both of these schools every week along with ND, Miami, Lousiville, VT, UNC, NCSU and about 10 others from P5 conferences. Last time I checked there is only 1 junior place kicker in the country with a scholarship offer as of today. I don't pretend to know everything, but I can tell you that your reference to EF and their kicker is not accurate. He is a VERY good kicker, I even will say a likely D1 kicker, but your college references for the EF kicker are not correct as of 11/22/16. Anything can change, most colleges don't even know what their 2017 place kicking needs are as of today. Kickers are usually recruited late/last and it always depends on how bad the team needs one.

 

[BlueandGold34]

Might want to check your sources about UVA or WFU regarding their future kicker. We hear from both of these schools every week along with ND, Miami, Lousiville, VT, UNC, NCSU and about 10 others from P5 conferences. Last time I checked there is only 1 junior place kicker in the country with a scholarship offer as of today. I don't pretend to know everything, but I can tell you that your reference to EF and their kicker is not accurate. He is a VERY good kicker, I even will say a likely D1 kicker, but your college references for the EF kicker are not correct as of 11/22/16. Anything can change, most colleges don't even know what their 2017 place kicking needs are as of today. Kickers are usually recruited late/last and it always depends on how bad the team's needs one.

He has no clue what he is talking about. He overheard some parent or something.

 

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Page didn't need to pass against EF. Leake finished with 242 yds rushing. Why pass against them, when they can't stop the run.

 

[ForsythFootball]

1.) I never said he was offered, he goes to virtually every Wake game and statistically one of the best kickers. Even news crews talk about the kid If you want to argue about this you are just going for an argument and picking fights that I'm not here for.

2.) east is beatable just not in this game. ND has a small line, even ND guys should admit that it may be hard to run the ball.

3.) With the exception of two plays Page was held to like 150 yards rushing all together. So let's please not act like page ran all up and down the field all night. If you were at the game you would be aware that the game was a punt fest and close until the 4th.

 

[ForsythFootball]

Might want to check your sources about UVA or WFU regarding their future kicker. We hear from both of these schools every week along with ND, Miami, Lousiville, VT, UNC, NCSU and about 10 others from P5 conferences. Last time I checked there is only 1 junior place kicker in the country with a scholarship offer as of today. I don't pretend to know everything, but I can tell you that your reference to EF and their kicker is not accurate. He is a VERY good kicker, I even will say a likely D1 kicker, but your college references for the EF kicker are not correct as of 11/22/16. Anything can change, most colleges don't even know what their 2017 place kicking needs are as of today. Kickers are usually recruited late/last and it always depends on how bad the team needs one.

The whole Wake thing is a side story about his parents working at Wake for over fifteen years and the program and coaching staff is close to him and like you said he is d1. There's a back story just wasn't gonna go into it.

 

[BlueandGold34]

1.) I never said he was offered, he goes to virtually every Wake game and statistically one of the best kickers. Even news crews talk about the kid If you want to argue about this you are just going for an argument and picking fights that I'm not here for.

2.) east is beatable just not in this game. ND has a small line, even ND guys should admit that it may be hard to run the ball.

3.) With the exception of two plays Page was held to like 150 yards rushing all together. So let's please not act like page ran all up and down the field all night. If you were at the game you would be aware that the game was a punt fest and close until the 4th.

You said " expected" to play. You were just making it up. In regards to Page running the ball EF has an issue with big physical Olines. They only see them once or twice a year but when they do its ugly. I was at the game and Page did move the ball and score pretty well. If it was any team that struggled it was EF. They scored on a HB option pass at the end of the half that required a circus catch by Beal and a punt return.

 

[Warhead1]

North Davidson has a team that can flat out score points. They have scored a lot of TD's against everyone they have played this year. Their QB is one of the most accurate passers in the NW part of the State. He runs their offense to perfection. I think ND can hang with and even beat East Forsyth. The key will be who can get the most stops in this shoot out. Can East get a few stops if they do I think they win. If East shoots themselves in the foot and has a few turnovers or starts out slow like they did against Page ND will make them pay. Should be a fun game to watch....If you like explosive offenses this is the game you need to go check out.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

Honestly, the size of one's line is overrated to me. Boyce would not have 1500 yards this year if North's line couldn't block. Technique is far more important than size, but when you can get size along with technique it is unstoppable. Hence mallard creek the last few years. I've seen small o lines like Catholic dominate people on technique alone and seen big o lines get pushed around, like Reynolds back in the mid 2000s.

With that said, east may dominate North's o line come Friday. But it will be because they were better, not because of size.

 

[BlueandGold34]

Honestly, the size of one's line is overrated to me. Boyce would not have 1500 yards this year if North's line couldn't block. Technique is far more important than size, but when you can get size along with technique it is unstoppable. Hence mallard creek the last few years. I've seen small o lines like Catholic dominate people on technique alone and seen big o lines get pushed around, like Reynolds back in the mid 2000s.

With that said, east may dominate North's o line come Friday. But it will be because they were better, not because of size.

The best Oline Mallard Creek ever had was 2013 and they didn't have a kid over 255lbs. Strong, athletic, good technique and maybe most important a killer instinct.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

When i

The best Oline Mallard Creek ever had was 2013 and they didn't have a kid over 255lbs. Strong, athletic, good technique and maybe most important a killer instinct.

Whenever I've coached o line I always preferred to have kids that could get off the ball and hit. Size is nice but if you can't get your first 2-3 steps down before the opponent you are a weak link in the chain.

 

[Warhead1]

Everyone keeps talking about this game like East is going to blow ND out by 50 points. I don't think that will be the case because ND's offense is way too good. I watched the ND QB's highlights and he is down right special. Where is he going to play his college ball at ND fans?

 

[Kicked Off]

1.) I never said he was offered, he goes to virtually every Wake game and statistically one of the best kickers. Even news crews talk about the kid If you want to argue about this you are just going for an argument and picking fights that I'm not here for.

2.) east is beatable just not in this game. ND has a small line, even ND guys should admit that it may be hard to run the ball.

3.) With the exception of two plays Page was held to like 150 yards rushing all together. So let's please not act like page ran all up and down the field all night. If you were at the game you would be aware that the game was a punt fest and close until the 4th.

1. Expected to play implies something whether you realize that or not. You also brought up 2 ACC schools, not just WFU.

2. Going to games is not an indicator of getting a college scholarship. We see kids at games all the time, the majority will never sniff an offer from said school.

3. EF kicker is having a great year, stats look strong. He may end up being All State in NC for this season. I believe I was VERY complimentary of your kicker. For the record, HS stats for a kicker are not that big of an indicator of college offers. Google how many FGs Eddie Pineiro at Florida kicked while he was in HS.

4. Find a more reliable source than the local news crew(s) when it comes to evaluating talent.

5. No one was trying to pick a fight with you, much less argue. Remove panties from butt crack....

6. ND fans/crew haven't said anything about it being easy to run all over EF, as a matter of fact I think we have said it would take a special game for us to have a chance to win. Not sure how much praise we need to heap on your team before your appetite is satisfied. Reach out to the Charlotte guys for that, they seem to be big fans of your program!

 

[BlackKnightNut]

Everyone keeps talking about this game like East is going to blow ND out by 50 points. I don't think that will be the case because ND's offense is way too good. I watched the ND QB's highlights and he is down right special. Where is he going to play his college ball at ND fans?

Keep in mind this is hearsay, but I was told he will be playing baseball at Catawba. Any news, kicked off? I trust your info more than others...

 

[bumblebee33]

You said " expected" to play. You were just making it up. In regards to Page running the ball EF has an issue with big physical Olines. They only see them once or twice a year but when they do its ugly. I was at the game and Page did move the ball and score pretty well. If it was any team that struggled it was EF. They scored on a HB option pass at the end of the half that required a circus catch by Beal and a punt return.

Leak's yardage that night is what it is, no one can say it didn't happen. However, East did a good job against the run on most carries. It's not like Leake was getting 8, 9, 10 yards per carry all night. But all that was negated when they gave up the 2 big ones. I will say that the front 7 is not deep, very few non-starters in the rotation. They get away with it because they usually get off the field pretty quick. But they can get fatigued and allow home runs at times.

The struggle at Page was much more the offense than the defense. As you said, they got the miracle catch from Beal and the punt return. Really nothing out of the offense for 3 quarters. Passing game was atrocious so they just loaded up against the run. (You can't discount the impact that the lack of offense had on the defense either.)

The passing game has gotten much better as the season went on with Sligh and Childs on the outside and Kellum over the middle. Hopefully they can keep it going and not allow teams to load the box like Page was able to. 2 concerns at this point: lack of depth in defensive front 7 and lack of passing consistency against quality defenses. If the offense does its part, the defense should be ok.