I thought he got out coached all night. Poor offensive play calling I thought among other things. Refs bailed them out so many times.
Not being talked about how poor Freezus coached
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Yea it's starting to look like now that the new is wearing off, the team's emotion is down a notch and his offense isn't catching anyone off guard. I expect Treadwell to get tired of catching screen pass after screen pass for a .500 team after a while too. And we've already seen Nkemdiche's temper and his and his brother's running "mates". Freeze will have to work hard to keep the premadonna train on the tracks if they don't start winning more games.
There offense is very predictable, but the point of it is to keep the D off balance and hit you with a big play. It's HB dive after HB dive, to jet sweep after jet sweep, read options, quick hitters, and slants, then they hope to hit you with the big one. If the D can get penetration and disrupt the offense, it isn't very effective.
Bottom line: It's only got a few plays in the play book. They avg last or next to last in SEC games only in rushing yards. Only 130ypg.
Meanwhile, Dan Mullen has the 9th toughest schedule in the country, and with a bunch of injuries every where including all-sec starting OL and a bunch of freshmens and soph, he gooes 6-6, and breaks the school record for total offensive yards per game in a season. QB is also a freshman, and star in the making. I think both programs are in good hands and good shape talent wise, but Mullen took a step forward after struggling first half of the year; Freezus took a step back in year 2. This is opposite of what Dan did in year two. I do agree with them setting high standards too early in their tenure for themselves having excellent success given the circumstances they were delt.
Bottom line: It's only got a few plays in the play book. They avg last or next to last in SEC games only in rushing yards. Only 130ypg.
Meanwhile, Dan Mullen has the 9th toughest schedule in the country, and with a bunch of injuries every where including all-sec starting OL and a bunch of freshmens and soph, he gooes 6-6, and breaks the school record for total offensive yards per game in a season. QB is also a freshman, and star in the making. I think both programs are in good hands and good shape talent wise, but Mullen took a step forward after struggling first half of the year; Freezus took a step back in year 2. This is opposite of what Dan did in year two. I do agree with them setting high standards too early in their tenure for themselves having excellent success given the circumstances they were delt.
The deep ball is set up by successful dinkin and dunkin mixed with quick hitters with the RBs off of play action.
I don't think anyone pretends Freeze is anywhere close to perfect as a gameday coach -- but does he learn and grow from his mistakes? That's what will tell the tale on him longterm. Thusfar, he's appeared to self-scout pretty well to me overall. But, like Pat said, Wallace's arm strength never came back this year -- and it hindered the best aspect of their offensive game.
The one that significantly underperformed this year was Dave Wommack IMO... After going Joe Lee and surprising me last year(I thought he was a VERY meh addition to Freeze's staff up front not much different than Torbush was to us), he went very, very vanilla this year -- and had a defense that underperformed relative to it's talent level after overachieving last year IMO. They were about the same in total D and a hair better in scoring D -- but that's still underperforming when you bring back basically everyone on defense along with a huge infusion of new talent.
I'll be disappointed as hell if I look up after 12 games next year and we aren't a SIGNIFICANTLY better defense than we are after 12 this year... and that is a fair comparison with what we've got coming back vs what OM had coming back(not even considering their infusion of new talent)...
The one that significantly underperformed this year was Dave Wommack IMO... After going Joe Lee and surprising me last year(I thought he was a VERY meh addition to Freeze's staff up front not much different than Torbush was to us), he went very, very vanilla this year -- and had a defense that underperformed relative to it's talent level after overachieving last year IMO. They were about the same in total D and a hair better in scoring D -- but that's still underperforming when you bring back basically everyone on defense along with a huge infusion of new talent.
I'll be disappointed as hell if I look up after 12 games next year and we aren't a SIGNIFICANTLY better defense than we are after 12 this year... and that is a fair comparison with what we've got coming back vs what OM had coming back(not even considering their infusion of new talent)...
I thought Moore might be an effective receiver for them. Not sure he can play any other position. Might be a nice 3rd down back to throw to. I've seen him get shut down more than once by a good 2A HS defense. He's fast but that's about all I saw (course I ain't no college recruiter either).
At one point Ole Miss was playing a walk-on back up TE at defensive end. CJ Johnson barely played, Charles Sawyer missed half the year, Denzel missed several games and was obviously hampered in others. That's the 3 returning leaders from last year. What Wommack did against LSU was borderline miraculous. He also had an excellent game plan against Bama and held Mizzou to 24. The only game where he really crapped the bed to me was Vandy.
Considering how well the back-ups played, I hope he focuses on the interior O-line. Fortunately recruiting is going pretty well.
Doesn't say much for Channing Ward does it?
Everyone played with injuries in the SEC. MSU lost the captain of our defense and starting SS in game 1 for the season, lost interior DL for multiple games, lost a starting DE for at least 1 or 2, lost both starting corners for several games, lost our backup FS for the year -- while the starter played the whole year on a torn ACL, lost prob our most talented corner to a 5 game suspension, lost our backup middle linebacker for his career, etc... I think Autry and Chris Jones were the only defensive "starters" that didn't have injury troubles at any point this year and miss time.
If you say so. I think you'll look back at it when it becomes clear the amount of talent you've got on the defensive side and see his tenure as tremendously wasted opportunity, much like we do with Wilson and Torbush.
Channing played most of that game so I'm not sure what your point is.
As for your next point, yes you had a lot of injuries. You also gave up 50+ twice. Despite our injury situation, the most Wommack gave up was 41 to Manziel. Missouri's 24 was a tie for the lowest they had all season. Overall, I was satisfied with Wommack.
As for your next point, yes you had a lot of injuries. You also gave up 50+ twice. Despite our injury situation, the most Wommack gave up was 41 to Manziel. Missouri's 24 was a tie for the lowest they had all season. Overall, I was satisfied with Wommack.
I wouldn't go so far...
If our kicker hits the easy fg, we win. If our QB doesn't turn the ball over 4 times, we probably win.
Yea, Freeze didn't coach his best game but it was very winnable, we just beat ourselves.
Now go back to bashing Freeze if it makes you feel better.
If our kicker hits the easy fg, we win. If our QB doesn't turn the ball over 4 times, we probably win.
Yea, Freeze didn't coach his best game but it was very winnable, we just beat ourselves.
Now go back to bashing Freeze if it makes you feel better.
If "if's" and "buts"....
You act like we didn't miss some easy opportunities as well.
What an incredible insight .... if we had none of our turnovers, missed field goals, and other mistakes while the other team still had all of theirs, we'd have won more games! Genius!
I thought Ole Miss's defense played well this year. Once MSU worked through the new players and spate of injuries in the secondary, I thought its defense also played well this year.
Did we not miss a field goal as well? If we didn't miss that we only win by 3 and you don't have to also deal with how you lost in overtime. But to make you feel better about it lets give each other the 3 points for the missed field goals. We still go to overtime so you don't win it and we still get to see Wallace face plant. Is that okie dokie with you?
How bout if we had played with our 17ing starting QB for more than 11 minutes, maybe the score would indicate so. God almighty, it is impossible to plant it in some of your heads that we had injuries, you had injuries, we had turnovers, you had turnovers, we missed opportunities, you missed opportunities, but at the end of the day, we won, you lost. And all we get to hear is "boo 17ing hoo, if only our QB hadn't turned the ball over, if only our kicker could be clutch." ****.
While we are playing this game, what if we don't give you guys a gift TD on a blocked punt? Combine that with Dak being able to play more than part of one quarter and Ole Miss would have gotten curb stomped.
Honest question here, suppose the game was in Oxford and we came in with Dak and you guys had the third string QB starting (ie no Wallace and no Brunetti) what do you think the outcome would be?
Incredible logic there, Aristotle.
3rd string QB, missed FG, refs missed two turnovers, injuries, a cripple at Safety (even though he almost single handedly beat your starz), etc...shall I go on?
You guys' excuses are laughable. And in case you haven't noticed, there's no use spewing them to State fans because we know they're garbage. You're obviously just trying to convince yourselves that you lost the game instead of admitting that we just flat out beat you despite several disadvantages.