Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

Coach34

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

just short of going out. What a crazy year

I'll be glad when we are a little stronger next season
 

Todd4State

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

I say our ballpark hurts us.

And before someone plays the dimensions card- the ball does not travel well at Dudy-Noble Field- and the new bats have made it even more difficult.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

..everybody moans about how we can't hit HR's @ Dudy Noble, then some SEC team comes to Dudy-Noble for a weekend series & hits 5 HR's over 3 games.


It hasn't happened yet, but it will probably start with Ole Miss next weekend.


The bottom line is other SEC teams have batters strong enough to go yard @ Dudy-Noble, but MSU never does.


If you bring in the fences @ DN, you'll have top-tier SEC teams coming to Starkville for a weekend series & hitting 7-8 HR's over a 3 game series.


Taking that into consideration, please do not screw with DN's dimensions.
 

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

THAT'S BASEBALL1!!1!11!!!

As much as we liked to knock Polk about that comment it's true. We've had a ton of bad luck. 6 of our 10 sec losses have been by a total of 9 runs.

I wish we were better but I'm satisfied with this young team. And I dare someone to start a fire Butch Thompson thread.
 

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

Dynamite stuff guys! Save this for the podcast, this is gold.
 
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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

Increase it by just a touch. I don't want to see the old days of poking a ball out of the yard off the end of the bat but geez, I've seen some crushed balls literally die these last 2 years.I'm againstshortening the fences for now.It would increase production but I see a tradeoff when you factor in opposing teams would also have luxury of the shorter fences. That's why the bat situation is my first wish. I'm all for pitching and defense but the college game has become really boring when a 4 run deficit is now almost impossible for anyone to overcome. Comebacks and rallies are part of what makes baseball a great sport and that dynamic is completely changed with the current restrictions.
 

8dog

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

this is not a dynamite staff especially with some of Reed's performances. And this team doesn't hit well regardless of where the fences are.

Last night, Fullerton caught a ball that would have been out of most parks.
 
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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

I know the stadium expansion hurt the ball's ability to carry, but back when we had elite players they had no problem going yard. I honestly think the impact is minimal - it's there, but not as big a deal as we think. Guys that were true home run threats never had problems.....Connor Powers, Tyler Moore, Brad Corley, etc.<div>
</div><div>At the end of the day, both teams play in the park on a given day.</div>
 

Coach34

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

the ball just dies now at Dudy Noble. And it makes the baseball game boring as ****
 

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

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..everybody moans about how we can't hit HR's @ Dudy Noble, then some SEC team comes to Dudy-Noble for a weekend series & hits 5 HR's over 3 games.
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</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">This season not one other SEC team has hit a HR at Dudy Noble and we have hit 2. Last season we hit 13 Home Runs at home in SEC play and we had a 5 Home run series while no other SEC team did and visiting SEC teams only hit 9 Home Runs at Dudy Noble... Of course it doesn't hurt to finally have SEC pitchers pitching for MSU either. </span></div>
 

Todd4State

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

We have a guy that is a probable first round pick, and we are in the top half of the SEC. What's wrong with Kendall Graveman, Luis Pollorena, Holder, and heck even our freshmen have pitched well for the most part? Good gosh, this years Evan Mitchell would've been our ace last year.

To me, the only one worth complaining about is Girodo and maybe Routt. And they hardly ever pitches anymore and Routt has been solid out of the bullpen.

The pitching staff is what is keeping us in and winning us games- and that's with Reed struggling.

It sure as hell hasn't been the hitting that has carried us this year.
 

Todd4State

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

RonnyAtmosphere said:
It hasn't happened yet, but it will probably start with Ole Miss next weekend.




The bottom line is other SEC teams have batters strong enough to go yard @ Dudy-Noble, but MSU never does.



Yeah- the other teams have batters strong enough to hit the ball out even though by your own admission, they never do. Seems logical to me.
 

8dog

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

3 pitchers. But Reed hasn't been what he was. In conference, we are 8th in ERA and 10th in BAA.

Pollerana has been a non factor until Tuesday, Holder has thrown 5 innings in conference and hasn't thrown much when it counts. Evan Mitchell has been erratic. We still pitch sunday by committee. Outside of Stratton and Graveman, we have 3 guys that have thrown double digit SEC innings and their ERAs are all 5+.

Like I said, this is not some great staff so let's leave well enough alone with the fences. When we get good and we want some excitement, then move them in.
 

Todd4State

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

I'm pretty sure Evan is the Sunday starter. Cohen may say it's TBA, but I'll be surprised if it's anyone other than Evan.

The stats you were looking at- our team ERA was 4.35. After these two games, it dropped all the way to 3.91.

Plus, let's be real here- it's not like Scott Stricklin is going to move the fences in next weekend anyway. So, even if our pitching staff is as bad as you think it is, it doesn't really matter because we're going to have a different staff next year anyway.

And I think it's safe to say that people want some excitement now.

Like I said, if you want to get those Perfect Game players that you want- we're going to have to do some things to attract them. And bringing in the fences is one of them.
 

8dog

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

that is a HUGE disappointment. We have no one we trust. Strat, Grave and Reed have thrown 114 of our 154 innings in conference.

I'd rather win than have excitement so adding excitement is not a good argument to me. No one is going to come out to watch the other team circle the bases. Its not pure coincidence that we became more competitive when the bats changed. I think Cohen made us more competitive to an extent, but he also didn't transform our staff into a bunch of cy young winners.

What do you base your statement about recruiting PG players on?
 

LR1400

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

It seems our problem is we recruit gnats at most every position and we also encourage what little power we have to hit like a slap hitter.
 

Todd4State

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

that our staff got better as they gained experience. Stratton, Graveman and Reed are workhorses that eat up innings. I'm not going to complain about that.

About the PG players- many of those are out of state guys. Many- if not most- want to play in the SEC. I think we all agree that we have been passed by our are at least equal with most SEC teams, so we can't use that to our advantage anymore with elite out of state guys. If you are a power hitter, why would you want to go play somewhere that you can't hit the ball out? Why not go to, say Auburn, Florida, etc.? And why would you go play somewhere that there is no one in the stands? That's why we have to do a better job with our overall atmosphere.

We get a lot of good in state players because of our history and tradition in state- see Woodruff, Lindgren, Renfroe, etc. We are now getting some good players in the surrounding states- like John Marc Shelly from Memphis and Nick Flair from NOLA. What we are missing out on are the elite big state players- the ones we've gotten like CT and Frazier are guys that had MSU ties already. Like Rock Rucker for example.

Winning certainly helps- who wants to go play for a team that has had three straight losing seasons and is in rebuilding mode? The SR should help- fluke or not. And if we can get to the postseason again this year, that will help as well. We are starting to do what we need to do on the field, but we have to do the other things as well.

It's not one thing that gets those players- like only good facilities- but it's a combination of everything.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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Not only have we hit into 2 triple plays- we have hit at least 5 balls that have hit the fence

...I keep up with MSU baseball enough to know these things:


1) Every year we have to put up with whining about the immense dimensions of DNF, & how that is the reason our weakling hitters can never go yard.


2) About the time this argument heats up, some SEC team comes to DNF for a weekend series & transforms DNF into a band box.



If you think DNF should be 250 ft to right & left & 300 to dead center, then don't come here bitching when LSU or Florida shows up one weekend & hits 10 HR's over 3 games.
 

muddawgs33

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...I keep up with MSU baseball enough to know these things:
</span></div><div>If you did, then you would know our Home Run numbers are right on par with every other SEC team that plays in DNF. </div><div>
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</div>I'm not whining but I'm pretty damn sure it's a known fact that our ballpark hurts us just like it hurts our opponents on Home Runs. Now if other SEC teams were coming to DNF and smoking us on Home Runs hit in our own park, then your point would be valid. They aren't. DNF didn't hurt as much when the bats were still juiced but now that they have toned the bats down, the ball park is playing a huge role in not only our power numbers but every other team that comes to DNF to play.<div></div><div>
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If you think DNF should be 250 ft to right & left & 300 to dead center, then don't come here bitching when LSU or Florida shows up one weekend & hits 10 HR's over 3 games.
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</span></div><div><font face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 12px;">I don't ***** about our baseball team and I'm sure not bitching about bringing in the fences. I'm just stating that our ball park does hurt Home Run numbers by our players and our opponent's. You're dumbass likes to take a small sample size and then say see there DNF doesn't affect said team on Home Runs so it shouldn't affect ours...</span></font></div>