Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
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Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
Only other series losses are 2-1 to a solid UF squad and 2-1 @ a surging Vandy team. They have swept USC and taken 2/3 from LSU. 41 wins, 18 in conference.
If they're overrated, it's not by much. They absolutely deserve to host a regional - easily one of the top 16 in the country.
The better question is where do we end up in the final regular season poll?
Only other series losses are 2-1 to a solid UF squad and 2-1 @ a surging Vandy team. They have swept USC and taken 2/3 from LSU. 41 wins, 18 in conference.
If they're overrated, it's not by much. They absolutely deserve to host a regional - easily one of the top 16 in the country.
The better question is where do we end up in the final regular season poll?
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
You got to be a downer after we swept a series from a #5 rated team. I'm so sick of all the "well we won but we still can't hit" or "we won but that team was over rated". Crap a WIN is a WIN and they all count the same.
You got to be a downer after we swept a series from a #5 rated team. I'm so sick of all the "well we won but we still can't hit" or "we won but that team was over rated". Crap a WIN is a WIN and they all count the same.
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
..granted, we have knocked them out of hosting as a national seed.
But if you think UK's overall resume does not merit them hosting a regional, then let's just say you are not in the upper echelon of sixpackspeak.com intellectuals.
..granted, we have knocked them out of hosting as a national seed.
But if you think UK's overall resume does not merit them hosting a regional, then let's just say you are not in the upper echelon of sixpackspeak.com intellectuals.
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
Please take a week off from posting and then retire all together.
Big D said:
Please take a week off from posting and then retire all together.
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
This is a serious question: When the fans who always find fault with all things Mississippi State actually attend a game do they pull for the Dawgs or just sit there and wait for a poor coaching decision or for a player to make a mistake so they can bad mouth the coachs/players? For the life of me I can not see why anyone would waste there time complaining about something that obviously brings them so much anguish!
Vandelaydawg said:
This is a serious question: When the fans who always find fault with all things Mississippi State actually attend a game do they pull for the Dawgs or just sit there and wait for a poor coaching decision or for a player to make a mistake so they can bad mouth the coachs/players? For the life of me I can not see why anyone would waste there time complaining about something that obviously brings them so much anguish!
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
They certainly didn't finish strong, but there's nothing wrong with 18-12. Many years that will win you an SEC title. As it is this year, they finish one game back. But hell, when you start the season 24-0 or 24-1 whatever ridiculous start they had, you are guaranteed to have a slide. We haven't had an 18 or more SEC season since 97. I'd take Kentucky's record any day of the week.
They certainly didn't finish strong, but there's nothing wrong with 18-12. Many years that will win you an SEC title. As it is this year, they finish one game back. But hell, when you start the season 24-0 or 24-1 whatever ridiculous start they had, you are guaranteed to have a slide. We haven't had an 18 or more SEC season since 97. I'd take Kentucky's record any day of the week.
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
But I'm not sure a stretch like that really means you're cold if you're in the SEC. Could mean you just had a few bad breaks or went into a tough stretch of schedule.<div>
</div><div>Unless the other team is in a clear funk, I think you can generally assume that it's our pitching that's causing them to go "cold."</div>
But I'm not sure a stretch like that really means you're cold if you're in the SEC. Could mean you just had a few bad breaks or went into a tough stretch of schedule.<div>
</div><div>Unless the other team is in a clear funk, I think you can generally assume that it's our pitching that's causing them to go "cold."</div>
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
It would have been a legitimate question then to "ask" if MSU was over-rated after the first 20 games that year.
When MSU reached the Top 15 this year in basketball, do you think a lot of people thought we were "over-rated"?
I see nothing wrong with his asking. Based on some of the one run losses and one run wins we have had this year, our team could go either way in the post-season. At the same time there is no reason to think Ky hasn't met their "Waterloo" either though when they rolled into Starkville. And there is no doubt Napoleon was "over-rated".
It would have been a legitimate question then to "ask" if MSU was over-rated after the first 20 games that year.
When MSU reached the Top 15 this year in basketball, do you think a lot of people thought we were "over-rated"?
I see nothing wrong with his asking. Based on some of the one run losses and one run wins we have had this year, our team could go either way in the post-season. At the same time there is no reason to think Ky hasn't met their "Waterloo" either though when they rolled into Starkville. And there is no doubt Napoleon was "over-rated".
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
Kentucky's RPI dropped to 17 on the weekend. They are no longer an absolute lock to host. As of right now, they are on the right side of the bubble to host, but they are out of the conversation for a national seed unless they win the SEC tourney in dominant fashion, IMO.
We are back on the outside fringe of possibly hosting right now, after being positive that ship had sailed on Tuesday. If we beat Arky and LSU in the SEC tourney, and Kentucky goes down in two, there is a chance that they drop from hosting rank altogether, and Arky(75%) or us(25%) get their spot.
Kentucky's RPI dropped to 17 on the weekend. They are no longer an absolute lock to host. As of right now, they are on the right side of the bubble to host, but they are out of the conversation for a national seed unless they win the SEC tourney in dominant fashion, IMO.
We are back on the outside fringe of possibly hosting right now, after being positive that ship had sailed on Tuesday. If we beat Arky and LSU in the SEC tourney, and Kentucky goes down in two, there is a chance that they drop from hosting rank altogether, and Arky(75%) or us(25%) get their spot.
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
then blew it by getting swept by us. I think they have to win a couple of games in the tournament to host. It's not set in stone that 4 SEC teams will host. I could easily see UK, Ark, and us all going on the road, but if one does get in, I think Arkansas has as good a shot as Kentucky. I don't think an SEC team on the hosting bubble is going to get any favors from the selection committee. Per Boyd, SEC RPI's going into today are:
Florida - 2
LSU - 7
South Carolina - 9
Arkansas - 16
Kentucky - 20
Mississippi - 23
Mississippi State - 29
then blew it by getting swept by us. I think they have to win a couple of games in the tournament to host. It's not set in stone that 4 SEC teams will host. I could easily see UK, Ark, and us all going on the road, but if one does get in, I think Arkansas has as good a shot as Kentucky. I don't think an SEC team on the hosting bubble is going to get any favors from the selection committee. Per Boyd, SEC RPI's going into today are:
Florida - 2
LSU - 7
South Carolina - 9
Arkansas - 16
Kentucky - 20
Mississippi - 23
Mississippi State - 29
Not taking away from this weekend because our guys played their asses off but.....
2011
The SEC got 3 host sites, 7 bids total, with 5/30 RPI's of:
#1, 4, 6, 13, 19, 23, 30, 32, 36, and 38. 3 of those teams did not make it. The 3 national seeds were our only 3 host sites. Of course, it helps our long-term perception, because all 3 not only made Omaha, but did not lose a single game to a non-SEC team there, for a finish of #1, 2, and 3(t).
2010
The SEC got 4 host sites, 8 bids total, with 5/31 RPI's of:
#3, 7, 11, 13, 14, 15, 21, 22, 33, 42. 2 of those teams did not make it.
2009
The SEC got 3 host sites, 8 bids total, with 6/01 RPI's of:
#4, 5, 8, 10, 16, 20, 24, 31, 33, 44, 45. 3 of those teams did not make it.
2008
The SEC got 2 host sites, 9 bids total, with 6/02 RPI's of:
#6, 13, 19, 22, 28, 29, 34, 40, 44, 62. 1 of those teams did not make it.
All these number really tell us are that the committee doesn't much use the RPI deciding these factors. Clearly, being the "hot team" plays a role. It's prettymuch unanimous in the projection sites this season that the SEC gets 4 this year, but it wouldn't be a shock if we got fewer.
2011
The SEC got 3 host sites, 7 bids total, with 5/30 RPI's of:
#1, 4, 6, 13, 19, 23, 30, 32, 36, and 38. 3 of those teams did not make it. The 3 national seeds were our only 3 host sites. Of course, it helps our long-term perception, because all 3 not only made Omaha, but did not lose a single game to a non-SEC team there, for a finish of #1, 2, and 3(t).
2010
The SEC got 4 host sites, 8 bids total, with 5/31 RPI's of:
#3, 7, 11, 13, 14, 15, 21, 22, 33, 42. 2 of those teams did not make it.
2009
The SEC got 3 host sites, 8 bids total, with 6/01 RPI's of:
#4, 5, 8, 10, 16, 20, 24, 31, 33, 44, 45. 3 of those teams did not make it.
2008
The SEC got 2 host sites, 9 bids total, with 6/02 RPI's of:
#6, 13, 19, 22, 28, 29, 34, 40, 44, 62. 1 of those teams did not make it.
All these number really tell us are that the committee doesn't much use the RPI deciding these factors. Clearly, being the "hot team" plays a role. It's prettymuch unanimous in the projection sites this season that the SEC gets 4 this year, but it wouldn't be a shock if we got fewer.