He knew what was coming and knew his job would be tied to the Lemonis hire.
Now we know why Cohen bailed
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Cohen is and will always be HORRIBLE
LSU hired a proven cws winning coach, TAMU hire a proven cws winning coach. We didn't but won a natty. But it's becoming apparent he took a program that was steady and full of leadership and kept it there with those coaches recruits. Now that those guys are gone, he can't win for ****.
Worst Msstate baseball coach in history. I would say that he is the worst AD in history but we won a National championship and we had Lonnie Tinkle.
2 cents...it's early, but the continued errors and pitching from behind has more to do with coaching than talent. I'm no genius coach but my understanding was that our talent was a big upgrade from 2022. So that falls to coaching and leadership. 19 walks in 3 games is coaching. The freshmen pitched it well today. This early, let them prove they can't handle it. We certainly aren't
getting much from the upperclassmen. Again it's early.
IMO which means nothing.
LSU has a blank check book. Any coach would look good. Just like Coach O did in 2019.
AD‘s jobs aren’t tied to a sport that loses revenue. It’s always tied to football
When you build something like Dudy Noble and the lofts, it's tied to baseball too, especially if you're the guy that hired the coach.
Just give it time. Foxhall has proven he can 'fix' that.
If Arnett & Jans are successful the next decade and Selmon whiffs on a couple baseball hires, he’s not getting fired.
I was anti-Cohen but no athletic directors job should ever be tied to the baseball coach. Cohen’s last hires in football and men’s basketball were both very good which is what matters outside of fundraising, relationship building, and branding and of course those were his weaknesses
Leach was not a very good hire. He was average at best. The truth be told, he was one play away from losing his job in his last Egg Bowl.
Leach wasn't losing his job.
Agreed. Leach was not going anywhere. Still hurting over the loss of his unique personality. I also thought he got us back to a sense of toughness that is an MSU trait.
I agree with this. If we lose the EB things would’ve played out much differently in my opinion. I know it’s not in good taste to say anything negative regarding Leach given what transpired but things were not trending positively as people seem to believe.
Do you mean best?
Not even kidding. Without Cohen (and Byrne for getting him here), our baseball program goes extinct. He went farther than any other coach did. Finally got us another SEC title. Laid the foundation for the national title.
His AD work can be criticized, but his work as our baseball coach was pretty remarkable and I'll certainly always be appreciative of it. I personally wish he had stayed in that role, he probably would have won a title by now as well.
I would say so. Made it cws without him and with an interim coach. I would call that a pretty stable program
He was 2 plays away from a 9 win season in 2021 by that logic
Let's be fair. Recruiting doesn't show up immediately. Stands to reason that a lot of the instability would be rearing its head now.
I've not totally judged Lemonis yet, so don't try and label me as a Lemonsheep. Matter of fact, I'm a Lane Burroughs guy.
Cohen knew Lane would have 3 errors 4 games in, and that some highly regarded pitchers would underperform, leading us to lose 2 early non-con games, so he took the Auburn job?
No coach in the history of football has lost three Egg Bowls and been retained.
Leach wasn't losing his job.
I guess we'll just have to repeat this until you clowns give up.
Regarding Schloss at Aggy, he never did anything once he got to Omaha. And, Aggy is never know for their overachievements, so I’m wondering if he’ll be their Ron Polk. Always top 10 and never any hardware. I think he was basically ours to lose unless Cohen went full Cohen, and he sure did. However, I’m not sure Schloss would have ever sealed the deal here, either.
I like Lemonis, and I like his willingness to adapt when necessary. Never had a season with 50 games and 48 different lineups like the IB, either. He has even recruited very well. I think Foxhall will be the first to be dealt with if things don’t turn around. If things don’t change quickly after that, it’s gonna be hard to justify keeping Lemonis…
If going to the CWS means you are a stable program, what does winning the CWS say about the program?
We’ve been to the college World Series a lot, but only one coach has left with the trophy.
I believe Cohen bailed because the school's administration was getting more and more complaints about him AND Auburn's inexplicably offering him a job.
Remember Charlie Carr. He closed the ticket office on game day.
Cohen was just an arrogant ***, if you saw him & said hey coach…, he would just look at you & not say sh** … like how dare you nobody fan say anything to me
Real talk. I know we’re Mississippi State and baseball is our ride or die, but has a Division I athletic director ever gotten fired over a head baseball coach hire?
I feel like the answer is probably ‘no’ and in the unlikely event that it’s a ‘yes’, was it a Division I program with a football team?
I think if Cohen were still here and Lemonis got fired, he would probably get canned too. Lemonis would be the excuse but it would be a culmination of all the things Cohen is blamed for.
He wouldn't have gotten fired for Lemonis but for the combination of Lemonis, McCray, and Moorhead
Few things here:
1. That's not true. Wade Walker coached at Mississippi State for 6 seasons and here was his record against Ole Miss. Note the four consecutive losses:
| Year | Result |
| 1956 | Loss |
| 1957 | Tie |
| 1958 | Loss |
| 1959 | Loss |
| 1960 | Loss |
| 1961 | Loss |
2. Those "3rd consecutive Egg Bowl losses" generally came at the end of a sub-.500 season. Leach's wouldn't have:
1990: Felker 5-6
1986: Bellard 5-6
1951: Morton 4-5
In the history of the Egg Bowl, those are the only four Mississippi State coaches with three consecutive losses against Ole Miss.