NSIAP MSU Parking Garage Renderings
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Very nice looking but doesn't look all that big. And I can't tell exactly where it is -- can see the Chapel tower. Is this a real plan near term or well in the future? It's needed.
I think its the empty lot behind the Post Office and across from what was Suttle. In my day it was a fenced in power substation (many years ago)
From the Dale Partners site ...
Additional info that answers most of your questions ...
MSU Parking Garage / Mississippi State University / Starkville, MS - Our firm provided services for a design competition for a new parking garage at Mississippi State University. The new garage was planned to have 1,250 parking spaces and blend with the existing historic YMCA building on the campus. The estimated cost for the project is $25.0 million
Additional info that answers most of your questions ...
MSU Parking Garage / Mississippi State University / Starkville, MS - Our firm provided services for a design competition for a new parking garage at Mississippi State University. The new garage was planned to have 1,250 parking spaces and blend with the existing historic YMCA building on the campus. The estimated cost for the project is $25.0 million
A need for a parking garage on our campus has existed for 15 years. As long as it is done with taste (looks like it is), then I am all for it. Actaully, we need more than one.
Yes, probably several are needed. $25M seems awfully expensive for a parking garage though, regardless of how nice the exterior is. It's not like they're building an office building ....
BINGO. That building is suppose to add like 3 or so classrooms and Keenum's office. Whether its temporary I don't know, but Allen is suppose to be knocked down soon and I've heard from some Distinguished Scholars that's where he'll be relocated afterwards.
Just passing along what I heard from some guys who know Keenum pretty well. Regardless, the parking garage is indeed adding "office space" in the form of conference classrooms and junk.
That might be the plan eventually but I know they are moving to Lee Hall once the renovations are done there.
Whoa.. pump the brakes on that one...Allen is being demo'ed?
Coupla Qwerstions:
1. Are you sure?
2. Any chance they'll auction off the right to push the button?
Also.. I thought Belinda Stewart was drawing the parking garage. What happened there?
Coupla Qwerstions:
1. Are you sure?
2. Any chance they'll auction off the right to push the button?
Also.. I thought Belinda Stewart was drawing the parking garage. What happened there?
100% sure. They're basically turning it into a "park" with benches and a roundabout kind of thing, but not until they can replace the president's office, classrooms, and ITS and similar stuff. I don't expect that to happen for another 10+ years, but I also said that about the stadium so we'll see.
Mississippi has a gay *** law that doesn't allow explosions, so I'm not sure if bidding for the button would be worth it.
That's where he should be ... the most historic building on campus. And Allen also needs to be demolished since it's ugly and doesn't fit the established architectural style of the University.
I suppose since the new garage will have offices, a park, and such that $25M isn't too bad. But they could still build some less expensive outlying garages that are just garages, and have them somewhat convenient to the stadium and classrooms.
I suppose since the new garage will have offices, a park, and such that $25M isn't too bad. But they could still build some less expensive outlying garages that are just garages, and have them somewhat convenient to the stadium and classrooms.
We must be from the same era
I walked past the power substation every day, up the hill from Suttle. Now I'd be lucky to get halfway up the hill without sitting down to rest ....
Looks like it's going to be built into the side of the hill so the top is basically ground level just behind the PO.
I walked past the power substation every day, up the hill from Suttle. Now I'd be lucky to get halfway up the hill without sitting down to rest ....
Looks like it's going to be built into the side of the hill so the top is basically ground level just behind the PO.
parking garages these days are estimated around $20,000 per space
which is exactly what they did to come up with their $25M cost.
which is exactly what they did to come up with their $25M cost.
Actually,
according to the Campus Architect, the building will consist of 2 floors of parking on the bottom, with 3 floors of classrooms on top of that. Nothing else.
according to the Campus Architect, the building will consist of 2 floors of parking on the bottom, with 3 floors of classrooms on top of that. Nothing else.
I'm not sure... only because I was fairly close (I had some close connections) to the demolition planning of Suttle and implosion was on the table for a while. They decided against it because of cost, but I do know it was on the table.
I expect Allen will see the wrecking ball, though.
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It's getting rebricked. Should happen pretty soon. Basically they'll do what they just did to Bowen over Christmas but put bricks in that match every other building on campus. I don't know if you've been in there recently but they renovated the auditorium. The wheels are a'movin'.
They should have kept Bowen the same. I don't mind difference in architecture if it's not ugly. I thought Bowen had character.
I like that all the new structures (and renderings) lately has incorporated the DawgzillaTron shape? Uniformly clever, IMO.
Why was Suttle torn down? I lived in it the first semester it was opened (Room 926 as I recall) and it was really nice. I think this was around 1968. And I lived there at least two more semesters after that.
It was really nice, so now it's been torn down after only 35+ years of use, yet there are much older dorms still standing, like the boomerang dorms.
So why was it destroyed?
It was really nice, so now it's been torn down after only 35+ years of use, yet there are much older dorms still standing, like the boomerang dorms.
So why was it destroyed?
I can't remember which one Bowen is. It the one with the circular bays a couple buildings down the drill field from the Union? If that's it, I really like that building ... looks sharp. I like the new style they're going with too. But I'm with you ... don't ruin the old look.
Once we become homogeneous in architecture, we may become the new Harvard of the South. Or maybe the MIT of the South ....
Once we become homogeneous in architecture, we may become the new Harvard of the South. Or maybe the MIT of the South ....
I lived in suttle hall 2001-2002 school year, and it was terrible. By the way, the boomerang dorms are all gone too as of 6-7 years ago. I am not really sure what happened to Belinda Stewart, but this parking garage is top notch.
Bob Luke's dorms, although built for a shorter life span (10-15 years), looked good when they were completed, but started deteriorating faster than your near by apartment complex. All in all, Hull Hall is still going strong with some easy restoration and maintenance.
And yes to whoever said it, the Super Jumbo Tron design being used on everything will tie the campus together. We have used this arch motif like U of M uses the 4 columns. To each their own.
They did keep it the same but did do some much needed maintenance. They just remortered the building, and the process involves them removing each brick. I was just using that as an example because they would essentially do the same thing but replace the bricks in the process. Sounds complicated, but from them doing the entire Bowen in a couple months I don't think it will be a huge deal for them to do Dorman.
Alone, Bowen is the most beautiful building on campus in my opinion. It lost a ton of curb appeal with the side parking lot and the square ugly *** buildings they put beside it, but you can buy paintings of it that show it its original state and its just beautiful. Of course as a PS minor I'm partial...
Will they make improvements to the facade on Dorman to make it more interesting or are they just replacing the brick?
3 of the 4 boomerangs were already gone when I arrived on campus to make way for Northeast Village (Hurst is now where Hightower was, etc, Building 3 is about where smith/duggar was). Critz is the only boomerang left.
Suttle was torn down, really because of relatively poor upkeep and aging equipment, and new trends for dorms. I lived in Suttle the last year it was open and it was really a ghost town. McKee was undoubtedly my favorite dorm experience on campus. We had a blast, stayed up all hours of the night playing games and watching tv, and doing stupid ****.
Northeast village now contains buildings that are built from mostly wood, drywall, and carpet and each room has it's own bathroom. I lived in Hurst for a year and, aside from the nice room, hated it. Didn't know a single person on my floor. People talk years later about the shenanigans and crazy **** they did in seemingly indestructable dorms made of cinder block and concrete, not about how nice the rooms were or how convenient the bathrooms were. Also, a roommate can dirty up a bathroom just as much as an entire floor can.
For you guys (and gals) who have kids looking at colleges, heed my advice. Convince the hell out of them that living in one of the new dorms is nowhere near worth the experience in living in an older one. McKee, Hull, and Evans were the best dorms on campus during my time there, and NOT because they were nice. People knew eachother and made lifelong friends, we would hang out and play cards, video games, and watch tv in the lobby, and overall, it is one of the BEST experiences of my time in college. The new ones will never hold a candle to that kind of experience, no matter how nice they are.
Suttle was torn down, really because of relatively poor upkeep and aging equipment, and new trends for dorms. I lived in Suttle the last year it was open and it was really a ghost town. McKee was undoubtedly my favorite dorm experience on campus. We had a blast, stayed up all hours of the night playing games and watching tv, and doing stupid ****.
Northeast village now contains buildings that are built from mostly wood, drywall, and carpet and each room has it's own bathroom. I lived in Hurst for a year and, aside from the nice room, hated it. Didn't know a single person on my floor. People talk years later about the shenanigans and crazy **** they did in seemingly indestructable dorms made of cinder block and concrete, not about how nice the rooms were or how convenient the bathrooms were. Also, a roommate can dirty up a bathroom just as much as an entire floor can.
For you guys (and gals) who have kids looking at colleges, heed my advice. Convince the hell out of them that living in one of the new dorms is nowhere near worth the experience in living in an older one. McKee, Hull, and Evans were the best dorms on campus during my time there, and NOT because they were nice. People knew eachother and made lifelong friends, we would hang out and play cards, video games, and watch tv in the lobby, and overall, it is one of the BEST experiences of my time in college. The new ones will never hold a candle to that kind of experience, no matter how nice they are.
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Critz is still there. It's the one that had been renovated and used to have some sorority girls living in it. All of the others are gone now. I lived in Duggar the last year that it had students (02-03), with one wing having freshmen and the other international students. The year after that it and Hightower were closed (we joked that they were condemned) and then they were torn down the next year to make way for the construction of Ruby Hall, the first of the newer-style dorms.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rice Hall is now the oldest (1968).
Also Bowen is a nice building but it can't compare to the impressiveness of Twin Towers. Too bad that awful metal extension to Simrall is located right in front of it.
Actually Rice is relatively new compared to some of the others. Rice was built in 1968 the year after Suttle and Evans were both built. McKee and Sessums were built in the mid-50s, as were Cresswell and Hathorn (I think).
The oldest is Herbert (they were using it as a dorm a few years ago) followed by Hull, both built in the 20s.
Bowen is located on Hardy between Patterson Eng & Simrall EE buildings and catty
-cornered behind the library. Sad to say I haven't been on campus in 20 years but still remember most of the buildings. Stayed in Critz as a first semester freshmen and though it was a dump (without air-condition I might add) but I had some pretty fun times. Spent most of my years at State living in Starkvegas not dorms. Freedom was great.
-cornered behind the library. Sad to say I haven't been on campus in 20 years but still remember most of the buildings. Stayed in Critz as a first semester freshmen and though it was a dump (without air-condition I might add) but I had some pretty fun times. Spent most of my years at State living in Starkvegas not dorms. Freedom was great.
Thanks. I remember it now, but don't think I've ever been in it. The one I was thinking of is Montgomery Hall. I googled and found a part of the MSU website that has historic buildings on it.
I was also in Critz, so we may have been there about the same time. I was there the Fall of 1965-Spring 1966. I liked the freedom too but couldn't afford to live off-campus.
I was also in Critz, so we may have been there about the same time. I was there the Fall of 1965-Spring 1966. I liked the freedom too but couldn't afford to live off-campus.
You're right about the social aspect of the older dorms, but I suppose the newer style is to emulate apartment complexes which is what a lot of the students were moving into when they left campus. When I was there, there were no complexes as such in Starkville; some people rented apartments, but they were generally part of private residences or just rented entire houses.
The newer ones offer more privacy (no public bathrooms and showers), are quieter, and therefore more amenable for studying. But it's harder to get to know your neighbors. When I was in Critz and Sessums, we knew everybody. In Hamlin and Suttle, you only knew your suite-mates, and sometimes didn't know them all that well.
The newer ones offer more privacy (no public bathrooms and showers), are quieter, and therefore more amenable for studying. But it's harder to get to know your neighbors. When I was in Critz and Sessums, we knew everybody. In Hamlin and Suttle, you only knew your suite-mates, and sometimes didn't know them all that well.
In the 50s and early 60s, Magruder Hall was the one and only girls' dorm. About that time, more females started attending MSU so Cresswell was built, and then shortly after that, Rice.
It's amazing how much the University has changed since I was a student. I didn't go back from the time I graduated in 1970 until 1995 and I hardly recognized the place. And there's been a tremendous amount of change since the 90s, and most of it is for the better.
It's amazing how much the University has changed since I was a student. I didn't go back from the time I graduated in 1970 until 1995 and I hardly recognized the place. And there's been a tremendous amount of change since the 90s, and most of it is for the better.